Well now that that's all been Squared away...DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:10 amTo quote everyone's man of the year, Loooook... We'll have to agree to disagree as this just goes round in circles.augie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:06 amDB10GOONER wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:41 amAgain, augie, with all due respect mate, I think you are slightly missing the elephant in the room. Obviously those managers would do better - ffs I would do better!! But why would Kroenke appoint Simeone or Ancellotti (he would not be my choice but anyway) or say Allegri? They are ambitious football men, not pretend economists. It's too simplistic to say Kroenke gave Wenger X amount to spend and that Wenger fucked it up by not spending it well. Kroenke released whatever he released money-wise of Arsenal money. And I'd bet my last cent he and Wenger had agreed that Wenger was never going to spend that amount. Look at our actual dealings;augie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:51 amDB10, do you think that (for example) ancellotti or diego simeone would do better with the squad we had last season ? Do you think that either would oversee back to back 5-1 maulings against Bayern ? Do you think that either would accept gutless performances that we seen at palace and the baggies last season ? Do you accept that giving his manager £100m to spend in summer of 2016 can be classed as kroenke supporting/backing his manager, and do you feel that the manager spent that money well ?
Kroenke is no good for our club. In the long term he will be a serious hinderance to our hopes of competing with the worlds best clubs. However he has backed a manager and given the c.unt plenty (too much) money in a bid to win the big trophies, so it is down to the total mismanagement and ineptitude of a senile c.unt manager that we are in the alarming mess we found ourselves in - yes he should fire the *word censored*, but the reality is that a top manager would do massively better with the resources available to him, and if so we wouldn't even be talking about kroenke's us franchises/new stadiums etc
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/arsenal ... /verein/11
According to that (yes, it's probably not acurate to the cent but it looks roughly right to me) we made a profit of possibly £14million.
Releasing Arsenal money to the Arsenal manager is not enough for an owner or chairman to do. It's the bare minimum. The owner, Kroenke, sets the tone. At Arsenal under Kroenke it is money first, football second. Wenger is his ideal manager - as proven by the ludicrous contract extension. Wenger will never spend £100million on players. Kroenke would simply look to appoint another "economist" as manager should Wenger leave. And I'd also bet my last cent that Wenger would have a big say in that appointment.
My point re the £100m transfer kitty wasn't that it came from kroenke's own pocket, but rather that le cock had the money and totally wasted it. We (the fans) have been consistant in our beliefs that the club should be generating enough money themselves to compete, so whether it came from kroenke's pocket or whether it came from players sales is irrelevant in the context of him pissing the money down the drain.
I'm not missing the elephant in the room at all - way, way back, I was one of the very few fans who was against selling out to kroenke, and I said it many times that I would have been more pro-usmanov. In an ideal scenario both of these *word censored*.s will fuck off at the end of this season (sooner would be better btw), but in the meantime I am totally convinced that getting rid of wenker would see a dramatic improvement on the playing side of the club regardless of who the owner is - whether our ***** owner (or the board) would have enough knowledge or acumen to appoint a suitable manager is an argument for another day, but I honestly believe that kroenke (for all his faults) is deferring to an outdated arrogant c.unt who is the one dictating how our club is being run
Both Wiggy and Wenger are the Problem, however if Wenger left (Yeah riiiiiiight! ) then wiggy would need to get another Profit Before Trophies manager - ie: another wannabe accountant. And I'm sure there are plenty out there who can do it...If Wiggy sold up and the new owner also thought wenger was their first choice manager - because of his ability to make plenty of profit (at the cost of success on the pitch) then 'Problem Wenger' would remain, however if wiggy goes - then wenger would be left stripped of his protection, and be skinned alive and left to the mercy of the salt throwing fans....
if you see what I mean?