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highburyJD wrote:just because I'm not as suicidally maudlin as you lot doesnae equate to being 'happy' with not winning things
comparing an individual managers record to cherry picked best results of Benitez (with Houllier's team) Avram Grant (with Mourinho+Scolari's team) and De Matteo (with Mourinho+AvB's team) isn't really a fair parallel.
Also qualifying consistently is ridiculously being used as a stick used to beat Wenger with.
Liverpool+Sperz wish theyd qualified every year - they might have shiny new cashcow stadiums
also I never said "not winning it is good" which would be ridiculous
although not quite as ridiculous as saying any manager that hasn't won it is shit and awful
(every manager that has not won the CL has a worse record in it than Wenger)
If you are to deflect glory from managers based on their teams being built by their predecessors then how many of wenger's trophies does that taint ? The famous back 5 were integral in 98 double and Bergkamp, keown, romford pele and cashly were all big players in 2004 and none of those were wenger purchases.
Also qualifying consistently is only used as a stick to beat wenger with cos he keeps talking it up saying that it is better than winning a trophy
highburyJD wrote:just because I'm not as suicidally maudlin as you lot doesnae equate to being 'happy' with not winning things
comparing an individual managers record to cherry picked best results of Benitez (with Houllier's team) Avram Grant (with Mourinho+Scolari's team) and De Matteo (with Mourinho+AvB's team) isn't really a fair parallel.
Also qualifying consistently is ridiculously being used as a stick used to beat Wenger with.
Liverpool+Sperz wish theyd qualified every year - they might have shiny new cashcow stadiums
also I never said "not winning it is good" which would be ridiculous
although not quite as ridiculous as saying any manager that hasn't won it is shit and awful
(every manager that has not won the CL has a worse record in it than Wenger)
If you are to deflect glory from managers based on their teams being built by their predecessors then how many of wenger's trophies does that taint ? The famous back 5 were integral in 98 double and Bergkamp, keown, romford pele and cashly were all big players in 2004 and none of those were wenger purchases.
Also qualifying consistently is only used as a stick to beat wenger with cos he keeps talking it up saying that it is better than winning a trophy
back 5/Keown there's an argument (I would say he extended their careers when everyone expected them to be replaced)
Parlour was no more than an average player pre-Wenger
discounting youth players is ridiculous - the manager chooses who to promote
Wenger was extraordinarily lucky to have Bergkamp
also 'better than a trophy' when did he say that...?
unfortunately it is more important than a domestic cup but obv not better than any trophy
