Babatunde wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:QuartzGooner wrote:Babatunde wrote:
And still no one has addressed the Wenger comment about Arsenal no longer being a big club post Cesc and Nasri? Everyone is avoiding that one for some reason!
I addressed it.
I said that Wenger has been talking "PR speak" for the last few years, and I treat whatever he says with a pile of salt.
Does not mean that everything he says is a total lie, but I treat his public remarks with a healthy dose of scepticism.
His statement on us being a big club carries no more weight than countless "I did not see it" replies to when questioned on one of our players who has committed a foul on the pitch.
It was addressed by nearly everyone on here at the time too in fairness.
Babatunde - your posting style is reminding me more and more of OCDMarty every day. You twist facts and peoples words to suit your argument but ignore other things they've written when it suits you too. I've checked your IP and I know you are not OCDMarty but it is just really weird that your posting style is so similar.
I guess what I'm trying to say is we just got rid of one fucking pain in the arse (steady Jay, steady...
) and I'm hoping you are not going to become the next pain in the arse on here.
Sorry mate but that's bollox and I won't accept that.
I never twisted a single fact. If I said no one has addressed it and they actually did - then I'll accept I am wrong. Unlike USM I never call anyone a liar and a coward for having a different opinion.
I have always said ppl are entitled to their opinion, and I never slate anyone for having one.
If you actually take the time to read through some posts, you will denote that I have often asked a very simple question that has lead to Precious vitriolic responses. Augie even noticed it, as did a couple of others mate.
Some people don't like any kind of question that contravenes their slt Ianted image of Arsenal and fair enough. But no, I do not accept that I begin to insult if someone has an opinion I do not like. Whose facts did I twist? Please show me and unlike USM I'll apologize for it.
Fact is though, QuartzGooner has disagreed with me and I never called him a coward for it. He makes some good points. I'll never slate someone who uses a good factual argument to refute what I said. Someone called me out on my Newcastle squad comparison and I held my hand up and said I got that one wrong.
Of course though, perhaps it's better to not ask the questions I am asking. Perhaps I should just toe the line then and not debate anything. Like I said, I am not abusive to anyone, I just disagree with a lot of what they say.
If that's what annoys you mate (and I have not 'twised people's facts, I have argued against their point of view) then perhaps an Idi Mani-style media purge is required and I will self-censor and never again dispute sthg I disagree with.
Sorry mate but I think it's proper far-fetched for you to compare me to that nob.
Or shall I point you to some of the responses a simple polling question received? 
Well, I wasn't actually having a serious pop at you, thus my use of emoticons, and no one is saying you can't post your views, but seeing as you've offered it up I will do you the courtesy of expanding upon this.
Read the bolded bits above, mate. Go back and read any of OCDMarty's posts. You honestly don't see similarities?
Patronising and belittling anyone that disagrees with you? Here's a few examples from other threads;
"You seem to be missing the point entirely Boomer.
It is a cop-out to claim that because the ST been paid already that it makes no sense not attending. Sorry mate, that's bollocks and you know it."
"ooooh you must be diehard with that Red membership card."
"I especially like the way you deliberately dodged the simple question I asked."
I would say you are often abusive and insulting, in the same way OCDMarty was often abusive and insulting to those that didn't agree with him. You have called people all sorts of names on here on numerous threads. Here's couple of examples;
"Fuck off you clueless indolent semen filter. If you've got nothing of bare intelligence to denote, best you go back to finishing your episode of Thomas the Tank Engine."
"You sound like one of those fuckwits in America."
And here's a few that tick both boxes!
"Now look here. The reason you are clinically retarded is because nor you, nor Kiwomya, nor any of the apologists who are so upset by the fact that people who slate Wenger are being proved 100% correct, can substantiate ANY of the garbage you claim. You've written a post with zero substantiated, verifiable fact. Hence you are rather an imbecilic little chap are you not?"
"COTY alert! (a prize goes to whoever guesses the acronym)....
It's like this. The idiot who wrote the initial post said that getting rid of Wanker would mean 'seeing what it's like to be Everton or Newcastle for a couple of years'.
If you had a fucking clue of football my retard friend, then you would realise that right now, most Arsenal fans would give an arm and a leg to be in Everton or Newcastle's position in the league. Look at the fucking league table you Wenger semen-guzzling imbecile.
Another Red member who's followed the club since 2001 speaks....do fuck off."
"If you're going to make lame attempts at proving there is more than one brain cell in that concave prison you call a brain, you should probably learn the difference between 'ingenuous' and 'disingenuous'.
I've got some kids books my nephews use here, might come in handy in a few years mate though I concur, might be a bit high brow for the time being..."
Still, you claim not to have insulted or been abusive to anyone.
And then in your next post but one you write;
"You also managed to disagree with me without wailing like a spoilt brat. Excellent."
You don't think that is similar to OCDMarty's perceived sense of persecution and, in fact, insulting to the intelligence of other people on here? You are insinuating that anyone that has disagreed with you is acting like a spoilt brat. It might not have been your intention, but you can see the way it reads.
Now I know the quotes I have used above are taken out of context, and I know you have received your share of abuse too, but I am directly answering your question as to when I thought you had been insulting, abusive and similar to USMarty - which was my original point. There are similarities. I wouldn't say you are off the wall mental like poor old Martin but there are clear similarities between your posting styles.
People are insulting and abusive on here from time to time and it's mostly let go. We all lose it at some stage. That's not a major problem.
But if it becomes a very regular thing and your posting style is constantly insulting and aggressive you will most likely end up banned. You have some excellent points to make and you seem intelligent enough, but maybe just tone down the abuse and insults, huh? Maybe just accept that not everyone actually agrees with you and that is their right.
