THE WENGER THREAD

[Bradywasking]

Reading quotes attributed to Wenger on today's Mail on Line regarding Evra's successful attempt to get Jack sent off. If true they confirm what was already beyond confirmation...this man is an embarrassment to our great club. I despise Evra more than most players because he is an arrogant pig but Jack caught him and Jack knew it and Jack barely complained.
Wenger's comments are as embarrassing and as tiresome as Hillwood's.

[DB10GOONER]

Reading quotes attributed to Wenger on today's Mail on Line regarding Evra's successful attempt to get Jack sent off. If true they confirm what was already beyond confirmation...this man is an embarrassment to our great club. I despise Evra more than most players because he is an arrogant pig but Jack caught him and Jack knew it and Jack barely complained.
Wenger's comments are as embarrassing and as tiresome as Hillwood's.

Agreed the comments are embarrassing, but tbh it was a soft sending off; first one was a booking IMHO but the one on EvraCuntra? He got the ball first. Deffo a foul but NEVER a booking - he wasn't out of control, he wasn't way over the top, he wasn't going in with both feet and he didn't hurt Cuntra. And a decent ref, with any understanding of the game, would have taken him aside and said "that's it son, your last one, one more and you're off". I also don't blame Cuntra tbh - he was caught, it was a foul.

But then it's something Jack will have to learn from; a shit ref like Mike Dean reffing at Old Shatford? Don't over commit in any tackle... Unless you are called Carrick or Cleverley... in which case you don't get the second booking. Both committed enough cynical fouls to warrant two bookings each (if Jack's second was a booking-worthy offence). And no I'm not being bitter and whining about a "cheating" ref unduly or any of that old bollocks.

My point is if you let some of them go, you should let ALL of them go. Consistency is all I want.

[begeegs]

Got very annoyed by this portion of a blog that I am losing respect for. The man is getting handouts from Arsenal, so he is quite unlikely to call for Wenger out, but this is beyond ridiculous...

I’ve seen calls for changes in formation, a return to 4-4-2, perhaps, something which seemed to serve us well against Reading.

I’m not convinced it’s the system that’s the problem though – it’s not an issue when the team clicks and does well. Nor am I convinced we really have the players for a 4-4-2. I think it requires a more physical presence in the centre of midfield than we possess and the players who might play wide don’t convince. That said, with everyone fit a team like: Szczesny – Sagna – Mertesacker – Koscielny – Gibbs – Podolski – Arteta – Wilshere – Oxlade-Chamberlain – Cazorla – Giroud could be quite tasty, with Cazorla as the traditional number 10 behind the main striker.

You have got to be fucking kidding me!??! When was the last time that we clicked well even when almost all of those players were fit (bar Wilshire). I love the Ox, but should he even be in our starting 11? (ideally we should have someone better). This is a weaker starting 11 than I have seen in many years.

The problem with this is that he is by far, the most popular blogger around with a bunch of sycophants lapping up his every word and repeating it. Most of the time, he can be pretty objective, but this one takes the biscuit.

Ok - What has this to do with Wenger? Well - people read this and lap it up on a daily basis and being the most influential blog around, it certainly will tell people how they should be thinking. Until the worm turns, and bloggers like this change their opinion, we aren't likely to see much change in the mindset of Gooners. Perhaps we should hire Anonymous http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29to take his site out

[DB10GOONER]

Got very annoyed by this portion of a blog that I am losing respect for. The man is getting handouts from Arsenal, so he is quite unlikely to call for Wenger out, but this is beyond ridiculous...

I’ve seen calls for changes in formation, a return to 4-4-2, perhaps, something which seemed to serve us well against Reading.

I’m not convinced it’s the system that’s the problem though – it’s not an issue when the team clicks and does well. Nor am I convinced we really have the players for a 4-4-2. I think it requires a more physical presence in the centre of midfield than we possess and the players who might play wide don’t convince. That said, with everyone fit a team like: Szczesny – Sagna – Mertesacker – Koscielny – Gibbs – Podolski – Arteta – Wilshere – Oxlade-Chamberlain – Cazorla – Giroud could be quite tasty, with Cazorla as the traditional number 10 behind the main striker.

You have got to be fucking kidding me!??! When was the last time that we clicked well even when almost all of those players were fit (bar Wilshire). I love the Ox, but should he even be in our starting 11? (ideally we should have someone better). This is a weaker starting 11 than I have seen in many years.

The problem with this is that he is by far, the most popular blogger around with a bunch of sycophants lapping up his every word and repeating it. Most of the time, he can be pretty objective, but this one takes the biscuit.

Ok - What has this to do with Wenger? Well - people read this and lap it up on a daily basis and being the most influential blog around, it certainly will tell people how they should be thinking. Until the worm turns, and bloggers like this change their opinion, we aren't likely to see much change in the mindset of Gooners. Perhaps we should hire Anonymous http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29to take his site out

That's why I don't read blogs. It's just some punter giving his opinion. What makes his opinion any more valid than any other punter? Problem with modern society is too many sheep.

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[highburyJD]

Don't understand your probs with blogs, its just some dudes opinion
I don't give it any more or less credence than the tabloid hacks
there's always a chance any and every writer is making things up or has an agenda

Don't believe everything you read, no matter where you read it
Not sure why that particular column was picked out though,
looks like some innocuous chat about formations

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[gunner_ace]

If this dodgy run continues (which I cant reason any reason for it not to) then I realistically think that 'wenger out' chants are only 2 or 3 games away judging by the current mood (would most definitly happen at an away game). I think when they're heard for the 1st time then that will hopefully accelerate the begining of the end for the nutty professor.

I will be interested to see what the general fanbases reaction would be when this day in the near future comes about.

[flash gunner]

If this dodgy run continues (which I cant reason any reason for it not to) then I realistically think that 'wenger out' chants are only 2 or 3 games away judging by the current mood (would most definitly happen at an away game). I think when they're heard for the 1st time then that will hopefully accelerate the begining of the end for the nutty professor.

I will be interested to see what the general fanbases reaction would be when this day in the near future comes about.

Wenger will scrape through like he does every season doing just enough to appease the AKB sheep. We will win the next game and the mindless 's will forget old trafford.

[northbank123]

If this dodgy run continues (which I cant reason any reason for it not to) then I realistically think that 'wenger out' chants are only 2 or 3 games away judging by the current mood (would most definitly happen at an away game). I think when they're heard for the 1st time then that will hopefully accelerate the begining of the end for the nutty professor.

I will be interested to see what the general fanbases reaction would be when this day in the near future comes about.

Wenger will scrape through like he does every season doing just enough to appease the AKB sheep. We will win the next game and the mindless 's will forget old trafford.

We'll stave off Spurs and Everton and finish 4th again and then hear about how great a recovery it was from losing our captain and star player and people will be astonished as to how Wenger has delivered (virtual) silverware yet again on a shoestring budget.

[flash gunner]

If this dodgy run continues (which I cant reason any reason for it not to) then I realistically think that 'wenger out' chants are only 2 or 3 games away judging by the current mood (would most definitly happen at an away game). I think when they're heard for the 1st time then that will hopefully accelerate the begining of the end for the nutty professor.

I will be interested to see what the general fanbases reaction would be when this day in the near future comes about.

Wenger will scrape through like he does every season doing just enough to appease the AKB sheep. We will win the next game and the mindless 's will forget old trafford.

We'll stave off Spurs and Everton and finish 4th again and then hear about how great a recovery it was from losing our captain and star player and people will be astonished as to how Wenger has delivered (virtual) silverware yet again on a shoestring budget.

Exactly mate and its like congratulating a murderer after he revives a victim

[goonersid]

If this dodgy run continues (which I cant reason any reason for it not to) then I realistically think that 'wenger out' chants are only 2 or 3 games away judging by the current mood (would most definitly happen at an away game). I think when they're heard for the 1st time then that will hopefully accelerate the begining of the end for the nutty professor.

I will be interested to see what the general fanbases reaction would be when this day in the near future comes about.

Wenger will scrape through like he does every season doing just enough to appease the AKB sheep. We will win the next game and the mindless 's will forget old trafford.

We'll stave off Spurs and Everton and finish 4th again and then hear about how great a recovery it was from losing our captain and star player and people will be astonished as to how Wenger has delivered (virtual) silverware yet again on a shoestring budget.

Exactly mate and its like congratulating a murderer after he revives a victim

I think you are all wrong, Wenger can't keep scraping 4th spot, I honestly think we look weaker (in terms of confidence and performances) now than we ever have. This WILL be the year when we don't make 4th.
Everton and the spuds (despite sat result) look to have more mettle than us, and if the victims can stay in touch until January and make few signings then they too will challenge.

[northbank123]

What mettle do Spurs have? AVB hardly inspired at Chelsea and the fans haven't taken to him at all. Apart from their anomaly at OT they've taken 2 points from Norwich, West Brom and Wigan at home and struggled past QPR and Villa, as well as being comprehensively beaten by the Chavs. They nearly managed to gift relegation fodder Saints a point and lost at the Barcodes on the road, and so far they've failed to win in Europe against some piss-poor opposition and crashed out the LC despite playing very strong line-ups in both. They've also conceded 8 more league goals than us and are looking significantly worse than last year.

Agree that Everton have more grit about them but then I reckon they seriously lack the quality that we have. I know we have some absolute dross but Osman, Neville and co in midfield hardly stack up to Arteta, Cazorla and Wilshere.

[ThomasMitchell]

Arsenal nowdays in nothing else but CULT and Wenger is its leader. That much is clear to see to anyone visiting Emirates. His third rate philosophy is scribbled everywhere inside stadium, on the walls, on the fucking banners...his face is everwhere, on the walls, on the fucking banners....every criticism of Wenger and his players is not acceptable inside Emirates and that's why nowdays homecrowd greatly resembles 50 000+ Wengers CULT followers, and few who can still see clearly will soon be replaced by brainwashed, I'm afraid.

Absolutely correct in every word - and how depressing it all is. Please get this man out of our Club now.

[goonersid]

What mettle do Spurs have? AVB hardly inspired at Chelsea and the fans haven't taken to him at all. Apart from their anomaly at OT they've taken 2 points from Norwich, West Brom and Wigan at home and struggled past QPR and Villa, as well as being comprehensively beaten by the Chavs. They nearly managed to gift relegation fodder Saints a point and lost at the Barcodes on the road, and so far they've failed to win in Europe against some piss-poor opposition and crashed out the LC despite playing very strong line-ups in both. They've also conceded 8 more league goals than us and are looking significantly worse than last year.

Agree that Everton have more grit about them but then I reckon they seriously lack the quality that we have. I know we have some absolute dross but Osman, Neville and co in midfield hardly stack up to Arteta, Cazorla and Wilshere.

Both sides are above us in the league, and the Chavs spuds game was a lot closer than the scoreline suggested. As for our midfield it has been nullified in the last 3 lge games by using simple tactics, I have no doubt that Osman, Neville and if the co you are referring to is the excellent Fellaini, can under the guidance of Moyes do a similar job on Arteta Carzola and Willshire.
I also think that since Willshire's return we actually look worse, I don't think he and Carzola can play together, and this combined with Wenger's insistance on playing the fucking godawful Ramsey every week, I fear we will continue to struggle against the most mediocre of opposition.