THE WENGER THREAD

[SouthCoastArsenal]

I went today - no murmurings of discontent from the masses but every conversation was about his inabilities.

I was caning him very very loudly - not 1 person willing to pop back. Even the AKB's have run out of excuses. It is so obvious we need a change

So fucking depressing that it won't change

[SteveO 35]

This is a business, in which the board care only about profits, and couldn't care less about on field success.

Members of the board do want on the pitch success, but they have to slowly chip away at Wenger's power.

Because Wenger has the backing of the owner.

They want a top 4 finish to ensure those corporate boxes are sold out for CL nights and to ensure the £25m prize money comes their way. The FA Cup earned us £2m - did Kroenke even go to Wembley ?

Not my point.
They want the title.
But whilst Kroenke backs Wenger they have to pick their battles.

Top four finish does not guarantee sold out boxes, fair few empty boxes and club level seats even on Champions League nights.

Kroenke went to Wembley.

Quartz, I'm sure that Burnley want the title as well. The fact is that Kroenke has not done anything to suggest that he wants to invest anywhere near enough money to go for the title and the financial difference between 1st and 4th is about £2m-£3m in terms of prize money.....so he won't spend that extra £50m or so that is needed.

Top four ensures big prize money and also for those corporates who buy the boxes before the season starts the lure of CL football is what its all about. The company I used to work recently bought tickets at the Etihad purely to take large clients to the champions league games - they couldn't give a fuck about City before they were in the competition, and they won't again if they return to their former depths

[QuartzGooner]

This is a business, in which the board care only about profits, and couldn't care less about on field success.

Members of the board do want on the pitch success, but they have to slowly chip away at Wenger's power.

Because Wenger has the backing of the owner.

They want a top 4 finish to ensure those corporate boxes are sold out for CL nights and to ensure the £25m prize money comes their way. The FA Cup earned us £2m - did Kroenke even go to Wembley ?

Not my point.
They want the title.
But whilst Kroenke backs Wenger they have to pick their battles.

Top four finish does not guarantee sold out boxes, fair few empty boxes and club level seats even on Champions League nights.

Kroenke went to Wembley.

The fact is that Kroenke has not done anything to suggest that he wants to invest anywhere near enough money to go for the title and the financial difference between 1st and 4th is about £2m-£3m in terms of prize money.....so he won't spend that extra £50m or so that is needed.

Top four ensures big prize money and also for those corporates who buy the boxes before the season starts the lure of CL football is what its all about.

I did not say that Kroenke was determined to win the title.
I wrote that there are board members who want the title and want to spend more, but Kroenke is committed to profits and top four.

My point about the boxes and club level tickets stands.
I do not know if you go to games but there are too many empty seats that are unsold, which are not merely the example of corporate companies buying the box for the season but only having people go to the big games.

That is why more and more boxes are now sold on a match by match basis, with increasing amounts of companies reluctant to commit to buying a box or club level seats for a season.

It is party the recession, but it surely is linked to the football too?

[officepest]

I did not say that Kroenke was determined to win the title.
I wrote that there are board members who want the title and want to spend more, but Kroenke is committed to profits and top four.

We may as well give up then.

[clockender1]

Piers Morgan - a tosser, but spot on :

Useless, yet so predictable. Wenger can't defend a 20-goal lead these days. When will Arsenal fans wake the f**k up? #afc

take no pleasure in being proved right about Wenger. His managerial decay has been very distressing to watch for any Arsenal fan.

he more money Wenger has to spend, the worse we perform. Money's always been his great phoney excuse. #afc

Wenger should be fired for his shocking mis-management of our defence alone. But who will have the guts to do it? #afc

its hard to disagree with any of that - and Jenko is now in a team above us

[Offside]

Loses 8-2; loses 6-0, 6-3, 5-1, 4-0 and, in fact, has his arse handed to him on a frighteningly regular basis by all and sundry and he's still in a job.

The owner loves him, the media love him and, almost inexplicably, the majority of fans still worship at his arse. He is going nowhere fast.

Not to forget all the blown leads: 4-0 to 4-4 at Newcastle, 3-0 to 3-3 at Anderlecht etc.

There's only one Arsene Wenger

[clockender1]

Loses 8-2; loses 6-0, 6-3, 5-1, 4-0 and, in fact, has his arse handed to him on a frighteningly regular basis by all and sundry and he's still in a job.

The owner loves him, the media love him and, almost inexplicably, the majority of fans still worship at his arse. He is going nowhere fast.

Not to forget all the blown leads: 4-0 to 4-4 at Newcastle, 3-0 to 3-3 at Anderlecht etc.

There's only one Arsene Wenger

and don't forget the previous losses to swansea, norwich, blackburn, bradford, birmingham, schalke, shaktar, dortmund, villa etc - all described blips as by our AKB brethren...

wenger has more blips than a radio ham.

4 wins in 11 PL games - after having 100 million to spend

[northbank123]

Agree with SteveO - wanting to win the league and actually having a serious go at doing it are too different things. Regardless of my complete and utter dismay, the highest criticism I could level at Wenger's desire to win is that he places his own ego and project above the club's best interests. I could never suggest that he sets out to lose or even doesn't care but neither him nor anybody on the board can really say they've had a real go at winning the league.

As for the board pretending to stand up to anyone, give over Quartz. I'm sure that the practicalities of 'standing up' to a majority shareholder like Kroenke are somewhat difficult in a huge plc but ultimately he couldn't have paid himself £3m in consultancy fees without board approval. I'd have a bit of respect for one of those dinosaurs if they took a stand against him even if it meant dragging the club through the mud in the press. Instead all they do is sit around, counting their money and waiting to die. Apart from that worthless shit NBS who sold her husband's inherited shares for a fortune to Kroenke and then pretending to give a flying fuck about the club.

Not that I think it would make a huge amount of difference as Kroenke probably thinks if he's not hated by the fans then clearly he could be asset-stripping and penny-pinching even more, but he's strolled in there and done whatever the fuck he wants with the minimum of opposition. Largely by hitching his wagon onto Wenger's. I hope Dennis Hillwood is turning in his grave at his greedy fuckwit of a son selling his birthright down the river for a quick buck. And the greedy fucker used to take £75k a year as salary from the club, worth fuck all to him but sums the bloke up.

It's not that the prices or the lack of success themselves that really get to me. It's that the club's power is vested in people who either don't give a flying fuck or have something other than the club's success at the forefront of their vision. It's such a sorry state of affairs and despite being apathetic about our recent form it's painful how disillusioned I am becoming. There's no end in sight.

[clockender1]

Claude is spot on "its people like you ! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMxiGI7Rhlo




you fecking tell em son

[VAVAVOOM 14]

Claude is spot on "its people like you ! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMxiGI7Rhlo




you fecking tell em son

I would've lamped the cu*t, the epitome of everything that's wrong with the club.

Deluded Wenger apologists.

[BFG4]

Claude is spot on "its people like you ! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMxiGI7Rhlo




you fecking tell em son

This guy looks like an advertisement for the club shop with his waterbottle, headphones etc. Its one thing wearing a jersey, and a scarf to a game, but this guy dresses like a fucking child whose had a field day in the club shop, and is an AKB muppet.

[clockender1]

i loved claudes comeback - "unlucky ?" its not 'luck', its not unlucky when it happens all the time.....

that Ty guy is an embarrassment - fairplay he's committed and goes to all the games home and away but its HIS tolerance of mediocrity that allows wonga to get worse and worse.

[VAVAVOOM 14]

i loved claudes comeback - "unlucky ?" its not 'luck', its not unlucky when it happens all the time.....

that Ty guy is an embarrassment - fairplay he's committed and goes to all the games home and away but its HIS tolerance of mediocrity that allows wonga to get worse and worse.

Granted.

But commitment has nothing to do with being able to see we're festering under Wenger; he's a deranged cu*t who would gladly drink cyanide laced Ribena if our dear leader instructed him to do so.

[TurnipMasher]

Claude is spot on "its people like you ! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMxiGI7Rhlo




you fecking tell em son

This guy looks like an advertisement for the club shop with his waterbottle, headphones etc. Its one thing wearing a jersey, and a scarf to a game, but this guy dresses like a fucking child whose had a field day in the club shop, and is an AKB muppet.

Fucking hell. He's taken being a 'full kit wanker' to another level...

[VAVAVOOM 14]

Wenger on if the gap between us and Chelsea is now too big - "look at the moment I think we have different worries than that'.

In other words, " Fu*k the title, we need to finish in the top 4".