Weekend Intl Games

[supergeorgegraham]

England really bore me. It was fun watching the ITV guys trying to find things to talk about last night as the game was waiting to be cancelled. That was more fun than the game.

[augie]

Glen johnson is holding the england backline together on his own - yes glen fcuking johnson
He should have had a penalty just now as well

Good to see cashley gettingv a yellow card for timewasting in the first half - thought that the ref was a bit quick off the mark but clearly the rep of a scumbag classless chav c**t travels beyond the english shores

[Vinny1967]

1-1.
It was coming..........and just after Rooney missed a sitter.

[augie]

Joe Hart was shocking for that goal - I have long held the view that he is dodgy when it comes to dealing with crosses but I suppose we will see in time if it is just an experience issue

Good to see the ox getting game time again - I always liked woy and he has shown that he has the balls to take off a "star" like shrek where other english managers would have opted out

[BournemouthRED]

FFS! Just blow the whistle and we can look forward to the arsenal being back on Saturday!

[QuartzGooner]

Poor by England, little fluency. Defoe and Rooney missed good chances.

[richpye]

I honestly congratulate anyone who can put themselves through the turgid displays that the cream of English talent deem acceptable at the moment. I feel sorry for the fans in all of this.

[SteveO 35]

I honestly congratulate anyone who can put themselves through the turgid displays that the cream of English talent deem acceptable at the moment. I feel sorry for the fans in all of this.

Thankfully it was on during work hours so I missed the whole sorry affair. A couple of people in the office who could be arsed were watching it on laptops and said it was the same old story of not being able to string more than 3 or 4 passes together in a row and a midfield packed with workhorses and no flair.

When England produce a Fabregas or Cazorla, it might become bearable to watch. Until then we'll carry on qualifying and never get beyond a major QF

Still, it could be worse....we could be Scottish

[g88ner]

I honestly congratulate anyone who can put themselves through the turgid displays that the cream of English talent deem acceptable at the moment. I feel sorry for the fans in all of this.

Thankfully it was on during work hours so I missed the whole sorry affair. A couple of people in the office who could be arsed were watching it on laptops and said it was the same old story of not being able to string more than 3 or 4 passes together in a row and a midfield packed with workhorses and no flair.

When England produce a Fabregas or Cazorla, it might become bearable to watch. Until then we'll carry on qualifying and never get beyond a major QF

Still, it could be worse....we could be Scottish

Assuming he gets over his injury woes, I think having Wilshere will help... although he'll hardly be surrounded by the most technically gifted bunch

[augie]

I honestly congratulate anyone who can put themselves through the turgid displays that the cream of English talent deem acceptable at the moment. I feel sorry for the fans in all of this.

Thankfully it was on during work hours so I missed the whole sorry affair. A couple of people in the office who could be arsed were watching it on laptops and said it was the same old story of not being able to string more than 3 or 4 passes together in a row and a midfield packed with workhorses and no flair.

When England produce a Fabregas or Cazorla, it might become bearable to watch. Until then we'll carry on qualifying and never get beyond a major QF

Still, it could be worse....we could be Scottish

I know that he isnt everybody's cup of tea but I have always held the view that carrick is far more suitable to international football than he is to domestic football cos ball retention is key even if it means going sidewards and backwards but today his passing was shocking For me the centre backs need to shoulder a lot of responsibility for the inability to retain possession - too many times they (lescott in particular) showed a complete lack of patience and tried to get the ball forward even if there was no option there I do believe that as much as the english media and fans marvel at the tika taka barca style of play, they would not show the patience should their own team start playing that way as it would be all "get it forward" type of "encouragement" from the stands

[SteveO 35]

I honestly congratulate anyone who can put themselves through the turgid displays that the cream of English talent deem acceptable at the moment. I feel sorry for the fans in all of this.

Thankfully it was on during work hours so I missed the whole sorry affair. A couple of people in the office who could be arsed were watching it on laptops and said it was the same old story of not being able to string more than 3 or 4 passes together in a row and a midfield packed with workhorses and no flair.

When England produce a Fabregas or Cazorla, it might become bearable to watch. Until then we'll carry on qualifying and never get beyond a major QF

Still, it could be worse....we could be Scottish

I know that he isnt everybody's cup of tea but I have always held the view that carrick is far more suitable to international football than he is to domestic football cos ball retention is key even if it means going sidewards and backwards but today his passing was shocking For me the centre backs need to shoulder a lot of responsibility for the inability to retain possession - too many times they (lescott in particular) showed a complete lack of patience and tried to get the ball forward even if there was no option there I do believe that as much as the english media and fans marvel at the tika taka barca style of play, they would not show the patience should their own team start playing that way as it would be all "get it forward" type of "encouragement" from the stands

England have a long history of not trusting some of the most gifted footballers in the country - Hoddle, Le Tissier, Barnes etc. Although 2 of those 3 made more than a few appearances they were always slated when we didn't perform, rather than the 10 hod carriers surrounding them. I remember the crowd getting stuck into John Barnes when England were struggling to break down San Marino in '93, as if he was solely to blame, without realising the biggest issue was that we had carthorses like Carlton Palmer playing. To be honest, I hope Wilshere doesn't get hyped up to be the new saviour of English football because he will come in for inevitable stick later in his career trying to carry the rest of them around

We're probably 2 bad results away from everyone saying Hodgson should never have got the job and calling for Klopp or Mourinho or whoever the latest foreign messiah is. We'll no doubt return to a foreign manager again some day failing to realise that we are just not producing talented enough young players

I watched my eldest lad playing on a full size pitch when he had just turned 11 and it was fucking embarrassing. Just stick a lad at the back who can give it a good whack upfield to a strong kid with a bit of pace, and watch him blast past a dwarf standing in a full size goal. Same thing every week - coaches screaming "over the top, over the top" and celebrating like mad when the route one ball and toe punted finish lead to another goal.

The sad fact for all the home nations is that small nations like the Dutch, Belgium, and Croatia can produce more technically competent players than ours on a regular basis.

[SteveO 35]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19985824#

I see UEFA have taken their first inevitable step towards dismissing the shameful scenes in Serbia as a scrap between a few blokes by charging our own FA for the 'improper conduct' of our players, as well as the Serbs

So I presume young Rose should just stand there having monkey noises aimed at him for 90 minutes and being stoned and coined every time we took a set piece near the touchline.

They've already been fined for abusing Onouha in 2007, then forced to play behind close doors for all that shit they created in Italy in 2010 and Platini supposedly issued a 'suspended ban'.......so come on you bunch of spineless *word censored* are you going to chuck this scum out of Europe or not ??

[Herd]

England have a well used and reliable program for failure ever since Ramsey left his indelible imprint on the English game .

Very Occasionally England gets 1 or 2 world class players but instead of building a team to maximise the strengths of these people we make them fit in a stereotypical Engerland pattern which the whole knows about and can combat with ease .

Hoddle a man I despise, but was an unbelievable talent should have had a team built around him as a play-maker but we had managers too stupid or too scared to do that .

Barnes and Gascoigne could have had teams built for them not to mention Matt le tiss or even Stan Bowls but we never do that and we suffer accordingly .

All managers pick the best players on paper without thinking of how they gel as a team , the lumpard Gerrard fiasco a prime example .

I no longer give a fcuk abt england and havent for years !

[1989]

England have a well used and reliable program for failure ever since Ramsey left his indelible imprint on the English game .

Ok, he does frustrate us all with his inconsistency and general ineptitude, but to also blame him for England's troubles is going a bit too far I reckon!

[flash gunner]

Hallelujah its all over for a while and we can get back to REAL football