THE WENGER THREAD

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SSN "New Alert" Arsene Wenger Coming Up.....

Thought for a millisecond that this was going to be his resignation news conference, damn you sky sports :roll: :lol:

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augie wrote:
1989 wrote:Winning the FA Cup is the worst thing that could have happened to this club. It just extended the misery under this dinosaur.


Pre season confidence gone already buddy ?? :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:

Somebody seems to mixing his adhd tablets with E's every now and then.

There is a new drug on the market, 50% Viagra and 50% prozac, the beauty of the new drug is "if you don't get a fuck you don't give a fuck" :lol:

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Mesut Özil must not be used as a “scapegoat” for Arsenal’s shortcomings, manager Arsène Wenger has insisted.
Im not sure about anyone else, but i believe Ozil isnt a scapegoat of any kind....but the gaurdian article had no mention of him being played woefully out of position. Sometimes i wish just one journo would grow a pair and lay into him!!

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looking at the Wenger quotes from his press conference this morning he really does appear to have lost the plot!
Taken from the official website he says about tactics:

"It's difficult for me to explain all the tactical changes but not a lot has changed" :lol: :lol: :lol: :banghead:

on defending:
"We have a lot of offensive players, with Ozil, Wilshere and Ramsey - and even Arteta when he plays is initially an offensive player. To find the balance we have as well to defend and I think we have to find a balance between attacking and defending"

so even Arteta who he plays as our first choice DM is in the eyes of Wenger an offensive player :oops:
how is the imbecile going to find a balance between attacking and defending when he fails to buy any defensive players!!!! :banghead:

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What would you be willing to sacrifice in order to rid the club of Wenger? I'd be willing to forego my left ball bag 8)

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rodders999 wrote:What would you be willing to sacrifice in order to rid the club of Wenger? I'd be willing to forego my left ball bag 8)
How many ball bags you got? :shock: :shock: :shock: :D

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rodders999 wrote:What would you be willing to sacrifice in order to rid the club of Wenger? I'd be willing to forego my left ball bag 8)

That is just plain Nuts! :lol:

Can't we just tell some Jihadists that Wenger is the New Prophet and see what happens? :D

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xgtdec wrote:
Mesut Özil must not be used as a “scapegoat” for Arsenal’s shortcomings, manager Arsène Wenger has insisted.
Im not sure about anyone else, but i believe Ozil isnt a scapegoat of any kind....but the gaurdian article had no mention of him being played woefully out of position. Sometimes i wish just one journo would grow a pair and lay into him!!
being played out of position is no excuse for being LAZY.

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Humoresque wrote:
xgtdec wrote:
Mesut Özil must not be used as a “scapegoat” for Arsenal’s shortcomings, manager Arsène Wenger has insisted.
Im not sure about anyone else, but i believe Ozil isnt a scapegoat of any kind....but the gaurdian article had no mention of him being played woefully out of position. Sometimes i wish just one journo would grow a pair and lay into him!!
being played out of position is no excuse for being LAZY.
I for one don't think its about him being lazy,same as Arshavin same as countless others that Wenker plays where he seems to think they fit but clearly don't,its about not being allowed to do the job you were bought to do but one that Wenker has given you,how can you expect anybody to be happy or even perform out of position,players have postions on a pitch for a reason,if they didn't it would be a free for all.as frustrating as ozil is I for one will back him and I think this business about him playing out of position plus our alarming lack of tactics may bring the long awaited fall of Lord Wenker,PLEASE!!!

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Humoresque wrote:
xgtdec wrote:
Mesut Özil must not be used as a “scapegoat” for Arsenal’s shortcomings, manager Arsène Wenger has insisted.
Im not sure about anyone else, but i believe Ozil isnt a scapegoat of any kind....but the gaurdian article had no mention of him being played woefully out of position. Sometimes i wish just one journo would grow a pair and lay into him!!
being played out of position is no excuse for being LAZY.
Lazy...or unmotivated....he was prob told he was going to be the number 10 and would run the show...now he's shunted out to the wing cause wengers too stubborn and stupid to assess his squad and tactics accordingly. I dont blame Ozil one bit..he's pissed off and he's letting wenger know it the only way he can.....so i back him 100%

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armchair wrote:Cant complain about a day out at Wemberlee and a real trophy in the cabinet at last. Its what weve been crying out for for years. Thought it would have been the springboard and tastd of success our club needed to push on and become a force again.
Unfortunately Wenger is holding us back, the whole club, selling everyone short with his ego trip and stubbornness.
Afraid the FA Cup win bought Wenger a new lucrative contract, lifted the monkey from our backs but masked the fact (from some) that all his flaws and failings still stink the whole club out.
This is similiar to my thoughts. Winning the cup was a brilliant day, It had been a long time since our last trophy and far too long, I loved everything about the day (except the first 15 mins!) and I assumed it would be the moment where everything turned around, where Wenger would use the summer to treat the problems in our squad and we would push on for the major honours. When we brought in Sanchez it was amazing, evn though it wasn't what was strictly required in terms of improving the squad, you don't turn your nose up at an incredible player like that, assuming the needed requirements are also brought in.

Unfortunately the capitulation in Dortmund has really convinced me that nothing has changed. Tactics (or almost complete lack of) are the same, the game plan, even the excuses. This could well be the season where the luck runs out and we don't make top four, but then that wouldn't spell the end of Wenger, the board would see him as the man to get us back in there, and it could only get worse from then on. A legacy tarnished, but then for some it already is.

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markyp wrote:
Humoresque wrote:
xgtdec wrote:
Mesut Özil must not be used as a “scapegoat” for Arsenal’s shortcomings, manager Arsène Wenger has insisted.
Im not sure about anyone else, but i believe Ozil isnt a scapegoat of any kind....but the gaurdian article had no mention of him being played woefully out of position. Sometimes i wish just one journo would grow a pair and lay into him!!
being played out of position is no excuse for being LAZY.
I for one don't think its about him being lazy,same as Arshavin same as countless others that Wenker plays where he seems to think they fit but clearly don't,its about not being allowed to do the job you were bought to do but one that Wenker has given you,how can you expect anybody to be happy or even perform out of position,players have postions on a pitch for a reason,if they didn't it would be a free for all.as frustrating as ozil is I for one will back him and I think this business about him playing out of position plus our alarming lack of tactics may bring the long awaited fall of Lord Wenker,PLEASE!!!
Its a crafty trick to deflect the flak from himself, my twitter feed had more Wenger abuse than Ozil, but maybe that's because I follow like minded souls.
Over blow the story that the defeat was all Ozil's fault and then absolve him. I hope it fools no one.
Play the man where he is best suited if you want the best out of him.

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Humoresque wrote:
xgtdec wrote:
Mesut Özil must not be used as a “scapegoat” for Arsenal’s shortcomings, manager Arsène Wenger has insisted.
Im not sure about anyone else, but i believe Ozil isnt a scapegoat of any kind....but the gaurdian article had no mention of him being played woefully out of position. Sometimes i wish just one journo would grow a pair and lay into him!!
being played out of position is no excuse for being LAZY.
his heat track against city was one of the best.

which means he did a lot of running off the ball, but never received it. wrong tactics, wrong position.

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clockender1 wrote:
Humoresque wrote:
xgtdec wrote:
Mesut Özil must not be used as a “scapegoat” for Arsenal’s shortcomings, manager Arsène Wenger has insisted.
Im not sure about anyone else, but i believe Ozil isnt a scapegoat of any kind....but the gaurdian article had no mention of him being played woefully out of position. Sometimes i wish just one journo would grow a pair and lay into him!!
being played out of position is no excuse for being LAZY.
his heat track against city was one of the best.

which means he did a lot of running off the ball, but never received it. wrong tactics, wrong position.

I'm talking about , in particular, tracking back. Watch some other highly valuable players. I was watching di Maria make his debut and saw him in the latter stages right in front of his defense to help out. Messi and Barca have been known for their press. Even Rooney will work way back deep.

I see other stars and big players helping out and so can he. I agree, he's not being utilized to his best but still, if it's good enough for Messi.....

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So Arsenal's wage bill has gone above the Chavs for the first time in 10 years! Criminal!! When you look at the squads, you have to ask what the hell are we paying 'average' players at Arsenal......but it's no surprise when we were supposedly paying the likes of Barry Bender 50+k a week. Well done Wonga.

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