THE WENGER THREAD

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I had to add this

'Know it all' set for Gunners talks

Reports claim that the arsenal world is suffering from a large number of dim witted fans who claim to know more than arsene wenger and any of these people should take the role. Should arsenal take up the option of a clause of 5 million to terminate the contract of arsene wenger and give the job to the next 'know it all' fan, the emirates could see a massive shake up. The news comes as a shock to arsene wenger with reports stating that the new 'know it all' manager already has his targets.

Dimitar Whineatov 25m (The skilful yet likes to throw his toys out of his pram at any given oppotunity would be a pricey yet perfect replacement for thierry henry who still hasn't been replaced)

David Bentley 22m - A shock return for the now white hart lane man but letting such a quality asset leave is a problem the new know it all can't bare to face.

William Gallas Kolo Toure Johan Djorou Phillipe Senderos Alexandre Song Harvard Nordveit Gavin Hoyte and Bacary Sagna (who can play centre back) Have all been likened to 'litter' by the possible new boss at the emirates stadium

Only players the caliber of Johnathan Woodgate and Rio Ferdinand are suitable for the emirates stadium (the possible new manager has been quoted as saying there englissh init!?)

Wenger has been told by relatives to leave the emirates and take his dream job at PSG

Hilarious. Well, next time you're at the Arsenal, and disagree with a substitution Wenger has made, or a particular team selection, I know now that you will not be questioning him, for fear of being a "know it all". I mean, after all, as fans of a football club (most of whom who pay a shit load of money to watch the team play), who are we to have an opinion on how our club should be run?

[sarcasm]These "know it all" fans who spend their whole time whining, spurred on by some misplaced feeling of self-righteousness which comes out of spending an extortionate amount of money to follow a football team are honestly no good, and we need them out. It is they who are ruining this once great club. What we need is for people to conform. To never question anything, for they are the true Gooners. No real Arsenal fan would dare to question Arsene Wenger. After all, as a wise man once said, he IS Arsenal FC. Arsenal will simply cease to exist after he is gone, so to suggest that he should leave one day is not only disrespectful, but is also tantamount to hatred towards our club. [/sarcasm]

Are you being serious, the post was a joke, or didn't you quite understand that? As for everyone and their opinions, ofcourse they are entitled to share them, but that doesn't mean i am not allowed to disagree with them and think they're idiotic.

I don't agree with Wenger on certain issues. However, i have 100% trust in the man who has brought a huge amount of success and took our club to the top of English football.

Am I being serious? Was that post a joke? Dunno mate. You tell me. Do most posters put "[sarcasm][/sarcasm"] round what they're saying"? It's hardly breaking the Enigma, is it?

Look, you're entitled to your opinion. Of course you are. Moreover, to suggest that Sam Allerdyce or Alan Shearer should take over from Wenger is pretty dozy and downright disrespectful to our most successful manager of all time. I'm with you on that. However, your post about "know it all" fans was just ridiculous. It implied that fans should not have an opinion. Well, if that's what you're looking for, then you're in the wrong place my friend (especially with the Boogey Man - Augie - about).

Do I think I could do a better job than AW in charge of Arsenal? Of course not! Am I entitled to my opinion when it comes to how the club is run? Yes. Am I going to voice it on an Arsenal forum? After forking out £42 on a West Brom ticket, you'd better fucking believe I will!

See, all you're doing is looking at the most extreme views that have come from this thread (i.e. - Wenger out and replace him with Jol). They're not representative of even a small chunk of Arsenal fans. So, to start getting pissy over one fan saying that is really a waste of time. You'd be better served actually reading what some of the regulars here have to say (not exclusively the doom and gloomers) and joining the debate rather than chipping in now and then with "it makes me sick" and having that be that.

[rodders999]

As much as it pains me to say it I have to agree with others on here that going into tonights game (worth up to 20 million by all accounts) with the squad we have is gross mis-management from Wenger. With the league starting in 3 days our problems should have been sorted WELL before now. Aaron Ramsey who not 3 months ago was considered too raw to start the FA cup final for Cardiff is now expected to step up to the plate in the Champions League. Let's hope he's a super quick developer.

[I Hate Hleb]

It was not to get Arsene out now but give him 1 more season. The whole of football has changed in terms of players diets and training Wenger just started the ball rolling. I suggested that the board and Wenger need to join the others or get left behind with the take over. But he would still be looking at youngsters as his good at that and likes developing them into top players.

He allowed to many invincibles to leave at the same time. His fault and the board he didn't need to sell Vieira coould of given Pires a deal sorted out Flam way before it was due to run out. Give DB a year contract,not sold petit or Edu and kept Sol Campbell instead of letting him "go abroad".

I didn't say sack him now I said it should be either his defining season or his last.

I hope we win the Champions league and league and he can say I'm ready to move upstairs and bring in Tony Adams next season.

On both this thread and the 'Who Could Replace Wenger' one you protest that you're not saying get rid of Wenger now. Yet that's exactly what you did say on your first post:

I need to say this and go agianst the great majority but it's time for Wenger to go. I'm tired of his stuborn attitude towards transfers and the costant refusal to sort out contracts before the time,for not building on our strongest team. We are always playing catch up replacing players lost and have never truly replaced the defence and midfield of old.

We need change I would love wenger just to get a proper keeper of which we have not had since Seaman. Why does he refuse to buy experience even if it's for a few seasons?

We had the best out of Wenger time for change. Now we need to get a billionare takeover and a new manager. Even if Wenger had the money he would still be getting kids and unknowns. I'm tired of unknowns with potential give me names to get excited about. Not since Bergkamp have a felt that thrill from a signing and excitement that the paying fans deserve.

Thank you Arsene for giving me the best years of Arsenal but it's time for a new beggining. You can only re-build teams a number of times before you start ruining the foundations and I fear that is whats happening to the club we love.

It was only after you started taking some stick that you modified your opinion.

26 May 1989,

Great post and similar to what I was going to write in response to Augie's earlier post.

DB10, Tony Saunders, Gus et.al,

No-one is saying that you can't question Arsene and The Board's actions and no-one, except for 'Cesc Is God' I think, has said that Wenger should go on indefinately if we continue to miss out on trophies. Equally, great as he has been, I don't think many gooners buy into the 'Arsene is Arsenal' bollocks either, because anyone with any sense knows that Arsenal Football Club existed and were successful before Wenger and will exist and hopefully be successful after he leaves.

I think the majority of gooners' thinking is somewhere near DB10's 'a couple more years to win a trophy' or 26th May 1989's 'let's wait until the flats have been sold and we know for certain he has the finances' point of view. Anything either side of those two is either an extreme or unfair position, in my opinion.

I believe either of those two scenerios would be giving Wenger a fair enough period of time to prove one way or the other whether he really has lost it, or if the past 4 years have been a case of Wenger working with his hands tied behind his back, as a lot of us suspect.

[MyOldMan]

I did say It's time for Wenger to go. I didn't say the word "NOW".

I thought people would be clever enough to presume I didn't mean just before the season starts as that would be foolish.

I added my other bits to correct the confusion and make my point of if this season doesn't go well.

If I didn't want stick I wouldn't of posted the thread in the first place.

I value everyones opinion even if it's negative they still make valid points.

[MyOldMan]

It very easy to read something to make it sound different to what you would actually say speaking it. I feel that people get the wrong end of the stick alot of times cos of how they interpret the text.

I think this thread has had it's shelf life and out of date.
A bit like IHH's user name.

Only joking IHH you are probably the one that talks the most sense out of all of us. Thank you for your contribution to the forum you make it what it is.

[I Hate Hleb]

I did say It's time for Wenger to go. I didn't say the word "NOW"

I thought people would be clever enough to presume I didn't mean just before the season starts as that would be foolish.......

Sorry to be pedantic but you did actually...

..We had the best out of Wenger time for change. Now we need to get a billionare takeover and a new manager.

Followed by:

...Thank you Arsene for giving me the best years of Arsenal but it's time for a new beggining.

What were people to assume from that then? Rather than patronising people with the quip about 'presuming people were clever enough' to understand what you meant, perhaps you're the one that wasn't clever enough to put forward your thoughts in a coherent way so there wouldn't be room for so-called 'misinterpretation' of what you meant!!

...Only joking IHH you are probably the one that talks the most sense out of all of us. Thank you for your contribution to the forum you make it what it is.

Now that kind of flattery might well get you places, young man.

[highburyJD]

it's easy to get emotional and react to perceived criticism of arguably our greatest ever manager
but ultimately we can all have different opinions

who knows a new manager could reinvigorate the club

personally I think it would be madness but hey different strokes and all that

but suggestions that selling the club into debt
allowing a rapist to borrow against future earnings
to use the money my children will spend on season tickets
to buy himself our club as a toy

anyone who thinks this is a good idea simply hasn't understood the reality of the situation

[REB]

allowing a rapist to borrow against future earnings
to use the money my children will spend on season tickets
to buy himself our club as a toy

anyone who thinks this is a good idea simply hasn't understood the reality of the situation

and its ok for our biggest share holder to be a tax exile in switzerland is it
who refuse to sanction transfer fees bigger then a few million, who charge us the biggest prices in world football but yet refuse to buy top players,

and again where and when did usmanov say he was going to borrow against the club
the reality of the situation is the current board take arsenal fans for granted and will settle for 4th place every season for the uefa golden goose money, sold hoyte today for 3 million, another 3 million to go upstairs to the board room

[gus ceasar is a legend]

More cigars and brandy old boy!

[Magic Hat]

You make being a tax exile sound like a bad thing

[DB10GOONER]

It very easy to read something to make it sound different to what you would actually say speaking it. I feel that people get the wrong end of the stick alot of times cos of how they interpret the text.

I think this thread has had it's shelf life and out of date.
A bit like IHH's user name.

Only joking IHH you are probably the one that talks the most sense out of all of us. Thank you for your contribution to the forum you make it what it is.

You were starting to make sense there. Right up until;

"...IHH you are probably the one that talks the most sense out of all of us. Thank you for your contribution to the forum you make it what it is..."



Is you a mentalist?

[Block 18 row 2]

Only four teams have qualified for every single one of the last ten Champions League seasons:

Arsenal
Manure
Real Madrid
Barcelona

I'd love to how much each spent on tranfers in that time. Without having the actual figures I'm sure we all know that we've been by far and away the most frugal. The other three may have won more pots but if you look at it from the point of view of someone running a successful football club, rather than a fan, then we doing fucking brilliantly. Ultimately there is nothing and no-one beyond Wenger so get behind him. Unless you know of someone who could do better? Yourselves perhaps?

[highburyJD]

[quote="REBEL GOONERand again where and when did usmanov say he was going to borrow against the club [/quote]
where and when has a foriegn owner come in without doing so...?

[flash gunner]

[quote="REBEL GOONERand again where and when did usmanov say he was going to borrow against the club

where and when has a foriegn owner come in without doing so...?[/quote]

Might be wrong but Chelsea

[Calo]

[quote="REBEL GOONERand again where and when did usmanov say he was going to borrow against the club

where and when has a foriegn owner come in without doing so...?[/quote]

did he really say that!!!

f him then

we want only super rich russians

mr putin come and save us