As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Oxlade Chamberlain well I refer you to Theo Walcott
Why is this even relevant? Because they're both mixed race and played for Southampton?
Why the fuck are you bringing race into a purely football discussion? Is it because you are too unintelligent to actually use facts for a rebuttal? Fucks' sake I will break it down for you: yeah, they both came from Southampton. They are both very young. Walcott is relevant because he was touted as one of the most promising young talents in European football who was wanted by a raft of managers. 5 years down the line and no one would consider him even rmeotely close to the finished article. So much of his game is missing. It is a massive, MASSIVE failure of management there and even the Southampton academy coach had an almighty pop at Wenger.
Now. Much as I dislike Redknapp, he somehow managed to get Gareth Bale to become a PFA Player of the Year. Walcott will never even be nominated for one under Wenger. Bale also left Southampton at the same time as Walcott btw.
So it IS relevant because Wenger has shown that his tactical imbecility and loser mentality he cultivates at Arsenal is counter-productive to young players.
But yeah go on, play the race card with someone who is actually ethnic themselves. Pfffft....
djhdjh wrote:Having a player like Benayoun on the bench ready to come into the team is not a bad thing. I don't understand people judging him simply because Chelsea let him go rather than forming their own opinion. He's a good player who's been around top clubs for a few years and always links play and makes chances.
What you mean top clubs like Racing Santander and Chelsea reserves?
Liverpol maybe, where he played well enough to get picked up by Chelsea.
I wouldn't hold it against a player just because they played for a lesser team many years ago. You could go on all day about most players.
Ashley Young, Watford? No thanks.
Phil Jones, Blackblurn? Keep him.
piresistible wrote:We have signed a german international, a brazilian international, a korean international and some experienced, proven premier league players for a change BUT YET some quarters in the media and some fans are still criticizing. I am curious to know exactly which players these people felt Arsenal should have signed given their "limited resources". Mertesacker is a german international with a wealth of experience, same with Santos. Arteta and Benayoun are proven premier league players and can really show the way for the younger players. Arsenal only lost 3 first teamers, there is absolutely no need for them to spend for the sake of it.
Where have you got 'limited resouces' from? Please tell me when Arsenal have stated this?
he was fairly good and was worth about £4-5 million max he couldnt believe and actually pissed himself laughing that we payed £12 mil for him
Well Fergie was after him for 10 mil, so I doubt both of them were hoodwinked into going after someone who was just 'fairly good'
sorry mate but if ferguson really wanted him he would have got him
cough, cough...Ramsey, Sneider, Mikel...
Smalling - Jones
I think Smalling and Jones were big risks and to their luck or credit whochever u put it have worked out well for them - if we had gone in for them Wenger wud have been slated for spenidn gso much on them
djhdjh wrote:Having a player like Benayoun on the bench ready to come into the team is not a bad thing. I don't understand people judging him simply because Chelsea let him go rather than forming their own opinion. He's a good player who's been around top clubs for a few years and always links play and makes chances.
What you mean top clubs like Racing Santander and Chelsea reserves?
Liverpol maybe, where he played well enough to get picked up by Chelsea.
I wouldn't hold it against a player just because they played for a lesser team many years ago. You could go on all day about most players.
Ashley Young, Watford? No thanks.
Phil Jones, Blackblurn? Keep him.
Yep. So I guess Chelski just decided to release a quality player, for no fee, to Arsenal because they are benevolent like that hmmm?
I suppose yuo were one of the comedians who lauded the signing of Silvestre as 'a good bit of business'.
It doesn't take the brian of Britain to figure out that: if Chelsea are willig to just lend Arsenal a player, he cannot actually be very good! But yeah sure, carry on.
rigsby wrote:
Well Fergie was after him for 10 mil, so I doubt both of them were hoodwinked into going after someone who was just 'fairly good'
sorry mate but if ferguson really wanted him he would have got him
cough, cough...Ramsey, Sneider, Mikel...
Smalling - Jones
I think Smalling and Jones were big risks and to their luck or credit whochever u put it have worked out well for them - if we had gone in for them Wenger wud have been slated for spenidn gso much on them
We did go in for them and they chose united over us
rigsby wrote:
Well Fergie was after him for 10 mil, so I doubt both of them were hoodwinked into going after someone who was just 'fairly good'
sorry mate but if ferguson really wanted him he would have got him
cough, cough...Ramsey, Sneider, Mikel...
Smalling - Jones
I think Smalling and Jones were big risks and to their luck or credit whochever u put it have worked out well for them - if we had gone in for them Wenger wud have been slated for spenidn gso much on them
Apart from your quite frankly, fucking spasticated comments on Arsenal 'being a mid-table club before Wenger came and turned it around' (muppet).....
You are trying to tell people that Smalling and Jones were big risks. Despite both having performed admirably for Premier League clubs.
Yet on the other hand, Oxpot Chamberlain, Joel Campbell and Choo Young are definitely not risks eh? I've always wondered what it's like in the mind of a retard and now I know. Thanks for the insight.
Mate, although I think he's wrong most of the time, which is obvious to the point that we probably shouldn't even rise to replying, leave out the spastic and retard comments.
Pleased with the signings, think they will add to the squad, the defence looks more solid and Arteta ain't a bad option, he knows the league so will hit the ground running, we ain't got 7 months for the latest French wonder kid to find his feet.
Not pleased that it took till the final day, all these players could have come for pre season, this just proves that Sunday panicked Wenger and its good to see him back down with regards to buying older players.
Panic buys are better than no buys and happy we got new players which pushes failed players getting too many game out of the picture.
People claim to be realists then cry when we don't spend 35m on one player, kind of ironic really.
piresistible wrote:We have signed a german international, a brazilian international, a korean international and some experienced, proven premier league players for a change BUT YET some quarters in the media and some fans are still criticizing. I am curious to know exactly which players these people felt Arsenal should have signed given their "limited resources". Mertesacker is a german international with a wealth of experience, same with Santos. Arteta and Benayoun are proven premier league players and can really show the way for the younger players. Arsenal only lost 3 first teamers, there is absolutely no need for them to spend for the sake of it.
Where have you got 'limited resouces' from? Please tell me when Arsenal have stated this?
flash gunner wrote:
sorry mate but if ferguson really wanted him he would have got him
cough, cough...Ramsey, Sneider, Mikel...
Smalling - Jones
I think Smalling and Jones were big risks and to their luck or credit whochever u put it have worked out well for them - if we had gone in for them Wenger wud have been slated for spenidn gso much on them
Apart from your quite frankly, fucking spasticated comments on Arsenal 'being a mid-table club before Wenger came and turned it around' (muppet).....
You are trying to tell people that Smalling and Jones were big risks. Despite both having performed admirably for Premier League clubs.
Yet on the other hand, Oxpot Chamberlain, Joel Campbell and Choo Young are definitely not risks eh? I've always wondered what it's like in the mind of a retard and now I know. Thanks for the insight.
Look you dunce, all I am saying is the players we have brought in need our support not idiots like you chatting rubbish about what's worn g and so on. Give them time.
djhdjh wrote:Having a player like Benayoun on the bench ready to come into the team is not a bad thing. I don't understand people judging him simply because Chelsea let him go rather than forming their own opinion. He's a good player who's been around top clubs for a few years and always links play and makes chances.
What you mean top clubs like Racing Santander and Chelsea reserves?
Liverpol maybe, where he played well enough to get picked up by Chelsea.
I wouldn't hold it against a player just because they played for a lesser team many years ago. You could go on all day about most players.
Ashley Young, Watford? No thanks.
Phil Jones, Blackblurn? Keep him.
Yep. So I guess Chelski just decided to release a quality player, for no fee, to Arsenal because they are benevolent like that hmmm?
I suppose yuo were one of the comedians who lauded the signing of Silvestre as 'a good bit of business'.
It doesn't take the brian of Britain to figure out that: if Chelsea are willig to just lend Arsenal a player, he cannot actually be very good! But yeah sure, carry on.
Bloody hell. So if a player leaves Chelsea, United then automatically it must be because they aren't very good?
A loan deal gets the player off the wage bill. Money.
djhdjh wrote:Having a player like Benayoun on the bench ready to come into the team is not a bad thing. I don't understand people judging him simply because Chelsea let him go rather than forming their own opinion. He's a good player who's been around top clubs for a few years and always links play and makes chances.
What you mean top clubs like Racing Santander and Chelsea reserves?
Liverpol maybe, where he played well enough to get picked up by Chelsea.
I wouldn't hold it against a player just because they played for a lesser team many years ago. You could go on all day about most players.
Ashley Young, Watford? No thanks.
Phil Jones, Blackblurn? Keep him.
Yep. So I guess Chelski just decided to release a quality player, for no fee, to Arsenal because they are benevolent like that hmmm?
I suppose yuo were one of the comedians who lauded the signing of Silvestre as 'a good bit of business'.
It doesn't take the brian of Britain to figure out that: if Chelsea are willig to just lend Arsenal a player, he cannot actually be very good! But yeah sure, carry on.
Bloody hell. So if a player leaves Chelsea, United then automatically it must be because they aren't very good?
A loan deal gets the player off the wage bill. Money.
dont bother explaining that to baba-DUM-de he thinks we got him so that the chavs could simply off load the players. what a muppet.
Gunnersaurus wrote:Isn't it obvious that by limited resources he means wage structure?
Is it obvious? and the wage structure is ***** anyway we should be paying better players a lot and weaker players a lot less instead of everyone a similar amount. We have the same wage bill roughly as united yet Rooner for example earns a fortune more than say Smalling or Welbeck and rightly so
