As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
I think you need to adapt. You can have an idea of a system, but you need to be able to transform it depending on the players you have – how much pace you have up front, how technical your team is, what types of risk you can take and whether your players are ready to take those risks. It’s important to analyse your players because you can’t always play the same way. There have to be different details and changes in how you approach things, and you have to look at how you can hurt whoever you are playing against. Is there something they don’t like to do? If so, we’re going to make them do plenty of it.
At least he doesn't seem like a complete Wenger disciple as a potential manager.
Henry would be just as bad. Much better player but like so many quality ex-players who think that they’re entitled to a top managerial job he is more interested in sitting next to Jamie Redknapp on tv than actually learning his craft day in day out. Pissing around part-time with Belgium when there’s no Sky work. Whilst outstanding he was also pretty fucking petulant but that’s not really the issue.
The club will make sure Arteta doesn't bomb out. Top 4 finish and a domestic trophy is the maximum this board want from the team. We supporters have a higher expectation.
We have the players to achieve both targets. Now it's down to the coaching. Arteta, Cazorla, and Alonso would've been a title winning midfield. If the rumours are true and they form the coaching staff, that could well be a dynamic backroom staff.
The club will make sure Arteta doesn't bomb out. Top 4 finish and a domestic trophy is the maximum this board want from the team. We supporters have a higher expectation.
We have the players to achieve both targets. Now it's down to the coaching. Arteta, Cazorla, and Alonso would've been a title winning midfield. If the rumours are true and they form the coaching staff, that could well be a dynamic backroom staff.
Title winning midfield? Alonso (assuming Xabi) was a very good player but Cazorla was not a top level player and Arteta even further behind.
The club will make sure Arteta doesn't bomb out. Top 4 finish and a domestic trophy is the maximum this board want from the team. We supporters have a higher expectation.
We have the players to achieve both targets. Now it's down to the coaching. Arteta, Cazorla, and Alonso would've been a title winning midfield. If the rumours are true and they form the coaching staff, that could well be a dynamic backroom staff.
Title winning midfield? Alonso (assuming Xabi) was a very good player but Cazorla was not a top level player and Arteta even further behind.
Yes, title winning. The 3 of the together would've given a perfectly balanced midfield 3. All be it, a short in height midfield but a title winning one.
The club will make sure Arteta doesn't bomb out. Top 4 finish and a domestic trophy is the maximum this board want from the team. We supporters have a higher expectation.
We have the players to achieve both targets. Now it's down to the coaching. Arteta, Cazorla, and Alonso would've been a title winning midfield. If the rumours are true and they form the coaching staff, that could well be a dynamic backroom staff.
Title winning midfield? Alonso (assuming Xabi) was a very good player but Cazorla was not a top level player and Arteta even further behind.
Yes, title winning. The 3 of the together would've given a perfectly balanced midfield 3. All be it, a short in height midfield but a title winning one.
Which of those three is gonna bring the power and physical side to the midfield ?
That is a fifa playstation midfield that would get thrown around like ragdolls in the real world
I think most gooners now would take TH14 over Arteta as things stand with PV4 seeming like it’s not even close to happening. If he did nothing else at least he (TH14) knows what Arsenal is all about and would kick the likes of Bellerin up the backside. Arteta wouldn’t say boo to a goose.
As usual the process is like a slow death with Arsenal, it’s almost like just get it done ffs.
If Arteta is picked I will support him, but if he fucks up my attention will firmly move onto the owners. I can’t help feeling down the years Kroenke and Gazidis have got away with murder. In Wengers last game Chips Keswick and Kroenke when he appeared on the screen where roundly boo’d.
Personally, I'd much prefer we went for Arteta over Henry.
Henry's career path over the last 4 years suggests he's not really taking management that seriously (and his Sky performances aren't that convincing either) whereas you get the feeling Arteta, highly regarded by Guardiola, is more focussed on becoming a manager and is therefore a much better gamble.
Of course, ideally, I'd rather we went with someone with experience of successfully managing a club, but it's looking like we're not heading in that direction.
I think most gooners now would take TH14 over Arteta as things stand with PV4 seeming like it’s not even close to happening. If he did nothing else at least he (TH14) knows what Arsenal is all about and would kick the likes of Bellerin up the backside. Arteta wouldn’t say boo to a goose.
As usual the process is like a slow death with Arsenal, it’s almost like just get it done ffs.
If Arteta is picked I will support him, but if he fucks up my attention will firmly move onto the owners. I can’t help feeling down the years Kroenke and Gazidis have got away with murder. In Wengers last game Chips Keswick and Kroenke when he appeared on the screen where roundly boo’d.
Personally, I'd much prefer we went for Arteta over Henry.
Henry's career path over the last 4 years suggests he's not really taking management that seriously (and his Sky performances aren't that convincing either) whereas you get the feeling Arteta, highly regarded by Guardiola, is more focussed on becoming a manager and is therefore a much better gamble.
Of course, ideally, I'd rather we went with someone with experience of successfully managing a club, but it's looking like we're not heading in that direction.
Arteta would just be a younger version of Wenger imo. Im not convinced he could handle the job.
Even if TH14 doesn't have the tactical nouse of some of the rival managers in the PL, at least he would tell the slackers whats what, and as a foundation this is something we need to do before we can move forward ie totally change the mindset of the team.
Henry would also create a feel good factor around the club, certainly to start with. Hell, we need our fans now to stick together and support the team, rather than fight each other.
people forget that Bolton played some good football under him with Djorkaeff, Jay Jay Okacha, Hierra, Campo, N'Gotty and Wilshire.
plus they were organized and hard to beat. he had our number - we won just 4 out of 12 games against them.
Plus it would be a massive fuck you to Wonga too
Owen coyle was in charge at Bolton when wilshere was on loan there and we did beat Bolton twice in the fa cup in addition to those 4 league wins v Bolton under allerdyce
Allegri, Conte, Ancelotti etc = former great big club trying to restore it's reputation and hit the big time
Arteta = pointless greedy, cheap hipster club aiming for 4th
Next appointment will define Arsenal for the rest of the Kreonke's reign.
Allegri, Conte, Ancelotti etc = former great big club trying to restore it's reputation and hit the big time
Arteta = pointless greedy, cheap hipster club aiming for 4th
Next appointment will define Arsenal for the rest of the Kreonke's reign.
Not for one second am I absolving kroenke of any blame here, but I would say it will define Arsenal for the rest of gazidas's reign cos he is the one at the sharp end, and it is generally accepted it is him that he pushing for arteta to get the job
I think most gooners now would take TH14 over Arteta as things stand with PV4 seeming like it’s not even close to happening. If he did nothing else at least he (TH14) knows what Arsenal is all about and would kick the likes of Bellerin up the backside. Arteta wouldn’t say boo to a goose.
As usual the process is like a slow death with Arsenal, it’s almost like just get it done ffs.
If Arteta is picked I will support him, but if he fucks up my attention will firmly move onto the owners. I can’t help feeling down the years Kroenke and Gazidis have got away with murder. In Wengers last game Chips Keswick and Kroenke when he appeared on the screen where roundly boo’d.
Personally, I'd much prefer we went for Arteta over Henry.
Henry's career path over the last 4 years suggests he's not really taking management that seriously (and his Sky performances aren't that convincing either) whereas you get the feeling Arteta, highly regarded by Guardiola, is more focussed on becoming a manager and is therefore a much better gamble.
Of course, ideally, I'd rather we went with someone with experience of successfully managing a club, but it's looking like we're not heading in that direction.
Arteta would just be a younger version of Wenger imo. Im not convinced he could handle the job.
Even if TH14 doesn't have the tactical nouse of some of the rival managers in the PL, at least he would tell the slackers whats what, and as a foundation this is something we need to do before we can move forward ie totally change the mindset of the team.
Henry would also create a feel good factor around the club, certainly to start with. Hell, we need our fans now to stick together and support the team, rather than fight each other.
And what makes you think Arteta wouldn't kick the slackers into shape? For the last 2 years he's been coaching under a manager who certainly won't tolerate any slackers, so why is it assumed that Arteta would?
As much as we all love Henry, he's too much of an arrogant diva for the role. I'd take Arteta over him.
if the rumour about Xabi Alonso is true, thats good as he always struck me as an intelligent player.
Remember when Wanker could have signed him but had to be a complete *word censored* over £250,000 and we ended up with Alex Song and Denilson instead? At this rate, Ronaldo, Drogba, Kluivert, De Boer, Messi and Kaka will all end up on the coaching staff by 2030.
Who's the better coach was not the point i'm making to be honest, and in all honesty none of can say who would or wouldn't be better we can only speculate. The point i was making was in regards to who players might be more attracted to as a potential manager, TH and PV had big reputations, were internationals and had the skill to back things up as players, MA not so much.
Now as a player who would you be more attracted to playing for? Me personally of the 3 it would be PV, then TH then MA. PV was a leader as a player, has much more experience as a coach and also has a small amount of true managerial experience even if it is only in the MLS. TH was one hell of a player, had a good work ethic most of the time and has about the same overall coaching experience as MA if somewhat diluted. MA has experience and is reported as a very good coach by the same guy who is willing to let him go to one of his rivals, that worries me a little.
But in terms of pulling power MA would definitely lag behind the other two, that may be mitigated by the new structure at Arsenal but then that same structure would also boost the other two.
