phew, just the two mths out thenDUFFMAN wrote: Van marwotsit says it's not serious. Ssn
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Its been confirmed lads, hes got a dead leg.
So theyve sent him to bunk with Kauto Star so hes fit for saturday ...
So theyve sent him to bunk with Kauto Star so hes fit for saturday ...
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Yeah. I think someone is being unecessarily pedantic.Number 5 wrote:Not true.DB10GOONER wrote:I think the point is though that while a striker that hits 20+ PL goals a season doesn't guarantee the title, you simply cannot win the title without one.Number 5 wrote:Adebayor plundered well over 20 goals back in 08 and we came where in the league that year. Wrighty used to bang in 30+ a season and the year he got a title medal? It was about 10. Torres scored a shit load for Liverpool and where are his title medals?mikeyb772001 wrote:Without doubt RVP is arsenal through and through he loves the club and loves the fans. But again I keep saying it there is no room for sentiment!
If he was fit all season he would be the best striker in the prem and possibly for his position in the world. I couldn’t think of anyone better.
But never scored more than 11 league goals since 2004????????
This is alarming
If we had an average striker or even a dare I say it Bent , Defoe, Kevin Davies all 3 would of scored more than 11 league goals in 1 season.
We probably would of won the league.
These are just examples but the point remains the same. RVP for 11 goals and half a season or a striker that gets you 20+ goals and a whole season?
His injury history is very bad and if he carries on he will be in a wheel chair the time 2014 world cup arrives.
If it were me I would keep offer him a reduced contract or a pay as you go bonus.
You really think other teams will give us good money for a half season striker
Netiher half a season of RvP or a 20+ goal striker gives you a better shot at success. That comes from the state of the rest of the team, particularly defence.
Of coure he has to be added to a strong defence, top notch keeper and a creative and combative midfield that supplies and scores goals as well as dominating the middle of the pitch box to box.
Man Utd won the league in 08/09, Ronaldo top scored with 18. In 06/07 when Ronaldo scored 17.
Chelsea 05/06, Lampard 16.
That’s three recent seasons where the team who won the league did so with a top scorer chipping in less than 20.
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17 or 18 or 20. It's in that ball park though isn't it? It's certainly not 11 or less. And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.

Next. Muthafuckah.


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That would be fine but he isn't our 'second striker' - he's our main one.FrenchGun wrote:I can see were you're coming from. But I wouldn't want more from our 2nd striker. Let's not forget initially Wenger bought RVP as a replacement for DB10, and so far he's done ok in this role, despite his injury record...mikeyb772001 wrote:I don’t really like stats to be honest.
However the fact he has never scored more than 11 league goals is not good
This is the only stat I care about because the EPL is the only trophy I care about
The rest I can do without including the devil cup (CL)
I want more from a striker than 11 goals and that is at best
04 – 5
05 – 5
06 – 11
07 – 7
08 – 11
09 – 9
10 -11
7 seasons = 59 goals
Hence why he should quit international football

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And THAT is the point.I Hate Hleb wrote:That would be fine but he isn't our 'second striker' - he's our main one.FrenchGun wrote:I can see were you're coming from. But I wouldn't want more from our 2nd striker. Let's not forget initially Wenger bought RVP as a replacement for DB10, and so far he's done ok in this role, despite his injury record...mikeyb772001 wrote:I don’t really like stats to be honest.
However the fact he has never scored more than 11 league goals is not good
This is the only stat I care about because the EPL is the only trophy I care about
The rest I can do without including the devil cup (CL)
I want more from a striker than 11 goals and that is at best
04 – 5
05 – 5
06 – 11
07 – 7
08 – 11
09 – 9
10 -11
7 seasons = 59 goals
Hence why he should quit international football
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and while RvP is our striker, we won't be getting any better than Bendtner as a back-up - and with chocolate leg's injury record, that means a lot of playing time for another striker.
I like van Persie, and his class and passion for the club - but weighed against his actual effectiveness over a season, and the fact he is so important to be fit because of the alternatives, I would get rid of him - unless a similar quality striker was brought in as well, then you can keep him and get rid of Pelendter.
I like van Persie, and his class and passion for the club - but weighed against his actual effectiveness over a season, and the fact he is so important to be fit because of the alternatives, I would get rid of him - unless a similar quality striker was brought in as well, then you can keep him and get rid of Pelendter.
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No that’s just where I stopped looking. I thought 3 recent seasons was enough to back up my point. But if you want me to pull your pants down in front of the whole forum again, I’m happy to do so Mr 10 and will keep researching.DB10GOONER wrote:And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.

Onto a totally serious note. I did notice in those 20+ goalless seasons there was also another player in the team who got into double figures. I think this is a very key point. When not if VP get to 15 goals this year

So I say sell Bendtner and Vela, use that money plus a bit from the kitty to give us VP, Chamakh +1 to score the goals needed between them.

Yes but that's Wenger's fault, not RVP! He's never played a full season since he joined 7 years ago, so there's no big surprise there! But we end up blaming RVP and questionning his commitment for playing international games and getting injuried!DB10GOONER wrote:And THAT is the point.I Hate Hleb wrote:That would be fine but he isn't our 'second striker' - he's our main one.FrenchGun wrote:I can see were you're coming from. But I wouldn't want more from our 2nd striker. Let's not forget initially Wenger bought RVP as a replacement for DB10, and so far he's done ok in this role, despite his injury record...mikeyb772001 wrote:I don’t really like stats to be honest.
However the fact he has never scored more than 11 league goals is not good
This is the only stat I care about because the EPL is the only trophy I care about
The rest I can do without including the devil cup (CL)
I want more from a striker than 11 goals and that is at best
04 – 5
05 – 5
06 – 11
07 – 7
08 – 11
09 – 9
10 -11
7 seasons = 59 goals
Hence why he should quit international football
And some are suggesting RVP should stop international carreer, fuck off back to holland, or be sold asap! Why should RVP be the one held responsible for Wenger's mistakes??!!
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No that’s just where I stopped looking. I thought 3 recent seasons was enough to back up my point. But if you want me to pull your pants down in front of the whole forum again, I’m happy to do so Mr 10 and will keep researching.DB10GOONER wrote:And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.![]()
Like that time at the fans game when in front of everyone you had to hand over the £20 RVP bet I won? You mean like that time huh? Yep. You sure showed me!


I could defend RVP all day but never would I bet my money on his fitness!DB10GOONER wrote:Number 5 wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Yeah. I think someone is being unecessarily pedantic.![]()
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No that’s just where I stopped looking. I thought 3 recent seasons was enough to back up my point. But if you want me to pull your pants down in front of the whole forum again, I’m happy to do so Mr 10 and will keep researching.DB10GOONER wrote:And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.![]()
Like that time at the fans game when in front of everyone you had to hand over the £20 RVP bet I won? You mean like that time huh? Yep. You sure showed me!![]()



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Number 5 did. And again this year and I even made the bet easier for him!FrenchGun wrote:I could defend RVP all day but never would I bet my money on his fitness!DB10GOONER wrote:Number 5 wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Yeah. I think someone is being unecessarily pedantic.![]()
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No that’s just where I stopped looking. I thought 3 recent seasons was enough to back up my point. But if you want me to pull your pants down in front of the whole forum again, I’m happy to do so Mr 10 and will keep researching.DB10GOONER wrote:And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.![]()
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Yep, I showed you how to be dignified and gracious when you let your heart rule your head.DB10GOONER wrote:Number 5 wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Yeah. I think someone is being unecessarily pedantic.![]()
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No that’s just where I stopped looking. I thought 3 recent seasons was enough to back up my point. But if you want me to pull your pants down in front of the whole forum again, I’m happy to do so Mr 10 and will keep researching.DB10GOONER wrote:And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.![]()
Like that time at the fans game when in front of everyone you had to hand over the £20 RVP bet I won? You mean like that time huh? Yep. You sure showed me!![]()
But still, this year? 11 down 4 to go, you might need to dismantle that picture frame you proudly display the twenty in on your front room wall and hand it back eh?

We can only show respect to someone with such determination and "mental strenght"!DB10GOONER wrote:Number 5 did. And again this year and I even made the bet easier for him!FrenchGun wrote:I could defend RVP all day but never would I bet my money on his fitness!DB10GOONER wrote:Number 5 wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Yeah. I think someone is being unecessarily pedantic.![]()
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No that’s just where I stopped looking. I thought 3 recent seasons was enough to back up my point. But if you want me to pull your pants down in front of the whole forum again, I’m happy to do so Mr 10 and will keep researching.DB10GOONER wrote:And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.![]()
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Are you that rich Number 5? Wanna bet on Almunia not making any mistakes 'till the end of the season?


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Number 5 wrote:Yep, I showed you how to be dignified and gracious when you let your heart rule your head.DB10GOONER wrote:Number 5 wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Yeah. I think someone is being unecessarily pedantic.![]()
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No that’s just where I stopped looking. I thought 3 recent seasons was enough to back up my point. But if you want me to pull your pants down in front of the whole forum again, I’m happy to do so Mr 10 and will keep researching.DB10GOONER wrote:And the fact you could only find three examples out of the last how many seasons says it all, Number 5.![]()
Like that time at the fans game when in front of everyone you had to hand over the £20 RVP bet I won? You mean like that time huh? Yep. You sure showed me!![]()
But still, this year? 11 down 4 to go, you might need to dismantle that picture frame you proudly display the twenty in on your front room wall and hand it back eh?

I wanted you to win that bet last year!! Want you to win it this year too, but tbh - I think you won't...
