The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

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Remain or leave

Remain
30
37%
Leave
51
63%
 
Total votes: 81

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GoonerMuzz wrote:
flash gunner wrote:This going to become like the religion thread :banghead:

The facts are we have voted out. The remain side we not good enough in their campaign to persuade the British public. We might live to regret the decision, we might flourish outside of the E.U. no one truly knows. We can guess, we can post opinions of experts on either side but

NO ONE KNOWS :?
Statement of the thread there Flash!

For all that leavers like me can hope things are going to be better out and those who are remainers can say it's going to be a disaster, until the details of trade agreements, international relations et al come out and people have time to divest them and not knee jerk over them nobody knows :roll:
So if nobody knows the true effect of leaving the EU, why vote leave? That in itself is a gamble and totally against human nature to stick with what they know.

It will be a long time before we know the true effect of Brexit, but what we know today should be cause for concern. We have already had soundbites from overseas companies and our currency which now sits at 30 year lows vs the $. A low pound equals a poorer Britain in so many ways. The stock market sitting at all time highs is irrelevant, the 10% increase in share prices since brexit has been nullified by the more than 15% drop in our currency.

The Europeans will not bow down and give us the trade deal we want, in fact they will do their best to screw us over. Already they are circling like vultures to take away our pass-porting rights for financial services. which will be a massive blow for London. And for those who don't care for London, if we have a rough time you can be sure that will be amplified across the rest of the country.

UKIP are showing themselves to be a bunch of jokers, the leadership post Farage is unstable and they are literally fighting with each other. Millions fell for their sales patter over Brexit. I wonder how long it will be before the masses realise they have been done. You couldn't make this up.

Theresa May an unelected Prime Minister is now pitching for the UKIP/Labour hardcore working class vote. She is doing her best to alienate herself from the millions that put the party in power last year. As a Conservative voter I am not impressed with her so far.

I am sure those that genuinely thought about voting leave and looked at all of the issues rather than one, are having second thoughts on whether they did the right thing. Given the uncertainty so far, I would hazard a guess that we would vote remain if the referendum happened today.

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I agree its a huge risk to have voted leave nut flush. Personally i think we will suffer short term, the next 2-5 years may be volatile but will do well long term but there is no way of knowing this.

I'm a bit of a lefty socialist :oops: and i think the uncontrolled immigration has caused major effect of British young peoples job prospects and a quite significant drop in wages for lower paid people in general. The EU has its good points increased worker rights is a very good thing. Jeremy Corbyn an even bigger 'lefty' than me :wink: :D is massively anti EU which is why he gave such a half hearted performance in the referendum build up, personally i think to be socialist is to be anti EU but the problem is to be right wing is to be anti EU and this causes such a conflict for socialists that they put there own beliefs aside to 'fight' the enemy right wingers

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flash gunner wrote:I agree its a huge risk to have voted leave nut flush. Personally i think we will suffer short term, the next 2-5 years may be volatile but will do well long term but there is no way of knowing this.

I'm a bit of a lefty socialist :oops: and i think the uncontrolled immigration has caused major effect of British young peoples job prospects and a quite significant drop in wages for lower paid people in general. The EU has its good points increased worker rights is a very good thing. Jeremy Corbyn an even bigger 'lefty' than me :wink: :D is massively anti EU which is why he gave such a half hearted performance in the referendum build up, personally i think to be socialist is to be anti EU but the problem is to be right wing is to be anti EU and this causes such a conflict for socialists that they put there own beliefs aside to 'fight' the enemy right wingers
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.

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I said a while back that we wont leave europe whatever the result and I stand by that statement .
Theresa Maggot and her minions deliberately sent out scare messages during the the nuremburg rally this week and now the banks are out their selling the pound .
All of this is carefully orchestrated ,the long term goal is to force a second vote which they will fix it whatever the real vote is !

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this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.
And this is a typical remain load of bollocks too why would we drift to obscurity ?

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Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:I agree its a huge risk to have voted leave nut flush. Personally i think we will suffer short term, the next 2-5 years may be volatile but will do well long term but there is no way of knowing this.

I'm a bit of a lefty socialist :oops: and i think the uncontrolled immigration has caused major effect of British young peoples job prospects and a quite significant drop in wages for lower paid people in general. The EU has its good points increased worker rights is a very good thing. Jeremy Corbyn an even bigger 'lefty' than me :wink: :D is massively anti EU which is why he gave such a half hearted performance in the referendum build up, personally i think to be socialist is to be anti EU but the problem is to be right wing is to be anti EU and this causes such a conflict for socialists that they put there own beliefs aside to 'fight' the enemy right wingers
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.
Why will we drift into obscurity? Because you got a bad exchange rate on your holiday money recently? :roll:

Britain is a big country inside or outside of the EU, 'obscurity' my arse :banghead:

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Herd wrote:
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.
And this is a typical remain load of bollocks too why would we drift to obscurity ?
1. we dont actually make very much these days
2. have you ever tried making deals with 27 people all at the same time? this is in effect what the UK will need to do once article 50 is triggered.
there is no way that the remaining 27 countries of the EU will let us get a good deal
3. you may be putting your head in the sand regarding the collapsing pound but the reality is a collapsing pound is making every single one of us poorer by the day. How you can argue against that FACT is beyond me.

give me one reason why we wont drift into obscurity?

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flash gunner wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:I agree its a huge risk to have voted leave nut flush. Personally i think we will suffer short term, the next 2-5 years may be volatile but will do well long term but there is no way of knowing this.

I'm a bit of a lefty socialist :oops: and i think the uncontrolled immigration has caused major effect of British young peoples job prospects and a quite significant drop in wages for lower paid people in general. The EU has its good points increased worker rights is a very good thing. Jeremy Corbyn an even bigger 'lefty' than me :wink: :D is massively anti EU which is why he gave such a half hearted performance in the referendum build up, personally i think to be socialist is to be anti EU but the problem is to be right wing is to be anti EU and this causes such a conflict for socialists that they put there own beliefs aside to 'fight' the enemy right wingers
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.
Why will we drift into obscurity? Because you got a bad exchange rate on your holiday money recently? :roll:

Britain is a big country inside or outside of the EU, 'obscurity' my arse :banghead:
Britain is actually just a little island in a huge global market. if it gets poorer you will soon realise this.
I have been to China and when you go there you realise how insignificant we are, and how scary the future could look.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... dition-af/

Classy. :lol: :oops:

And these are the people that led you guys outa the EU. :shock:

#justsaying

:D :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... dition-af/

Classy. :lol: :oops:

And these are the people that led you guys outa the EU. :shock:

#justsaying

:D :wink:
I know highly embarrassing :oops:

that he couldnt take a punch without being rushed to hospital only to be found there is nothing wrong with you :oops:

:lol:

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flash gunner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... dition-af/

Classy. :lol: :oops:

And these are the people that led you guys outa the EU. :shock:

#justsaying

:D :wink:
I know highly embarrassing :oops:

that he couldnt take a punch without being rushed to hospital only to be found there is nothing wrong with you :oops:

:lol:
:lol:

Old skool braaap braaap back in da day he woulda been called....

... a pantywaist. :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:I agree its a huge risk to have voted leave nut flush. Personally i think we will suffer short term, the next 2-5 years may be volatile but will do well long term but there is no way of knowing this.

I'm a bit of a lefty socialist :oops: and i think the uncontrolled immigration has caused major effect of British young peoples job prospects and a quite significant drop in wages for lower paid people in general. The EU has its good points increased worker rights is a very good thing. Jeremy Corbyn an even bigger 'lefty' than me :wink: :D is massively anti EU which is why he gave such a half hearted performance in the referendum build up, personally i think to be socialist is to be anti EU but the problem is to be right wing is to be anti EU and this causes such a conflict for socialists that they put there own beliefs aside to 'fight' the enemy right wingers
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.

Why will we drift into obscurity? Because you got a bad exchange rate on your holiday money recently? :roll:

Britain is a big country inside or outside of the EU, 'obscurity' my arse :banghead:
Britain is actually just a little island in a huge global market. if it gets poorer you will soon realise this.
I have been to China and when you go there you realise how insignificant we are, and how scary the future could look.
China is a filthy country that cage boil alive and eat dogs if you like it so much you should have stayed there!

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:I agree its a huge risk to have voted leave nut flush. Personally i think we will suffer short term, the next 2-5 years may be volatile but will do well long term but there is no way of knowing this.

I'm a bit of a lefty socialist :oops: and i think the uncontrolled immigration has caused major effect of British young peoples job prospects and a quite significant drop in wages for lower paid people in general. The EU has its good points increased worker rights is a very good thing. Jeremy Corbyn an even bigger 'lefty' than me :wink: :D is massively anti EU which is why he gave such a half hearted performance in the referendum build up, personally i think to be socialist is to be anti EU but the problem is to be right wing is to be anti EU and this causes such a conflict for socialists that they put there own beliefs aside to 'fight' the enemy right wingers
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.

Why will we drift into obscurity? Because you got a bad exchange rate on your holiday money recently? :roll:

Britain is a big country inside or outside of the EU, 'obscurity' my arse :banghead:
Britain is actually just a little island in a huge global market. if it gets poorer you will soon realise this.
I have been to China and when you go there you realise how insignificant we are, and how scary the future could look.
China is a filthy country that cage boil alive and eat dogs if you like it so much you should have stayed there!
Can you please ease off on the sweeping xenophobic comments, mate? :|

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GoonerMuzz wrote:
flash gunner wrote:This going to become like the religion thread :banghead:

The facts are we have voted out. The remain side we not good enough in their campaign to persuade the British public. We might live to regret the decision, we might flourish outside of the E.U. no one truly knows. We can guess, we can post opinions of experts on either side but

NO ONE KNOWS :?
Statement of the thread there Flash!

For all that leavers like me can hope things are going to be better out and those who are remainers can say it's going to be a disaster, until the details of trade agreements, international relations et al come out and people have time to divest them and not knee jerk over them nobody knows :roll:
The thing is we know we are going to be out by March 2019 and it is patently obvious that none of the deals will be done by then. Therefore a total fucking disaster. Excellent piece in the Irish Times. Remamber the Irish, more than most, want a reasonable deal with the UK.

http://linkis.com/www.irishtimes.com/b/FhAO8
The news that article 50 of the treaty on European union will be triggered by the end of March has been greeted with a further fall in sterling. Every time one of the Brexit ministers makes a speech displaying no sense of awareness of economic reality (which is every time they open their mouths) sterling falls.
Brexiteers are displaying delusion in multiple ways. They talk about just quitting the EU and reverting to World Trade Organisation (WTO) rules. The fact that this would be a highly complex exercise has obviously escaped them: Britain is part of the WTO via its membership of the EU and it is not clear how or when it could be admitted into the WTO. They don’t seem to understand that nobody has negotiated a trade deal with the EU in less than seven years. The EU now has every reason to drag out the negotiations and leave them utterly unfinished when Britain has to leave the EU, some time during the first quarter of 2019 – that’s the hardest Brexit imaginable.

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