THE WENGER THREAD

[Ikechukwu1]

http://www.football365.com/john-nichols ... -Nicholson

Best piece I've read on Le Tool so far.

[augie]

Have to say, that as an pro usmanov fan, I am slightly disappointed by his statement - it kinda skirts around the edges but doesn't come out and say categorically that change is needed and now. He suggest that principles are holding le cock back, but the reality is that he has no tactical acumen, cannot motivate his players and isn't decisive enough in the transfer market nor in team selection and they are only a few of the reasons why he is a spent force. Suggesting a change of principles will sort this mess is insane

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Have to say, that as an pro usmanov fan, I am slightly disappointed by his statement - it kinda skirts around the edges but doesn't come out and say categorically that change is needed and now. He suggest that principles are holding le cock back, but the reality is that he has no tactical acumen, cannot motivate his players and isn't decisive enough in the transfer market nor in team selection and they are only a few of the reasons why he is a spent force. Suggesting a change of principles will sort this mess is insane

Yes but he has to choose his words carefully and talk like a politician. I'm sure he doesn't want to anger anyone at this point, especially none from the pro wenker camp.

[monkswell]

http://www.football365.com/john-nichols ... -Nicholson

Yet more people talking sense...its great to see people calling out wenger for the complete and utter piss take that he is!!

Good piece.

Once a managerial giant, now a pygmy. Wenger is Nokia to Mourinho's Apple.

[OneBardGooner]

http://www.football365.com/john-nichols ... -Nicholson

Best piece I've read on Le Tool so far.

Yup! well written - and makes the salient points we have all been banging on about for some 8 seasons now....especially:

It's like when you first got a new packet of colourful plasticine and it quickly goes from being lots of lovely bright colours into one big turd-like brown lump. Everyone who joins Arsenal, sooner or later, no matter how bright their colour, becomes part of the Arsenal brown. At first they look great but then get more and more anonymous.

As fantastic as Alexis Sanchez is, and he does look like a man amongst boys at times, you fear that he will go the same way as the rest of so many Arsenal arrivals. Great for a few months, then injured, then out for longer than originally anticipated, then not so good anymore, then hanging around for years, then sold. All the joy in his game sucked out and replaced by a hollow-eyed Arsenal Zombie.

The reverence with which Wenger is treated for achievements that are now a long time ago is inappropriate in a game which lives in the now. Stop being so sodding grateful to him. He is not a selfless public servant working on minimum wage for the greater good. He's not some altruistic intellectual unselfishly bestowing his wisdom - quite the opposite. Financially, he's creaming it up big style to the tune of seven and a half million quid a year and for what? For that sh*te on Saturday? He should hand his bloody money back. The degree of grateful deference shown towards him would be more appropriate to a brave, noble charity worker, doing something really important, something life and death, not to a multi-millionaire who it would be easy to call greedy. The fact he's treated like the former and not the latter by fans and media alike illustrates what a brilliant job the man has done to sell this ridiculous, academic, aloof image to football society. People have forgotten he's fabulously rich, is sucking down money as fast as they can print it and is getting £150,000 richer every week despite consistent failure. Except of course, he doesn't fail, as I say, he's redefined his failure as success and plenty seem to have swallowed this delusion down, compliant to the point of idiocy.

For the neutral, Arsenal are the most infuriating football club. Never quite bad enough to sink low and rebuild, never quite good enough to satisfy anyone, stuck in a Groundhog Day, still trying to play the sort of football which they have so successfully proven to not be quite good enough at, still trying to pretend that it will come good in the end and, snootily asserting for so many years that we should all be so damn grateful to witness their efforts. Well bollocks to you. Why don't you try something new? I'll tell you why you don't, it's because the manager is inflexible and narrow-minded. He's paid as though he's one of the elite managers in world football and he's just not. He's miles away from that and getting further away every week.

The fact that the team's glaring deficiencies have been so obvious to so many people for so long but still remain unaddressed, is surely further proof of the poor value Wenger is giving the club. But somehow, Wenger has pulled the wool over enough people's eyes for so long that enough believe that his myopia is actually 20/20 vision. You do know that from a distance it looks as if you're all being taken for mugs, don't you? Not only does the emperor have no clothes, he's not even the bloody emperor. If it's not time to change now, when will it be and why should the club's richest employee get to decide on his own future?
The whole club seems ridiculous for keeping Wenger. As ridiculous as Wenger's long coats which, as soon as they appear, seem to indicate the start of their seasonal wretchedness. It looks like he's bigger than the club. Hell fire, the sodding stupid coat is probably bigger than the club.
Imagine if, as is quite possible, you had Jurgen Klopp as your manager. Imagine how exciting it would be. Imagine how much better it would be than the slow desiccation you're suffering. Imagine the spark of life, of guts and soul you'd have. Imagine the extinguishing of the passion-killing big coat attitudes. Imagine having fun. That is what you're missing out on by this ridiculous over-respectful cringing towards your failed manager.
There's no proof managerial stability is an asset. In fact, Wenger is proof of the fallacy of the notion. Wenger is a busted flush. Out of date and out of time, he's taking the pish out of all of you. Everyone eats pasta now, so it's never going to get better, despite every year hinting that one day it might. Well, cancel my subscription to the resurrection. The music's over. Turn out the lights.



How anyone can disagree with that is beyond me - though of copurse some AKB's will.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Look at this, the latest official Arsenal Facebook status update... look at the comments! No sight of AKB's and that's the place you've usually found them easily...

https://www.facebook.com/Arsenal/posts/ ... 9411247713

[BFG4]

Have to say, that as an pro usmanov fan, I am slightly disappointed by his statement - it kinda skirts around the edges but doesn't come out and say categorically that change is needed and now. He suggest that principles are holding le cock back, but the reality is that he has no tactical acumen, cannot motivate his players and isn't decisive enough in the transfer market nor in team selection and they are only a few of the reasons why he is a spent force. Suggesting a change of principles will sort this mess is insane

The only reason that there was ever any anti Usmanov nonsense going around, was because the AKB'S thought we should do things the Wenger way, and not spend money on players(until Wenger says so). The really laughable thing is those fans having a pop at other clubs for spending big on players, how dare those clubs have ambition, they should be aiming for top 4 at best. Funny that AKB'S failed to mention the fact that our starting line up on Saturday, contained 8 out of 11 players that didnt come through our academy. It seems we buy players just as much as the other big clubs, but go for b rate players(Sanchez excluded).

[Blood_Gooner]

Thought that undesirable, Jabba, had long fucked off out our Club.

Ffs wasn't the boldly printed banner legible enough?

[foxinthebox2001]

This is getting a bit like the last days of Thatchers time as Prime Minister.
That too was caused not so much by outside opposition, but her own party coming out against her.
Just a matter of time before we get the tearful resignation speech.

[SydneyGooner]

This is getting a bit like the last days of Thatchers time as Prime Minister.
That too was caused not so much by outside opposition, but her own party coming out against her.
Just a matter of time before we get the tearful resignation speech.

No speech just fuck off.

[Gunner Rob]

This is getting a bit like the last days of Thatchers time as Prime Minister.
That too was caused not so much by outside opposition, but her own party coming out against her.
Just a matter of time before we get the tearful resignation speech.

I would say it is more like the last days of Hitler

[Gunner Rob]

Look at this, the latest official Arsenal Facebook status update... look at the comments! No sight of AKB's and that's the place you've usually found them easily...

https://www.facebook.com/Arsenal/posts/ ... 9411247713

every other post is WengeroutWengerout

surely this kind of thing is damaging the brand?? wonder what the sponsors think

[foxinthebox2001]

Look at this, the latest official Arsenal Facebook status update... look at the comments! No sight of AKB's and that's the place you've usually found them easily...

https://www.facebook.com/Arsenal/posts/ ... 9411247713

every other post is WengeroutWengerout

surely this kind of thing is damaging the brand?? wonder what the sponsors think

I for one am fully prepared to boycott Emirates Airlines.
Not sure though about selling my Citroen C3 or binning all my Puma trainers.

[Supagoon]

well nike oversaw the slide and said peep . Probably because they could divert attention to Barca and Utd.

We're Puma's highest profile club, they need say they'd prefer a fellow german in charge.

[clockender1]

ESPN - ARSENAL IN LIMBO UNTIL WENGER LEAVES :

http://www.espnfc.us/#club/arsenal/359/ ... ier-league

With every game that ebbs by, each predictable failure followed by another ultimately inconsequential minor victory, it becomes clearer that Wenger should have taken last season's FA Cup win as his curtain call...

Essentially, every day Arsene Wenger stays in charge of Arsenal is another one wasted

that right there.