Van Persie saga, officially not extending contract.

[1989]

1989

do you really think the club has any ambition to win trophies this season if they are prepared to sell RVP to Man United?
If you do then you must be the most deluded supporter I have ever encountered.

we have so far bought a fading german player, a reserve french player and some unknown spaniard.
and you think that shows ambition to win anything???? or do you consider a top 4 place worthy of a trophy?

I think there is a middle ground between you and 1989. Red your description of our summer buys is OTT but then so is 1989's excitement about them!!! We have strengthened but have we done enough to convince RVP? only he knows and compared to recent summers we have but we still have no 'blue ribbon' signings as such

Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are fantastic signings by anyone's standard. They're as good as we could've hoped to sign this summer.

Why wouldn't you be excited? For once, we are actually spending money on quality players who are in their prime and ready to go. I'm absolutely buzzing mate. Whether RVP stays or goes we'll have a good team next year.

If he stays that would be the icing on the cake and I'd fancy us for a top two finish, particularly if we add a further signing or two (DM).

I think it's an exciting time to be a Gooner and most fans are similarly upbeat right now. RVP is doing his best to make us all depressed again and I hate him for that. If he's not impressed with our new signings then he can fuck right off.

[UTU The Arsenal]

Fuck the money i dont give a fuck who gets what, we need to keep our best players simple as that. I remember a time when no one knew or cared how much players got or what our finances were. Keeping RVP is paramount to a more successful season

Yes but to keep him we would need to spen that. I fail to see your argument on this point

My point is i want us to keep our best players and i dont care how the club does it, the end of year accounts and profits do not impress me

Agreed But Kroneke owns Arsenal and he will sell RVP to the Highest Bidder, if RVP is Sold to Man Utd that will confirm Arsenal's continued status as a Feeder Club

[flash gunner]

1989

do you really think the club has any ambition to win trophies this season if they are prepared to sell RVP to Man United?
If you do then you must be the most deluded supporter I have ever encountered.

we have so far bought a fading german player, a reserve french player and some unknown spaniard.
and you think that shows ambition to win anything???? or do you consider a top 4 place worthy of a trophy?

I think there is a middle ground between you and 1989. Red your description of our summer buys is OTT but then so is 1989's excitement about them!!! We have strengthened but have we done enough to convince RVP? only he knows and compared to recent summers we have but we still have no 'blue ribbon' signings as such

Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are fantastic signings by anyone's standard. They're as good as we could've hoped to sign this summer.

Why wouldn't you be excited? For once, we are actually spending money on quality players who are in their prime and ready to go. I'm absolutely buzzing mate. Whether RVP stays or goes we'll have a good team next year.

If he stays that would be the icing on the cake and I'd fancy us for a top two finish, particularly if we add a further signing or two (DM).

I think it's an exciting time to be a Gooner and most fans are similarly upbeat right now. RVP is doing his best to make us all depressed again and I hate him for that. If he's not impressed with our new signings then he can fuck right off.

As i said compared to previous summers we have done an amazing amount of business but still we lack 1 or 2 'world class' players. The players we have bought are good possibly very good who knows. Im pleased and id be even more pleased if we bought 3 more players in defensive positions but buzzing? No im not buzzing i was buzzing when we bought Bergkamp he WAS a top drawer signing

[mikeyb772001]

Unknown Spanish player - These shows you have no clue about football. All the big clubs wanted him, real Madrid included and he chose Arsenal. He is viewed as one of the best players in the whole of Spain! On a similar level to Silva and only a small way behind Iniesta

Really Mikey? Wanted by everyone but he chose us? Sorry mate i cant believe that

Terry Gibson - Ex spud and spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transf ... tas-177961


Graham Hunter - Spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivet ... nio-178167

[mikeyb772001]

1989

do you really think the club has any ambition to win trophies this season if they are prepared to sell RVP to Man United?
If you do then you must be the most deluded supporter I have ever encountered.

we have so far bought a fading german player, a reserve french player and some unknown spaniard.and you think that shows ambition to win anything???? or do you consider a top 4 place worthy of a trophy?

STUPID THING TO SAY!

Terry Gibson - Ex spud and spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transf ... tas-177961


Graham Hunter - Spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivet ... nio-178167

[flash gunner]

Unknown Spanish player - These shows you have no clue about football. All the big clubs wanted him, real Madrid included and he chose Arsenal. He is viewed as one of the best players in the whole of Spain! On a similar level to Silva and only a small way behind Iniesta

Really Mikey? Wanted by everyone but he chose us? Sorry mate i cant believe that

Terry Gibson - Ex spud and spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transf ... tas-177961


Graham Hunter - Spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivet ... nio-178167

Im at work cant listen to them but if they rate him thats good but do they say Madrid and many other clubs were after him? I cant believe that for all the reasons RVP wants to leave we are a level below the major clubs like Madrid/Barca

[1989]

Fuck the money i dont give a fuck who gets what, we need to keep our best players simple as that. I remember a time when no one knew or cared how much players got or what our finances were. Keeping RVP is paramount to a more successful season

Yes but to keep him we would need to spen that. I fail to see your argument on this point

My point is i want us to keep our best players and i dont care how the club does it, the end of year accounts and profits do not impress me

Agreed But Kroneke owns Arsenal and he will sell RVP to the Highest Bidder, if RVP is Sold to Man Utd that will confirm Arsenal's continued status as a Feeder Club

We should not even contemplate selling him to that lot. £20m we would is not worth the humiliation of selling our captain and best player to a rival. The message we'd sent out would be horrendous.

Make him rot in the reserves if he doesn't like it. Then set Frimpong on him to do his glass legs in and watch his value depreciate as he turns 30 with a full head of grey hair. See if any fucker would be willing to offer him £200k a week wages then.

[mikeyb772001]

Unknown Spanish player - These shows you have no clue about football. All the big clubs wanted him, real Madrid included and he chose Arsenal. He is viewed as one of the best players in the whole of Spain! On a similar level to Silva and only a small way behind Iniesta

Really Mikey? Wanted by everyone but he chose us? Sorry mate i cant believe that

Terry Gibson - Ex spud and spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transf ... tas-177961


Graham Hunter - Spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivet ... nio-178167

Im at work cant listen to them but if they rate him thats good but do they say Madrid and many other clubs were after him? I cant believe that for all the reasons RVP wants to leave we are a level below the major clubs like Madrid/Barca

Yeh, there was a host of clubs after him. Madrid included. Sid Lowe also said the same.


He is a player of principle , and spoke to many ex arsenal players. He chose us.

[LeGinge (Northern Branch)]

Unknown Spanish player - These shows you have no clue about football. All the big clubs wanted him, real Madrid included and he chose Arsenal. He is viewed as one of the best players in the whole of Spain! On a similar level to Silva and only a small way behind Iniesta

Really Mikey? Wanted by everyone but he chose us? Sorry mate i cant believe that

Terry Gibson - Ex spud and spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transf ... tas-177961


Graham Hunter - Spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivet ... nio-178167

Im at work cant listen to them but if they rate him thats good but do they say Madrid and many other clubs were after him? I cant believe that for all the reasons RVP wants to leave we are a level below the major clubs like Madrid/Barca

To be fair - if he is on the bench for Spain I doubt he'd get in Barca's team. Even if they were after him he would be foolish to go and sit on the bench. Also - they have other areas they need to strengthen (Defence, DM etc...) so can't see him being top of their list (as they're not exactly flush) even if they were interested.

Madrid - hmmm seems they want a more rounded midfielder based on their reported targets. Cazorla appears to be more of an attacking midfielder and I think Madrid are pretty happy with their lot there.

That said - delighted he's with us

[1989]

1989

do you really think the club has any ambition to win trophies this season if they are prepared to sell RVP to Man United?
If you do then you must be the most deluded supporter I have ever encountered.

we have so far bought a fading german player, a reserve french player and some unknown spaniard.and you think that shows ambition to win anything???? or do you consider a top 4 place worthy of a trophy?

STUPID THING TO SAY!

Terry Gibson - Ex spud and spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transf ... tas-177961


Graham Hunter - Spanish football expert pundit

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivet ... nio-178167

Don't bother with RedWUMber mate. Clearly just fishing for reactions.

[flash gunner]

He is a player of principle

Well i hope that's the case and he wont be flirting with Barca in a couple of years after a good season or 2 and Xavi is past it.... hmmmmm

[LeGinge (Northern Branch)]

He is a player of principle

Well i hope that's the case and he wont be flirting with Barca in a couple of years after a good season or 2 and Xavi is past it.... hmmmmm

It won't happen - they'll have Alex Song by then

[1989]

It seems some folk don't realise how good Cazorla is (or in RedWum's case, don't even know him). I still can't believe we actually got him. He's a £35m player whom due to Malaga's dire situation, we managed to nab at a bargain price. The guy is top drawer, wait till he plays his first game for us.

[officepest]

1989

do you really think the club has any ambition to win trophies this season if they are prepared to sell RVP to Man United?
If you do then you must be the most deluded supporter I have ever encountered.

we have so far bought a fading german player, a reserve french player and some unknown spaniard.
and you think that shows ambition to win anything???? or do you consider a top 4 place worthy of a trophy?

Red

In the space of a year your opinion seems to have shifted from far-left to far-right, if the use of a political analogy is apt. I'm afraid though that the two highlighted comments display a level of ignorance, or trolling, that I feel I must counter.

Podolski scored 18 league goals for a team which was relegated, hardly fair to label him 'fading'. As for the Cazorla remark, I can only assume you've never seen him play, or that you do not watch any football other than the prem.

As for Giroud, well he looked good for Montpellier but I can't argue with your description. We have though, a tradition of signing reserve French players, most of whom progress to a decent level (Wiltord, Nasri, Koscielny to name a few).

We do not know if any of these will be good players, but then you never know if ANY player will be a success, only time will tell but please don't just type the first knee-jerk description that comes into your head.

I would've agreed with your descriptions if we had signed Sebastian Deisler, Sidney Govou and Juan Carlos Valeron, but we haven't.

[mikeyb772001]

It seems some folk don't realise how good Cazorla is (or in RedWum's case, don't even know him). I still can't believe we actually got him. He's a £35m player whom due to Malaga's dire situation managed to nab at a bargain price. The guy is top drawer, wait till he plays his first game for us.

Exactly right. We could have a huge star.