Official World Cup Thread

[Cockerill's chin]

Sorry topgoon but that is bollocks. Winning does not equate to technique. As a club we have glaring deficiencies but that doesn't mean we should become footballing cyclops and not see a wider picture. When Wimbledon won the FA cup their technique didnt get them their success. When Fat Sam turns us over its not techniue that wins the day.

I'm not delusional about our deficiencies as a club and as a squad. The quality of our football from January onwards was missing. It is good to see that technique won tonight though. Holland tried to kick players out of the game and I'm glad that wasn't rewarded.

I don't know if your post grouped Cesc together with the other Barca slime. If it did then fuck you. Until he goes he is the Arsenal captain. What do you mean let go of the Cesc thing?? Cesc winning tonight could have a positive influence on our dressing room. If he leaves then lets cross that bridge. Grouping him with Barca *word censored* is premature. I'd prefer to be happy for the kid.

[DanielD]

Thank god it's over.

The Barnet game is much more interesting than what I saw tonight.. Finally some real football.

[topgoon]

Got this point off a scum site

Rather ironic that the first time the World Cup is held in Africa, it's won by a country who's attitute to race are... how shall I put it... questionable at best.

Oh well.


and makes you remember the game England played Spain at the Bernabeu and how badly Wright-Phillips and Cashley were treated, makes you wonder why Cashley would want to join up with Mourinho.

[Cockerill's chin]

Italian football has a major issue with race aswell. So does Eastern European. Why bring race into it? It's a disease that some federations need to kick out of their footballing culture. Spain is by no means the only one.

[topgoon]

Sorry topgoon but that is bollocks. Winning does not equate to technique. As a club we have glaring deficiencies but that doesn't mean we should become footballing cyclops and not see a wider picture. When Wimbledon won the FA cup their technique didnt get them their success. When Fat Sam turns us over its not techniue that wins the day.

I'm not delusional about our deficiencies as a club and as a squad. The quality of our football from January onwards was missing. It is good to see that technique won tonight though. Holland tried to kick players out of the game and I'm glad that wasn't rewarded.

I don't know if your post grouped Cesc together with the other Barca slime. If it did then fuck you. Until he goes he is the Arsenal captain. What do you mean let go of the Cesc thing?? Cesc winning tonight could have a positive influence on our dressing room. If he leaves then lets cross that bridge. Grouping him with Barca c**ts is premature. I'd prefer to be happy for the kid.

This is what annoys me about some of the posters on this forum, a difference of opinion is a difference of opinion. Telling me F**k you doesn't alter my position..actually far from it.
I do group him with Barca players because until he comes out and says any different, the only thing stopping him from being a Barca player is our board pure and simple.
You are sadly still missing the point regardless of your pointless insult. It's technique and a style when you win it's thuggery or tippy tappy when you lose.

Henry was our captain when he left, Vieira was our captain when he left. The last Arsenal captain that deserved unswerving loyalty is long gone. If a player wants to leave, I don't see the point anymore in sycophantically holding on to his boot laces.

Get the money and get rid...End Off

[topgoon]

Italian football has a major issue with race aswell. So does Eastern European. Why bring race into it? It's a disease that some federations need to kick out of their footballing culture. Spain is by no means the only one.

Just making a point that I thought was interesting ..is that ok or has this stopped being a forum and become an agree with Cockerill's chin or else site

[Nick Bendtners Ego]

Overall , Justice has been done with the Result .
How unfair would it have been if players of moderate means kicked and intimidated their way to the trophy whilst Dutch legends of the caliber of
Cryuff , Neeskens , Haan to name but a few had but a silver medal to show .
Let's not forget that it's not so long in the distant past that we were accused
of winning ugly but its a measure of our football evolution that we're talked in the same breath as Barca in footballing terms . The same can't be said of
Holland who in 'the Beautiful game ' stakes at least , have regressed and tainted their 'Total Football Credentials ' with aspects of football generally
associated with the old Wimbledon FC or Pulis mentality .
Kudos to a team working to the best of their abilities or within limitations but
Holland are capable of better than what they came up with tonight .

[topgoon]

Think Holland went to the World cup with the right system but the wrong players to implement it. Rvp up front on his own will only work against the shittest defenders, he got more effective when he dropped deeper to get the ball or drifted wide and Robben went central.

Their style was calling for a player who could hold the ball up and physically deal with the attentions of Puyol.

They may have deserved the victory...just... but still can't stand the attitude of their Barca players towards our club

[flash gunner]

I know it wasn't the greatest WC ever, but why does everyone just feel the need to knock this WC. I think it was better/on par with Germany 2006 and way better than Korea 2002

Only saying it how i see it Mega. i think barring a few games its been very negative and i think the cooler weather has enhanced the pressing that teams can do or more importantly has allowed them to continue it over 90 mins. I can honestly say i cant remember a worse world cup

1994 most have completely skipped your memory then.

1994 was an excellent world cup (final aside) there were goals flying in all over the place and shocks too like Bulgaria and Romania having good runs

Like with everything else you remeber the final more than the preliminaries. The final stunk the place out.

Im looking at the whole of the tournaments not just the finals

[flash gunner]

Shit World Cup finished with a shit final

One good thing came out of it Howard Webb was shite too

I know it wasn't the greatest WC ever, but why does everyone just feel the need to knock this WC. I think it was better/on par with Germany 2006 and way better than Korea 2002

Only saying it how i see it Mega. i think barring a few games its been very negative and i think the cooler weather has enhanced the pressing that teams can do or more importantly has allowed them to continue it over 90 mins. I can honestly say i cant remember a worse world cup

I have to disagree Flash...the winter weather is "partly cloudly with rain/ heavy rain". I live in SA and had to work through the night on monday night(5 July) and since it's supposed to be the middle of winter, I went kitted out. I ended up working outside on a generator at 3 in the morning with just a T shirt on, the lowest temp that night was 19 degrees.South Africa doesn't get the cold horrible european weather.

Maybe thats not the reason then Mega doesnt change my mind that it was a bad world cup

[MegaGooner]

Shit World Cup finished with a shit final

One good thing came out of it Howard Webb was shite too

I know it wasn't the greatest WC ever, but why does everyone just feel the need to knock this WC. I think it was better/on par with Germany 2006 and way better than Korea 2002

Only saying it how i see it Mega. i think barring a few games its been very negative and i think the cooler weather has enhanced the pressing that teams can do or more importantly has allowed them to continue it over 90 mins. I can honestly say i cant remember a worse world cup

I have to disagree Flash...the winter weather is "partly cloudly with rain/ heavy rain". I live in SA and had to work through the night on monday night(5 July) and since it's supposed to be the middle of winter, I went kitted out. I ended up working outside on a generator at 3 in the morning with just a T shirt on, the lowest temp that night was 19 degrees.South Africa doesn't get the cold horrible european weather.

Maybe thats not the reason then Mega doesnt change my mind that it was a bad world cup

I've had my fair share of alcohol Flash, but I have to admit, except for the first round, this WC had everything exciting and showed what Africa can show the world...

[Nick Bendtners Ego]

See the Golden Ball top two are ;
1. Forlan
2. Villa

With Mueller the young player of the Tournament .

Seems spot on for me , hugely impressed by Forlan , a player who only
seems to be peaking now . Betcha ol' Red Nose still regrets his lack of patience to this day .

[Red Gunner]

See the Golden Ball top two are:
1. Forlan
2. Villa

With Mueller the young player of the tournament.

Seems spot on for me, hugely impressed by Forlan, a player who only seems to be peaking now. Betcha ol' Red Nose still regrets his lack of patience to this day.

Nice to see a player from a smaller country win the Golden Ball. I believe Mueller could have been a contender for the best player in the tournament, let alone the young one.

[USMartin]

Its a shame this was the Final matchup - not because these weren't two very good teams but given that both were playing for their first World Cup and had already shown increasing pragmatism as they moved deeper in the tournament despite wonderful attacking talent the only surprise to me was that it didn't finish 0-0 after 120 minutes and get settled by penalties. Neither team wanted to lose for me more than either really wanted to win. Spain was more positive though and just about deserved it in the end.

This could have been a wonderful match had some sort of goal been scored early particularly by Spain to force a more adventurous game by the Dutch. Even an early dutch goal would have forced Spain to be more aggressive and less pass-happy.

Lacking this Holland-Germany or even Spain-Uruguay would have been better more entertaining matchups - though either could have produced even more havoc and cards then today did.

[SammyDroppedHisShorts]

Two points

1. Smaller country? Uruguay have won it all twice!!

2. Spain won the World Cup in the 87th minute of the game with the best substitution possible.....well done Cesc regardless of where you play next season.