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Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:16 am
by Gunner Rob
what is particularly worrying is that the pound has collapsed just because the government has started talking about a hard brexit.
when we actually trigger article 50 the currency will plummet like we have never been seen before.

it is highly likely that the euro will be worth more than the pound.
the leavers argue that the euro is in trouble, the problem is that the facts do not bear that out.

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:19 am
by flash gunner
The pound will plummet you are right and then it will rise again..... Dont panic captain Mainwaring!!!!

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:26 am
by Herd
1. we dont actually make very much these daysand this means ?
2. have you ever tried making deals with 27 people all at the same time? this is in effect what the UK will need to do once article 50 is triggered.
there is no way that the remaining 27 countries of the EU will let us get a good dealUtter bollocks
3. you may be putting your head in the sand regarding the collapsing pound but the reality is a collapsing pound is making every single one of us poorer by the day. How you can argue against that FACT is beyond me.most deals are done in dollars including my business so its fucking great for me ,secondly a weak currency attracts foreign investment

give me one reason why we wont drift into obscurity?because if we start to drift we will collide with Ireland not obscurity

We arent leaving the Eu so dont get you knicks in a twist , Im fucking sick of remain voters bleating about us not knowing what we are doing and its negative effects which are all SHITE ,they play the victim card more than liverpool fans !

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:40 am
by Gunner Rob
Herd wrote:1. we dont actually make very much these daysand this means ?
2. have you ever tried making deals with 27 people all at the same time? this is in effect what the UK will need to do once article 50 is triggered.
there is no way that the remaining 27 countries of the EU will let us get a good dealUtter bollocks
3. you may be putting your head in the sand regarding the collapsing pound but the reality is a collapsing pound is making every single one of us poorer by the day. How you can argue against that FACT is beyond me.most deals are done in dollars including my business so its fucking great for me ,secondly a weak currency attracts foreign investment

give me one reason why we wont drift into obscurity?because if we start to drift we will collide with Ireland not obscurity

We arent leaving the Eu so dont get you knicks in a twist , Im fucking sick of remain voters bleating about us not knowing what we are doing and its negative effects which are all SHITE ,they play the victim card more than liverpool fans !
I wont try and reason with you any longer - the consequences of Brexit will become clear soon enough.

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:59 am
by nut flush gooner
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:I agree its a huge risk to have voted leave nut flush. Personally i think we will suffer short term, the next 2-5 years may be volatile but will do well long term but there is no way of knowing this.

I'm a bit of a lefty socialist :oops: and i think the uncontrolled immigration has caused major effect of British young peoples job prospects and a quite significant drop in wages for lower paid people in general. The EU has its good points increased worker rights is a very good thing. Jeremy Corbyn an even bigger 'lefty' than me :wink: :D is massively anti EU which is why he gave such a half hearted performance in the referendum build up, personally i think to be socialist is to be anti EU but the problem is to be right wing is to be anti EU and this causes such a conflict for socialists that they put there own beliefs aside to 'fight' the enemy right wingers
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.

Why will we drift into obscurity? Because you got a bad exchange rate on your holiday money recently? :roll:

Britain is a big country inside or outside of the EU, 'obscurity' my arse :banghead:
Britain is actually just a little island in a huge global market. if it gets poorer you will soon realise this.
I have been to China and when you go there you realise how insignificant we are, and how scary the future could look.
China is a filthy country that cage boil alive and eat dogs if you like it so much you should have stayed there!
Haha I love this thread. when Wenger leaves Arsenal I recogn this is the thread to become the mother of all threads. Brexit evolves in a way that makes any Wenger debate look like small fry,

To celebrate this amazing contribution to the discussion, I am going to celebrate our multi cultured society by ordering a Chinese Takeaway for lunch. Crispy Duck anyone?

Isn't it funny how the Brexiteers jump on their high horse, when this country is described as small in relation to the new world order. Still living in the days of the British Empire, some people are me thinks.

This week we where relegated to the 6th largest economy in the world, thanks to our weak currency. I mean come on even AW isn't that bad!

:D :D :D :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:24 pm
by Herd
I wont try and reason with you any longer - the consequences of Brexit will become clear soon enough.
You wern't reasoning you were bieng patronising theres a difference fella !
Morons like you and nut flush will blame Brexit for everything from the economy to genital warts ,it's pathetic and so are you .
btw that wasnt bieng patronising I am insulting you ! :barscarf:

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:52 pm
by Allgunsblazin
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
this is a typical leaver stance. the problem I have got with this is why is there any likelihood that things will be better in the long term?
I can only see a gradual drift into obscurity for the country.

Why will we drift into obscurity? Because you got a bad exchange rate on your holiday money recently? :roll:

Britain is a big country inside or outside of the EU, 'obscurity' my arse :banghead:
Britain is actually just a little island in a huge global market. if it gets poorer you will soon realise this.
I have been to China and when you go there you realise how insignificant we are, and how scary the future could look.
China is a filthy country that cage boil alive and eat dogs if you like it so much you should have stayed there!
Haha I love this thread. when Wenger leaves Arsenal I recogn this is the thread to become the mother of all threads. Brexit evolves in a way that makes any Wenger debate look like small fry,

To celebrate this amazing contribution to the discussion, I am going to celebrate our multi cultured society by ordering a Chinese Takeaway for lunch. Crispy Duck anyone?

Isn't it funny how the Brexiteers jump on their high horse, when this country is described as small in relation to the new world order. Still living in the days of the British Empire, some people are me thinks.

This week we where relegated to the 6th largest economy in the world, thanks to our weak currency. I mean come on even AW isn't that bad!

:D :D :D :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
I am sure Gunner Rob has a more geographic take on world affairs, and he actually talks sense, so I will not rise to your little dig lol!...
BTW Gunner Rob, I do apologise for shooting from the hip, the Orient is not my favourite destination, but it does not mean ALL... :bowing21:

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:23 pm
by Gunner Rob
Herd wrote:
I wont try and reason with you any longer - the consequences of Brexit will become clear soon enough.
You wern't reasoning you were bieng patronising theres a difference fella !
Morons like you and nut flush will blame Brexit for everything from the economy to genital warts ,it's pathetic and so are you .
btw that wasnt bieng patronising I am insulting you ! :barscarf:
Oh dear :roll: :popcorn:

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:31 pm
by DB10GOONER
Lads, honestly, if the personal insults and name calling don't stop we will lock this thread.

As is the way with political threads/debate every one of you is wrong. And every one of you is right. To varying degrees. :D

Let's just try and respect other people's opinions, huh?

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:08 pm
by nut flush gooner
DB10GOONER wrote:Lads, honestly, if the personal insults and name calling don't stop we will lock this thread.

As is the way with political threads/debate every one of you is wrong. And every one of you is right. To varying degrees. :D

Let's just try and respect other people's opinions, huh?
You can't close the thread down, it would be more catastrophic than closing the Wenger thread down.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

As a quick response to the Herd who suggested falling house prices would be good for our Economy, really?

And do you think the £/$ sitting at $1.24 after it crashed last night in the Asian markets is not anything to do with Brexit, really?

It beggars belief........

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:10 pm
by nut flush gooner
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
flash gunner wrote:

Why will we drift into obscurity? Because you got a bad exchange rate on your holiday money recently? :roll:

Britain is a big country inside or outside of the EU, 'obscurity' my arse :banghead:
Britain is actually just a little island in a huge global market. if it gets poorer you will soon realise this.
I have been to China and when you go there you realise how insignificant we are, and how scary the future could look.
China is a filthy country that cage boil alive and eat dogs if you like it so much you should have stayed there!
Haha I love this thread. when Wenger leaves Arsenal I recogn this is the thread to become the mother of all threads. Brexit evolves in a way that makes any Wenger debate look like small fry,

To celebrate this amazing contribution to the discussion, I am going to celebrate our multi cultured society by ordering a Chinese Takeaway for lunch. Crispy Duck anyone?

Isn't it funny how the Brexiteers jump on their high horse, when this country is described as small in relation to the new world order. Still living in the days of the British Empire, some people are me thinks.

This week we where relegated to the 6th largest economy in the world, thanks to our weak currency. I mean come on even AW isn't that bad!

:D :D :D :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
I am sure Gunner Rob has a more geographic take on world affairs, and he actually talks sense, so I will not rise to your little dig lol!...
BTW Gunner Rob, I do apologise for shooting from the hip, the Orient is not my favourite destination, but it does not mean ALL... :bowing21:
You have shown your true colours today, it makes any debate with you pointless.

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:50 pm
by flash gunner
DB10GOONER wrote:Lads, honestly, if the personal insults and name calling don't stop we will lock this thread.

As is the way with political threads/debate every one of you is wrong. And every one of you is right. To varying degrees. :D

Let's just try and respect other people's opinions, huh?
Oh fuck off!!! :x

:lol: :lol: :wink:

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:54 pm
by flash gunner
nut flush gooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Lads, honestly, if the personal insults and name calling don't stop we will lock this thread.

As is the way with political threads/debate every one of you is wrong. And every one of you is right. To varying degrees. :D

Let's just try and respect other people's opinions, huh?
You can't close the thread down, it would be more catastrophic than closing the Wenger thread down.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

As a quick response to the Herd who suggested falling house prices would be good for our Economy, really?

And do you think the £/$ sitting at $1.24 after it crashed last night in the Asian markets is not anything to do with Brexit, really?

It beggars belief........
Markets go down and Markets go up.. Currency goes down and currency goes up. People make fortunes out of it....

Don't panic Captain Manwaring

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:21 pm
by Herd
Lads, honestly, if the personal insults and name calling don't stop we will lock this thread.
As is the way with political threads/debate every one of you is wrong. And every one of you is right. To varying degrees. :D
Let's just try and respect other people's opinions, huh?
It was meant as a joke ...........................c unt ! :wink: :wink: :wink:
Now if youl excuse me all that talk of boiled dog has got my hunger up Im off down chinatown with missus Herd for some Malaysian makan !

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:48 pm
by nut flush gooner
flash gunner wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Lads, honestly, if the personal insults and name calling don't stop we will lock this thread.

As is the way with political threads/debate every one of you is wrong. And every one of you is right. To varying degrees. :D

Let's just try and respect other people's opinions, huh?
You can't close the thread down, it would be more catastrophic than closing the Wenger thread down.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

As a quick response to the Herd who suggested falling house prices would be good for our Economy, really?

And do you think the £/$ sitting at $1.24 after it crashed last night in the Asian markets is not anything to do with Brexit, really?

It beggars belief........
Markets go down and Markets go up.. Currency goes down and currency goes up. People make fortunes out of it....

Don't panic Captain Manwaring
Do you even understand how markets work? The pound has fallen steadily throughout the year ever since bungling Boris threw his hat into the Brexit ring. 10 years ago the £ was worth $2, it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that given most things we buy are made from raw materials which are priced in yes, dollars ffs. Petrol, Fuel, Food...... nearly everything you consume is affected by our exchange rate and they will go up. That is a given if our exchange rate remains at these levels.

The last time the £ was worth this little was 30 years ago, given the amount the world has changed should we be happy about this? Stop using the word scaremongering and actually educate yourself on the ramifications of what is happening at the moment, even if it is too late.