THE WENGER THREAD

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Re: WENGER - Views For and Against.

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rodders999 wrote:I haven't the stomach for 2 and a half more years of this, I hosnestly don't. I'm at an all time low with my feelings towards the manager and I can't go on living like this. I allow football and Arsenal to shape my life and it's not on to those around me anymore.

Last season I stupidly believed was his last, so even after every debacle, every hammering I saw a light at the end of the tunnel. Now all I see is darkness and despair. I can't walk away from it but I can't go on with it either. What can I do? :banghead:

I know Exactly How You feel Rodders!...It Cannot Go Continue....I didn’t think I could be made to feel any more miserable about the state of our club and the utter ineptitude of our manager, but last night was a new low for me, it was embarrassing, completely and wholly unnecessary and without question yet another dark mark on the club we all care about and love. It truly has reached the point where just seeing him and hearing his voice gets me angry.

After last night’s abysmal display of a half-hearted attempt to play as a team I honestly believe that the only way those of us who genuinely want “Wenger Out” will have to take matters into our own hands, [sorry Augie but the idea of us having a whip round for a Hit Man, though very imaginative on your part and whilst appealing isn’t feasible.]

So, we have to use all legal and reasonable means to get him out.
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Inundating the Club and The Man Himself day after day with letters calling for his resignation, phoning the various radio football programmes so that it gets to the point where every other caller is a voice of opposition to his tenure as manager, and of course protesting in person outside and inside the ground/s both home and away. [Who’s got THE Banner?] And of course there’s the rub, anyone voicing or demonstrating opposition to this very comfy and very profitable status quo, faces being ejected from the ground, perhaps even being banned, as well as threats and acts of violence from the sheeple who blind and stupid beyond belief are willing to allow this charade continue without a murmur of descent, it is obscene and so if we are serious about getting him out – rather than wait THREE YEARS! [jeeeesus I cannot bear it!] we need to organise and ACT!, but do so in a manner where we state clearly and concisely our reasons why:

We have a world class player in Mezut Ozil – regardless of what some may think of his commitment and contribution on the pitch, he is Class, just as are Alexis Sanchez. But it is crystal clear that he is not happy being played on the flanks – no surprises there then – as our manager thinks he can play an individual regardless of their ability and speciality. The thing this isn’t the first time we have had a player with top credentials come to the club during Wenger’s tenure as manager – and for that player to be played totally out of position and against their natural placing and ability.

Wenger's lack of tactical knowledge and his inability to be able to ‘change a game’ by means of tactics; change of formation, change of personnel etc on the pitch is inexcusable.

You can set your watch by the timing of his substitutions, IF he deems to make any – and that as always is far too late to affect the situation on the pitch. Had he made the necessary and obvious substitutions after we went into the lead against $hitty we could have secured all 3 points, but he seems incapable of grasping even the most simple of tactical notions.

He continually buys players of a kind – physically small, albeit gifted and skilled players, who he not only then plays out of their natural and preferred position, but they end up being bullied and physically out-muscled by teams who though far less skilled and able, end up being able to beat us.

He refuses to acknowledge the deficiencies in both the squad and in himself.
At the end of last season, we needed a Striker, a Defensive Mid-fielder and at least one centre back, he then let’s Vermaelen go, and his solution is to sign Chambers, indeed a young player with much, but as yet unproven potential, who due to Wenger’s not buying adequate cover for the back line may now be forced to play at Right Back due to Debuchy’s long term injury, a long term injury that if going by previous seasons the team were bound to encounter at some point during this season.
He has not attended to the most vital of our deficiencies that of a Holding Mid-Fielder – and that lack of managerial duties in the transfer market came home to roost last night, when we were overrun because the player he has as both our holding mid-fielder and captain – is too old
How is that other top managers have a team of coaches to ‘coach’ the players and the attack, mid-field and defence of their team, during his last 7 years at manure rednose employed coaches specifically expert in those fields. But not Wenger he insists on over seeing every aspect of the team and club, to the point where it has become like a despotic business, even the board seem fully aware of what he is doing, but because the profit increases year after year (at the cost of the fans who have to bear the burden of ticket price increases whilst having to watch the name and reputation of their club erode before their very eyes).
There are numerous other reasons and examples of his inability and ineptitude as a manager, and yet here he is still managing our club long, long after he should have been replaced.

So who’s serious about getting shot of him???

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if there is a protest before each home game then that would be a start - and I think momentum would build.
I would definitely be willing to join in with that.

I understand that season ticket holders find it hard to let go and if you are a season ticket holder you should turn up to every game. However for those of us who are not season ticket holders I think a boycott of certain matches should be called for. I already boycott category A games and I think others should do the same as the other issue at the club is the high ticket prices. Ok kep them high if you are buying the best players in the world, but Sanchez and Ozil apart we really are not doing this.

anyone got other ideas?

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It is Not solely about the money, it IS about the manager - He no longer cuts it and time for him to bow out gracefully or leave a despised man. he had his chance after the (lucky) FA Cup Win, but no he has carved himself a very nice niche - where as long as we deliver a very decent profit to Wiggy and finish somewhere near the upper echeolons then Wenger will be kept at the helm. Wiggy bought the shares for One Reason and One Reason Only - To make a Profit - he carse not a shyte whether trophies are attained - as long as the money keeps pouring through the door, he will sit back and count it and f*ck anyone who dares mess with that scenario.

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pointless thread.

the poor performances against Wigan, Hull, Palace, Leicester, Besiktas and BVB were NOTHING to do with money.

until usmanov says "wiggy, lazy ivan, dick, wonga all out and I want to be top 2, last four every year " then throwing cash at us is pointless.

if we were a building we'd have structural problems from the foundation up, not just need a shiny coat of paint on the outside.

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Gunner Rob wrote:if there is a protest before each home game then that would be a start - and I think momentum would build.
I would definitely be willing to join in with that.

I understand that season ticket holders find it hard to let go and if you are a season ticket holder you should turn up to every game. However for those of us who are not season ticket holders I think a boycott of certain matches should be called for. I already boycott category A games and I think others should do the same as the other issue at the club is the high ticket prices. Ok kep them high if you are buying the best players in the world, but Sanchez and Ozil apart we really are not doing this.

anyone got other ideas?
After last nights game, there wasn't one comment on Twitter, from AKB'S, even attempting to defend Wenger, but today they crawl out of the woodwork, talking about getting behind the team, and telling fans that don't like it, to support City, or Spurs. These people are so pathetic that they will defend Wenger, no matter how bad things get, and these people are the reason that Wenger will never be sacked.

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Re: The only way Arsenal will be able to compete

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We have enough money to not be getting dicked in Europe and the Premier league. If Usmanov wants to buy the club,he offers Syrupy Stan a cash offer that even he wont be able to refuse.

We need a change of manager and have done since 07/08 when the world and his wife realised thatched was no longer capable of motivating talented players to get themselves over the winning line.

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Image

:roll: :roll:

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my only hope is somehow wenger leaves himself with no ammunition - he has a million excuses all the time. we need to lose on a consistant basis and to be sitting 6th/7th in December and staying 3rd or 4th in the CL.

our run of games is :

Villa - A
Sperm - H
Chavs - A

then

Hull - H
Sunderland - A
Burnley - H
Swansea - A

which if we only pick up 1 point in the first three, and 6 from the next 4, is achievable i think.

the Hull and Burnley games are crucial if wenger is to go - we have to fail to win those.....

sad its come to this but :banghead:

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Way wide of the mark.
There is not a hope in hells chance of Wenger leaving until he is good and ready, regardless of results, no one in football walks away from a multi million pound contract.... ever.
What happened at United with the David Moyes catastrophe means Arsenal will hold to him as long as they can.
It cemented his position, the board would rather we were assured of 4th spot than take any risk on a Moyes like meltdown.

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franksav63 wrote:Image

:roll: :roll:
Arse n' nose?

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When any of our players (many of them legends of the club) passed 30, Wenger declared them pretty much damaged goods and would only offer them one year rolling contarcts to remain. Oh how I wish the same criteria was applied to him and we could get shot of him at a moments notice. One rule for him and one rule for the rest as per F'n usual :banghead:

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rodders999 wrote:When any of our players (many of them legends of the club) passed 30, Wenger declared them pretty much damaged goods and would only offer them one year rolling contarcts to remain. Oh how I wish the same criteria was applied to him and we could get shot of him at a moments notice. One rule for him and one rule for the rest as per F'n usual :banghead:
no top level manager has ever won more after 55 than before it.

I pity those that think the Cup Win was a new dawn. including wenger.

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BFG4 wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:if there is a protest before each home game then that would be a start - and I think momentum would build.
I would definitely be willing to join in with that.

I understand that season ticket holders find it hard to let go and if you are a season ticket holder you should turn up to every game. However for those of us who are not season ticket holders I think a boycott of certain matches should be called for. I already boycott category A games and I think others should do the same as the other issue at the club is the high ticket prices. Ok kep them high if you are buying the best players in the world, but Sanchez and Ozil apart we really are not doing this.

anyone got other ideas?
After last nights game, there wasn't one comment on Twitter, from AKB'S, even attempting to defend Wenger, but today they crawl out of the woodwork, talking about getting behind the team, and telling fans that don't like it, to support City, or Spurs. These people are so pathetic that they will defend Wenger, no matter how bad things get, and these people are the reason that Wenger will never be sacked.
I've seen the exact opposite in some other Arsenal forums. Plenty of former Wenger apologists who have now finally realised where up shit creek with the fraud in charge citing lack of excuses as the main reason.

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WENGER OUT anyone ?

Ad infinitum.

Yawn.












WENGER OUT

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The BBC wrote:It's raining goals in Rome where Roma are now 4-0 up against CSKA Moscow, Gervinho helping himself to two of them. The former Arsenal man has scored as many goals in one Champions League game for the Serie A club as he did in 11 matches for the Gunners.
wonder why he couldnt finish for us, can any of his woes be placed on wenger? How many players now, have left and seemingly gotten better? or am i just piling on? :banghead:

wenger out...yesterday!

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