THE WENGER THREAD

[mcdowell42]

Unusual situation at Arsenal. Information emerging regarding concerns that changes on the playing side may be afoot. A move for the better?
10:52am - 19 Nov 14


Alex Flynn Twitter.

[OneBardGooner]

poor form, defensive problems, injury problems etc etc - what problems ?

this is how wenger spent yesterday :

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/a ... ll-4654357

doesn't it give you the warm and fuzzies huh ?

This says it F*ckin' ALL...we are about to get ripped a new one on sunday by the mancscumwhores and he is feckin' about like a french john cleese on TV - WTF!???? - with THAT fuckking INANE F*CKING GRIN!

[OneBardGooner]

whilst everyone is going around back slapping i will just leave this here....!!

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9068&p=144531#p144531

Give that man a large drink!

[OneBardGooner]

Very vague rumours on Twitter about Steve bould maybe leaving or being moved out of his asst manager role,nothing concrete though.

Maybe Bouldy has had enough - just like us - anyone dare question his lordship shall be gone by dawn.

welcome to the enlightened side of the darkness bouldy!

[clockender1]

if Uncle quits my already massive respect for him will be through the roof.

[clockender1]

Unusual situation at Arsenal. Information emerging regarding concerns that changes on the playing side may be afoot. A move for the better?
10:52am - 19 Nov 14


Alex Flynn Twitter.

everyone pray that Wenger has been caught taking a bung in the Nasri transfer fraud investigation.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... sri-Drogba

[QuartzGooner]

DD's main flaw was selling his 42% share and not buying out Charles Bracewell Smith before he gave the club shares to his missus,

I disagree.



There is nothing to say that Bracewell-Smith was even prepared to sell to Dein before the buying and selling events of the involvement of Kroenke.

Remember, Dein bought in the early eighties, but in the early nineties had to sell shares to Fiszman.
Dein was not in a position to buy more shares.

Once the Kroenke involvement began and Dein was pushed out of the board, Dein was even less able to buy more shares.

And if Lady Nine Bracewell-Smith chose not to sell to Usmanov, there was nothing Dein could do about that.

[augie]

Interesting comments from podolski in the express today -

"Every player wants to play, every player wants to play in the middle"

This of course highlights the fact that le cock keeps signing players whose natural positions are central but who are then play out of position on the wing because we have too many players for those positions and no naturally wide players

He also said

"He picks the first XI and he picks the tactics. I cannot change the style or tactics of the team."

That for me is a clear dig at le cock for the tactics which is screwing his over - yes it is also a reference to the fact that a change in tactics/formation would suit him as a 2nd striker, but it also hints at the reality that wenker alone picks the style and tactics and no blame should be attributed elsewhere.

These statements are not saying anything that we haven't said a million times over, but he could have just stated that he is unhappy at his lack of game time and left it at that - by choosing to introduce the subject of system and tactics into the discussion he is, for me at least, maintaining the spotlight on the manager for his lack of tactical nous in recent collapses

[DB10GOONER]

Interesting comments from podolski in the express today -

"Every player wants to play, every player wants to play in the middle"

This of course highlights the fact that le cock keeps signing players whose natural positions are central but who are then play out of position on the wing because we have too many players for those positions and no naturally wide players

He also said

"He picks the first XI and he picks the tactics. I cannot change the style or tactics of the team."

That for me is a clear dig at le cock for the tactics which is screwing his over - yes it is also a reference to the fact that a change in tactics/formation would suit him as a 2nd striker, but it also hints at the reality that wenker alone picks the style and tactics and no blame should be attributed elsewhere.

These statements are not saying anything that we haven't said a million times over, but he could have just stated that he is unhappy at his lack of game time and left it at that - by choosing to introduce the subject of system and tactics into the discussion he is, for me at least, maintaining the spotlight on the manager for his lack of tactical nous in recent collapses

Agreed 100%.

Unfortunately, that's Pod gone in January.

[Eboue-Why?]

Can't be bothered to see if this has been mentioned already on the thread so apologies if it has.
I'm a regular listener to the Alan Davies podcast and whilst he has a good old rant from time to time, he never critices Wenger directly as he has so much respect for what he achieved in those first few years. In the latest one, he quotes a conversation he had with Wenger in which the Manager says that there are 2 types of player, those that want to win and those that hate to lose. He also said that in general the ones that hate to lose are defenders.
Surely he should therefore see that this goes to the heart of our problem. When he came to the club he inherited a back 5 that already had the George Graham hate to lose attitude so all he had to do was to find the players who wanted to win i.e the attacking players which of course he famously did.
I know people will always throw the Invincibles defence at you to prove that Wenger could build a post Graham defence but you'd argue that the Invincibles season was more down to the success of the 'wanting to win' players rather than the 'hate to lose' variety.
After the departure of Dennis, Thierry, Robert etc the 'want to win' players are not in the same league as before and we all know that our 'hate to lose' players are, well non existent.
Stands to reason we were never really gonna get anywhere but then I haven't worked in football for 30 years so what do I know

[robbo10]

Can't be bothered to see if this has been mentioned already on the thread so apologies if it has.
I'm a regular listener to the Alan Davies podcast and whilst he has a good old rant from time to time, he never critices Wenger directly as he has so much respect for what he achieved in those first few years. In the latest one, he quotes a conversation he had with Wenger in which the Manager says that there are 2 types of player, those that want to win and those that hate to lose. He also said that in general the ones that hate to lose are defenders.
Surely he should therefore see that this goes to the heart of our problem. When he came to the club he inherited a back 5 that already had the George Graham hate to lose attitude so all he had to do was to find the players who wanted to win i.e the attacking players which of course he famously did.
I know people will always throw the Invincibles defence at you to prove that Wenger could build a post Graham defence but you'd argue that the Invincibles season was more down to the success of the 'wanting to win' players rather than the 'hate to lose' variety.
After the departure of Dennis, Thierry, Robert etc the 'want to win' players are not in the same league as before and we all know that our 'hate to lose' players are, well non existent.
Stands to reason we were never really gonna get anywhere but then I haven't worked in football for 30 years so what do I know

I'm not even sure Arsene believes the complete and utter embarrassing shit that he spouts in press conferences and after games (when he does talk),the man's a grade A fraud,Davies aint gonna jepardise his cushy number over the Grove either,another post 96 convert probably.

[dPmunky]

AW on Jack -- Nov 2013: "His best position is as a deep-lying midfielder."

Sep 2014: "I prefer him to play higher up the pitch."

— gunnerblog 2014-11-20T13:51:53Z

Arsene Knows!

sing it SteveO!

[Dan_85]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/wen ... ne-manager

Most ridiculous pro-Wenger article of the day. Apparently bringing David Dein back is the answer to everything. Because having him back on the board should help improve our defensive shape, bolster Arsene's tactical knowledge, do away with the random substitutions, bizarre formations...

[defleppardisking]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/wen ... ne-manager

Most ridiculous pro-Wenger article of the day. Apparently bringing David Dein back is the answer to everything. Because having him back on the board should help improve our defensive shape, bolster Arsene's tactical knowledge, do away with the random substitutions, bizarre formations...

Might as well ask him to replace Wenger as the manager

[gp543]

Can't be bothered to see if this has been mentioned already on the thread so apologies if it has.
I'm a regular listener to the Alan Davies podcast and whilst he has a good old rant from time to time, he never critices Wenger directly as he has so much respect for what he achieved in those first few years. In the latest one, he quotes a conversation he had with Wenger in which the Manager says that there are 2 types of player, those that want to win and those that hate to lose. He also said that in general the ones that hate to lose are defenders.
Surely he should therefore see that this goes to the heart of our problem. When he came to the club he inherited a back 5 that already had the George Graham hate to lose attitude so all he had to do was to find the players who wanted to win i.e the attacking players which of course he famously did.
I know people will always throw the Invincibles defence at you to prove that Wenger could build a post Graham defence but you'd argue that the Invincibles season was more down to the success of the 'wanting to win' players rather than the 'hate to lose' variety.
After the departure of Dennis, Thierry, Robert etc the 'want to win' players are not in the same league as before and we all know that our 'hate to lose' players are, well non existent.
Stands to reason we were never really gonna get anywhere but then I haven't worked in football for 30 years so what do I know

I'm not even sure Arsene believes the complete and utter embarrassing shit that he spouts in press conferences and after games (when he does talk),the man's a grade A fraud,Davies aint gonna jepardise his cushy number over the Grove either,another post 96 convert probably.

Alan's been going to the Arsenal for a lot longer back than 96. He was a bit more critical of Arsene in the last few episodes. He's also suggested many times that Wenger should have gone after the cup win.