WALCOTT - which position is best etc?

[Cockerill's chin]

While we are in the mad mood, lets charge the supporters almost 2k for a season ticket and pay the manager 7.5 million. Oh hang on...

We need to start competing which means loosing the expensive deadwood from the squad and keeping valuable players like Walcott. We are market leaders when it comes to overcharging supporters and overpaying an unambitious manager and many of his dross journeymen.

When it comes to paying the going rate for valuable players we dig in our heels. If he goes it will be as big as mistake as Ashley's 5k swerve off the road.

[markyp]

reading the papers today it seems like the rest of the squad are desperate for him to stay,if he goes team morale will be massively low not just supporter morale,we need Theo on and off the pitch to keep a unfied dressing room it seems

[QuartzGooner]

Pace is his greatest asset and between 23-27 he will have the best pace.

I think he will probably lose a touch of pace.
As he has put on bit more upper body weight from age 21+, he will lose a little bit of pace unless he is doing specialist sprint training.

Dedicated 100m sprinters tend to improve through their 20's because they are getting technically better, and their increased muscle mass is planned for muscles involved in sprinting.

He will now be entering his best years so he wants a good contract now to coincide with that.

Agree.
He has improved because his football skills and strike consistency have improved.

[augie]

reading the papers today it seems like the rest of the squad are desperate for him to stay,if he goes team morale will be massively low not just supporter morale,we need Theo on and off the pitch to keep a unfied dressing room it seems

Being popular shouldnt be a factor here buddy. Can I also say that if I am a player in that dressing room then the departures of cesc and rvp will hit me and my morale far harder than the departure of walnut (if he ends up leaving which I doubt) unless you are talking from a friendship point of view and I for one dont give a flying fcuk about what friendships are broken or not

[markyp]

reading the papers today it seems like the rest of the squad are desperate for him to stay,if he goes team morale will be massively low not just supporter morale,we need Theo on and off the pitch to keep a unfied dressing room it seems

Being popular shouldnt be a factor here buddy. Can I also say that if I am a player in that dressing room then the departures of cesc and rvp will hit me and my morale far harder than the departure of walnut (if he ends up leaving which I doubt) unless you are talking from a friendship point of view and I for one dont give a flying fcuk about what friendships are broken or not

my point was that rvp and cesc although big kicks in the balls we have managed to move on,wally leaving would make life at arsenal a bit pointless,if we cant keep anybody at all why bother joining if you are a star player,then how long till santi and jack go?i think walcott staying may just(just) stop the trend of us being a massive selling club??

[augie]

reading the papers today it seems like the rest of the squad are desperate for him to stay,if he goes team morale will be massively low not just supporter morale,we need Theo on and off the pitch to keep a unfied dressing room it seems

Being popular shouldnt be a factor here buddy. Can I also say that if I am a player in that dressing room then the departures of cesc and rvp will hit me and my morale far harder than the departure of walnut (if he ends up leaving which I doubt) unless you are talking from a friendship point of view and I for one dont give a flying fcuk about what friendships are broken or not

my point was that rvp and cesc although big kicks in the balls we have managed to move on,wally leaving would make life at arsenal a bit pointless,if we cant keep anybody at all why bother joining if you are a star player,then how long till santi and jack go?i think walcott staying may just(just) stop the trend of us being a massive selling club??

I take your point but what I am saying is that nowhere outside england is walnut considered a "star player" so I dont really think that it will have the same negative effect on our rep abroad as the departures of cesc and rvp did. I know that some people will disagree with that assessment but I will point to the fact that to date not one continental club is being linked with a move for walnut despite the fact that they alone can make an approach from tomorrow cos english clubs cannot do so until the end of his season (unless the rules have changed). I suspect that most european based clubs would have reservations about his level of technique but in egland pace is king which is why his value is higher over here. Anyway I kinda digressed there ( ) but my bottom line is that I feel that losing sagna will have a bigger effect on how our club is perceived abroad than losing wally and cos we do most of our buying from abroad then it will damager us more

[I still Exiled-Gooner]

In two minds about this one but one of the problems is one of Arsenal's own makings in the way there pay players.What other clubs RESERVE players can afford a £250,000 car i:e J.E.T,what other club pays it's average and reserve players in the region of £50,000+( well reserves not as much but a damned good salary anyway) that is one the problems there when Arshavin who is on £75,000+ and doesn't get a sniff it's human nature that you want more if you playing regular??! is it not.

I also believe it's down to consistency,previous he being doing a Diaby-1good game then a number of nothing-so what do you base his so called demands on £100,000pw on,he also been injury prone as Quartz says he had trouble with his shoulder which has been sorted but what of a recurrence?.I feel abit of Deja vu here...last year of contract start to show great quality brings to mind Flamini,RVP and now Theo...makes me suspicious Admittedly he's been exceptional this season so far but whose to say it would continue if he's gets the contract he desires,if i can steal a AKB's response'' be careful what you wish for''.

So far in his career at the Arsenal it hasn't been great and only shown what if and what could be so what we basing this all on is ''he could'' or ''he can'' not he will and also for what,if media to have us believe,he wants who will accommodate him?as the other top clubs in the P/L won't or can't so it's abroad as far as i can see or stay with us.The pro for him signing is that we still have attacking option,finally show that this club can show ambition and willing to compete on wages.No,I have to be neutral on this one as in the past we given in and been shafted(greedywhore)or called there bluff and also shafted.......

[hugh jardon]

I am gobsmacked that people who have been lamenting one of the worst, slowest and goal-shy Arsenal teams in recent history are still arguing that Walcott should be allowed to go!

A 23 year old lightening quick England international with 30 England caps and 47 appearances in the Champions League. He already has made 240 appearances for Arsenal scoring 56 goals!

When he leaves I will wish him every success as since this contract farce has begun he has always indicated he wants to stay, kept his head down and delivered his best football and goal scoring since joining the club. His only "crime" is expecting to be fairly rewarded for his ability.

However I will hold this against the club forever - yet another reason to not pay the extortionate ticket prices they charge. Cheapest Cat A ticket £62 (plus membership and booking fees) to watch Walcott scoring for Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea against us next season? No thanks Arsenal.

I go to football in the hope of seeing goals - who is gonna score the goals when he is gone?

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I am gobsmacked that people who have been lamenting one of the worst, slowest and goal-shy Arsenal teams in recent history are still arguing that Walcott should be allowed to go!

A 23 year old lightening quick England international with 30 England caps and 47 appearances in the Champions League. He already has made 240 appearances for Arsenal scoring 56 goals!

When he leaves I will wish him every success as since this contract farce has begun he has always indicated he wants to stay, kept his head down and delivered his best football and goal scoring since joining the club. His only "crime" is expecting to be fairly rewarded for his ability.

However I will hold this against the club forever - yet another reason to not pay the extortionate ticket prices they charge. Cheapest Cat A ticket £62 (plus membership and booking fees) to watch Walcott scoring for Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea against us next season? No thanks Arsenal.

I go to football in the hope of seeing goals - who is gonna score the goals when he is gone?

I agree with most of what you say but Arsenal have scored 39 goals in 19 games (took us 23 games to get this tally last season with rvp, courtesy of arseblog) so we aren't exactly goal shy.........and yes to my shame I read arseblog from time to time

And before anyone mentions it Yes we have scored a lot of our goals against dross but half way is half way

[mcdowell42]

The thing is people moan hes only scored against teams near the bottom of the league yet if he didnt score against these teams people would still be moaning.At the min hes our topscorer,im with augie offer him 80k a week and then give him bonus incentives for reaching certain targets if its apparently not about the money he should be happy with that.

[hugh jardon]

My point is at the moment Walcott is one of the few players who gives me motivation to pay my money to go to games despite the rest of the dross in the squad. Walcott's goals give me a reason to go and some hope of an Arsenal win.

Once he goes will I be as keen to pay to see Gervinho or Chamack play up front? No, of course not.

[northbank123]

I am gobsmacked that people who have been lamenting one of the worst, slowest and goal-shy Arsenal teams in recent history are still arguing that Walcott should be allowed to go!

A 23 year old lightening quick England international with 30 England caps and 47 appearances in the Champions League. He already has made 240 appearances for Arsenal scoring 56 goals!

When he leaves I will wish him every success as since this contract farce has begun he has always indicated he wants to stay, kept his head down and delivered his best football and goal scoring since joining the club. His only "crime" is expecting to be fairly rewarded for his ability.

However I will hold this against the club forever - yet another reason to not pay the extortionate ticket prices they charge. Cheapest Cat A ticket £62 (plus membership and booking fees) to watch Walcott scoring for Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea against us next season? No thanks Arsenal.

I go to football in the hope of seeing goals - who is gonna score the goals when he is gone?

I agree with most of what you say but Arsenal have scored 39 goals in 19 games (took us 23 games to get this tally last season with rvp, courtesy of arseblog) so we aren't exactly goal shy.........and yes to my shame I read arseblog from time to time

And before anyone mentions it Yes we have scored a lot of our goals against dross but half way is half way

Despite the overall statistic I think we are still somewhat goal-shy. We have scored quite a lot overall but 23 of those came in 4 games. In 11 of those 19 games we've scored 0 or 1 goals, which isn't good enough for a team that leaks goals like we do.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I am gobsmacked that people who have been lamenting one of the worst, slowest and goal-shy Arsenal teams in recent history are still arguing that Walcott should be allowed to go!

A 23 year old lightening quick England international with 30 England caps and 47 appearances in the Champions League. He already has made 240 appearances for Arsenal scoring 56 goals!

When he leaves I will wish him every success as since this contract farce has begun he has always indicated he wants to stay, kept his head down and delivered his best football and goal scoring since joining the club. His only "crime" is expecting to be fairly rewarded for his ability.

However I will hold this against the club forever - yet another reason to not pay the extortionate ticket prices they charge. Cheapest Cat A ticket £62 (plus membership and booking fees) to watch Walcott scoring for Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea against us next season? No thanks Arsenal.

I go to football in the hope of seeing goals - who is gonna score the goals when he is gone?

I agree with most of what you say but Arsenal have scored 39 goals in 19 games (took us 23 games to get this tally last season with rvp, courtesy of arseblog) so we aren't exactly goal shy.........and yes to my shame I read arseblog from time to time

And before anyone mentions it Yes we have scored a lot of our goals against dross but half way is half way

Despite the overall statistic I think we are still somewhat goal-shy. We have scored quite a lot overall but 23 of those came in 4 games. In 11 of those 19 games we've scored 0 or 1 goals, which isn't good enough for a team that leaks goals like we do.

You know the bit I wrote ""and before anyone mentions it"!!!!! Theres always one *word censored* that never lets you down, and you sir are the winner

[North-Bank-1987]

My point is at the moment Walcott is one of the few players who gives me motivation to pay my money to go to games despite the rest of the dross in the squad. Walcott's goals give me a reason to go and some hope of an Arsenal win.

Once he goes will I be as keen to pay to see Gervinho or Chamack play up front? No, of course not.

I have to agree with you here atm, he looks hungry through the centre and with Jack behind I think it looks good.

Red Wumber would be lapping this up

[northbank123]

I am gobsmacked that people who have been lamenting one of the worst, slowest and goal-shy Arsenal teams in recent history are still arguing that Walcott should be allowed to go!

A 23 year old lightening quick England international with 30 England caps and 47 appearances in the Champions League. He already has made 240 appearances for Arsenal scoring 56 goals!

When he leaves I will wish him every success as since this contract farce has begun he has always indicated he wants to stay, kept his head down and delivered his best football and goal scoring since joining the club. His only "crime" is expecting to be fairly rewarded for his ability.

However I will hold this against the club forever - yet another reason to not pay the extortionate ticket prices they charge. Cheapest Cat A ticket £62 (plus membership and booking fees) to watch Walcott scoring for Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea against us next season? No thanks Arsenal.

I go to football in the hope of seeing goals - who is gonna score the goals when he is gone?

I agree with most of what you say but Arsenal have scored 39 goals in 19 games (took us 23 games to get this tally last season with rvp, courtesy of arseblog) so we aren't exactly goal shy.........and yes to my shame I read arseblog from time to time

And before anyone mentions it Yes we have scored a lot of our goals against dross but half way is half way

Despite the overall statistic I think we are still somewhat goal-shy. We have scored quite a lot overall but 23 of those came in 4 games. In 11 of those 19 games we've scored 0 or 1 goals, which isn't good enough for a team that leaks goals like we do.

You know the bit I wrote ""and before anyone mentions it"!!!!! Theres always one *word censored* that never lets you down, and you sir are the winner

Haha. It's a slightly different point really, it's not that we've scored the majority of them against shit sides, it's that we've scored most of them in very few games regardless of the opposition. If we score 0 or 1 goals against anybody chances are we'll end up with 1 or quite possibly 0 points.