The 2015 Transfer Rumours Thread

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Fast forward to the Charity shield, in the lead up our players (the ones who like to talk a good game) Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs for example will be in the press saying how they think we can 'put down a marker' for the coming season, and challenge for the title
Chelsea players will very little and certainly nothing boastful to the press, I don't think Mourhino stands for it.
After a drab 0-0 Wenger will say something about mental strength and confidence, but when the real stuff starts and before the last ball is bowled in the Ashes series you can be sure we will already be chasing Chelsea's tail.

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foxinthebox2001 wrote:Fast forward to the Charity shield, in the lead up our players (the ones who like to talk a good game) Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs for example will be in the press saying how they think we can 'put down a marker' for the coming season, and challenge for the title
Chelsea players will very little and certainly nothing boastful to the press, I don't think Mourhino stands for it.
After a drab 0-0 Wenger will say something about mental strength and confidence, but when the real stuff starts and before the last ball is bowled in the Ashes series you can be sure we will already be chasing Chelsea's tail.
If this is all so predictable WHY do you have to keep posting the same thing over and over?

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kiwomya wrote:
foxinthebox2001 wrote:Fast forward to the Charity shield, in the lead up our players (the ones who like to talk a good game) Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs for example will be in the press saying how they think we can 'put down a marker' for the coming season, and challenge for the title
Chelsea players will very little and certainly nothing boastful to the press, I don't think Mourhino stands for it.
After a drab 0-0 Wenger will say something about mental strength and confidence, but when the real stuff starts and before the last ball is bowled in the Ashes series you can be sure we will already be chasing Chelsea's tail.
If this is all so predictable WHY do you have to keep posting the same thing over and over?


Because it keeps happening ?? I guess that he is trying to say that it is THAT predictable and yet le cock cant see it and continues with the same flawed practices

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augie wrote:
kiwomya wrote:
foxinthebox2001 wrote:Fast forward to the Charity shield, in the lead up our players (the ones who like to talk a good game) Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs for example will be in the press saying how they think we can 'put down a marker' for the coming season, and challenge for the title
Chelsea players will very little and certainly nothing boastful to the press, I don't think Mourhino stands for it.
After a drab 0-0 Wenger will say something about mental strength and confidence, but when the real stuff starts and before the last ball is bowled in the Ashes series you can be sure we will already be chasing Chelsea's tail.
If this is all so predictable WHY do you have to keep posting the same thing over and over?
Because it keeps happening ?? I guess that he is trying to say that it is THAT predictable and yet le cock cant see it and continues with the same flawed practices
Yet it's not all as predictable as posters on here try to make out. Not so long ago all I read was how we'd never finish higher than 4th, never win another trophy and how we wouldn't spend big whilst Wenger was in charge.

Nobody is claiming that certain things haven't been repeated but to bring up the same shite on every new page of these threads is getting ridiculous. A matter of days after winning the FA Cup and the same people revert back to bashing as much about the club/manager as possible.

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kiwomya wrote:
augie wrote:
kiwomya wrote:
foxinthebox2001 wrote:Fast forward to the Charity shield, in the lead up our players (the ones who like to talk a good game) Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs for example will be in the press saying how they think we can 'put down a marker' for the coming season, and challenge for the title
Chelsea players will very little and certainly nothing boastful to the press, I don't think Mourhino stands for it.
After a drab 0-0 Wenger will say something about mental strength and confidence, but when the real stuff starts and before the last ball is bowled in the Ashes series you can be sure we will already be chasing Chelsea's tail.
If this is all so predictable WHY do you have to keep posting the same thing over and over?
Because it keeps happening ?? I guess that he is trying to say that it is THAT predictable and yet le cock cant see it and continues with the same flawed practices
Yet it's not all as predictable as posters on here try to make out. Not so long ago all I read was how we'd never finish higher than 4th, never win another trophy and how we wouldn't spend big whilst Wenger was in charge.

Nobody is claiming that certain things haven't been repeated but to bring up the same shite on every new page of these threads is getting ridiculous. A matter of days after winning the FA Cup and the same people revert back to bashing as much about the club/manager as possible.
Its because we like to remind people like you that we have not progressed,there wont be a league title arriving next year or the year after

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rigsby wrote:
So stuffing Villa means we can now deal with Chelsea
Seriously? Do you not understand what he's saying? Arsenal went into a big game and swept a team aside. They didn't let the pressure get to them. Finals are finals, and we went there and played excellently. It's a good mentality to have which is showing signs of developing
You're right of course that winning a final is winning a final.
The counter to that, is to ask why, when the level of opposition was higher (eg Monaco), was Wenger not able to change this mentality? And where was it against eg the usual away day at Stoke, at the Bridge, and Shite Lane? :rubchin:
Were we not told that the FA Cup win last season v a Hull would be the "springboard" for a title challenge? So where was it this year then?

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Our title challenge was in the same place as City, United, Liverpool and Spurs', no one stood up, granted the Cup win was supposed to he the springboard but we all know why it wasn't, as long as the same mistakes are not made this Summer there is no reason why we can't do better.

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Gunnersaurus wrote:Our title challenge was in the same place as City, United, Liverpool and Spurs', no one stood up, granted the Cup win was supposed to he the springboard but we all know why it wasn't, as long as the same mistakes are not made this Summer there is no reason why we can't do better.
But we're not competing ourselves to them - and if we really are, in terms of the league, Citeh won it last year, United have won ur several times in the past decade and the Scousers genuinely challenged for it last year. We ain't done that in 10 years! So that's why my question isn't about those teams - it's about Arsenal and why in our unique situation (longest serving manager, who has total control, stability etc), we've not done better? The "mistakes" are unforgivable when he's had a decade to learn from them for me.

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You know why we've not done better or if you don't you are acting stupid and looking for drama, one) he's had to cope with managing the stadium move, two) he's had to cope with losing his best players (something Liverpool did as did Spurs and both collapsed as a result) and three) he's made quite a few fuck ups and has not been flexible enough.

You win no prizes for highlighting it, everyone knows, point is the squad,/team is in better shape and we've just won back to back trophies (something we were mocked for not doing) so to sit here and think we are not going in the right direction and then compare it to the previous ten years where there has been obvious issues it's a bit retarded and too simplistic.

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His mistakes were unforgiveable, that you are right about and that's why I said if he he doesn't make the same mistake again then it should he a springboard as most hope, even an idiot can see that he gambled on the squad last Summer and it back fired so hopefully it will be lesson learned.

Had he attacked the Summer better and we had a better start then it would have been the springboard as we hoped, that's where it failed, before a ball was kicked.

To keep harping on about the last 10 years to prove a point without looking at the stadium move just doesn't work.

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Gunnersaurus wrote:You know why we've not done better or if you don't you are acting stupid and looking for drama, one) he's had to cope with managing the stadium move, two) he's had to cope with losing his best players (something Liverpool did as did Spurs and both collapsed as a result) and three) he's made quite a few fuck ups and has not been flexible enough.

You win no prizes for highlighting it, everyone knows, point is the squad,/team is in better shape and we've just won back to back trophies (something we were mocked for not doing) so to sit here and think we are not going in the right direction and then compare it to the previous ten years where there has been obvious issues it's a bit retarded and too simplistic.
You seem angry. Any chance you could answer a simple question without the abuse? Apparently the MODs here are dead against it (unless of course, they're doing it lol)
The question is: if the cup win v Hull was supposed to be the springboard to a title challenge - and given the money Wenger has spent - why did we not do better in the league and challenge?
The question remains unanswered. Anyways this is for transfers so getting sidetracked: I think a keeper will arrive and no top strikers.

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I'm not angry.

I answered your question more than once, in two separate posts, he messed up the Summer transfer window and went into the season with 2 right backs (one being a kid and the other a new signing) 2 left backs (one being out of form and the other made out of glass) and 2 centre backs (one coming back from the WC injured and the other coming back probably still drunk) so we started the season with 5 defenders and 1 half fit one which meant the out of form 2nd choice left back had to play at centre back for a number of games, he gambled on the defence and it blew up in his face.

That is why he failed to mount a challenge, the damage was done from Aug to Oct/Nov and everything else was catch up.

If he prepares better in the Summer and addresses the weak areas ie Cech coming in hopefully and a proper striker to take Giroud's place than there's no reason why this 2nd Cup win can't be the springboard we should have had 12 months ago.

I am with you though, I'm only expecting Cech with Walcott signing and competing with Giroud.

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Fair point.

Benzema rumours are laughable, he'd never join us.
Jackson Martinez would be a huge upgrade on Giroud, but can't see the £25m clause being met.
Higuain LOL been here before.
Schneiderlin seems desperate to join us, even Alan Smith saying he'd clearly improve us. Why not just go and pay the £25m for a proven PL performer?

Cech I think may actually happen, he seems like it suits him to stay in London.

Pedro I have a suspicion could happen - I wouldn't be against swapping Theo for Raheem either as that's an upgrade in my book.
I don't rate Gibbs at all but Pool can piss off if they want two players and cash for Raheem.
I'd give them £10m plus Theo for Raheem though...

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I think Cech will happen, been reading that he wants to keep his kids in Schools down here so it may be the thing that seals it, that will be Wenger's biggest transfer in years for me, even bigger than Sanchez and Ozil because it's been a big weak area for years and he's a proven winner who wont accept failure, Sanchez is similar and we've seen how it's rubbed off on some of the squad so Cech will be important if it happens.

I just don't see him adding in defence because he's brought Gabriel in who should push for the first team, Bellerin has fallen into his lap so he could also use Debuchy at CB in emergencies, I thought he did well there when he played there and could end up there.

Coquelin has fallen out of the sky and he will probably hide behind his form, the fact that Arteta and Flamini are staying for another year means he has cover there and also think Walcott will sign, he's already made noise about him playing in the middle now so that will solve his striker problem (rightly or wrongly) Im ignoring all smtriker stories as he will stand by Giroud and use Walcott more, Im certain of that, I'm really not expecting much this Summer, most of the squad are fit now which he will also hide behind.

Your Pedro shout could be a goer though, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

Agree about the rest but not Sterling, don't think he's better than Ox so don't think Wenger will go there.

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Raheem would be a huge upgrade on Theo IMO.
Totally with you about him hiding behind Coquelin - what's funny is that this solution of his was kicking about at Charlton, running down his contract a few months ago...until injuries forced Wenger's hand. Jokes.
As soon as he gets an injury next season, it's one of carthorse Flamini or average Arteta. Then the "injuries" excuse will come full-circle once again!
It's clear to me Cech would be a big capture but the striker situation is massive, I'd say Martinez would be best/realistic signing.
Schneiderlin would be great too - Cech + those 2 and I think Arsenal can do top 2. Not winning it though.

I think Mertesacker should be sacked off, I can't ever forget that pathetic Monaco performance. A new CB to replace him would be grand. I also see Chesney is being hobby again because he kept a clean sheet, in a match where the oppo had 0 shots on target. Sigh. Surely he's booted out if Cech comes...

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