The 2015 Transfer Rumours Thread

[augie]

Btw, for the record I would suggest that we should be making serious moves to sign reus from Dortmund this summer - yes he signed a new contract a while back and yes in theory he is not "available", but we are a much bigger club than Dortmund and it is a Dortmund club in decline as well.

[Dodgyknee71]

Btw, for the record I would suggest that we should be making serious moves to sign reus from Dortmund this summer - yes he signed a new contract a while back and yes in theory he is not "available", but we are a much bigger club than Dortmund and it is a Dortmund club in decline as well.

Does this apply to Lloris also if so..yes please

[Dodgyknee71]

Btw, for the record I would suggest that we should be making serious moves to sign reus from Dortmund this summer - yes he signed a new contract a while back and yes in theory he is not "available", but we are a much bigger club than Dortmund and it is a Dortmund club in decline as well.

Does this apply to Lloris also if so..yes please

[Gunnersaurus]

Love the bit that we have to sign a top striker ,but yet no has said wht top striker will we sign or what top striker is out there that is actually available ,easy to spout shit (and I'm good at it)but please who is out there ,THAT is available.

Hate comments like this, it's such a worthless waste of time to even type it.

We are supporters who can see where we are weak and want strengthening.

The club employ an 'army' of scouts around Europe and the World, why do we need to name names like we've eaten a copy of football manager and talk even more shit than you are complaining about? That's their job and that's why they get paid millions, we pay thousands to point out where we think we need strengthening without needing to be an agent to have the opinion.

It's a transfer rumour thread, maybe a good idea to pop your head in somewhere else.

[mcdowell42]

Love the bit that we have to sign a top striker ,but yet no has said wht top striker will we sign or what top striker is out there that is actually available ,easy to spout shit (and I'm the best at it)but please who is out there ,THAT is available.

Your modesty knows no bounds mc

Can I just say that in general terms I don't agree with that thought process - we are The Arsenal and should be able to attract and sign players who are "not available". The big clubs identify players they want and then move heaven and earth to buy them players - it doesn't always work that way of course because on some occasions the player will not want to move or his club will refuse to sell regardless of how much money is on offer, but frequently players will become unsettled when a big club wants to sign them and then a player that wasn't available is suddenly available for the right money
We are lucky to be able to have players like sanchez and ozil in our club and on that we all agree, but I don't accept that their signings indicates a huge change in wenker's transfer policy - the reality is that both of these players were made available by their previous clubs and if that had not been the case then le cock would not have pursued them.
We should, in my opinion at least, be far more aggressive in our transfer activity and if we identify a top player that we need, then wenker/law/gazidas should move heaven and earth to sign the player. Maybe this summer is a bit more complicated than that because we, in my opinion, need 3 or 4 quality signings for the spine of our team - generally players in those positions will cost more money so going out and offering huge money for any one player might not be workable

I know what you are saying Augie but could you see city selling us aquero or barca selling us Suarez or messi ,I don't watch alot of football from other leagues so I'm not familiar with what other strikers that are out there.

[mcdowell42]

Love the bit that we have to sign a top striker ,but yet no has said wht top striker will we sign or what top striker is out there that is actually available ,easy to spout shit (and I'm good at it)but please who is out there ,THAT is available.

Hate comments like this, it's such a worthless waste of time to even type it.

We are supporters who can see where we are weak and want strengthening.

The club employ an 'army' of scouts around Europe and the World, why do we need to name names like we've eaten a copy of football manager and talk even more shit than you are complaining about? That's their job and that's why they get paid millions, we pay thousands to point out where we think we need strengthening without needing to be an agent to have the opinion.

It's a transfer rumour thread, maybe a good idea to pop your head in somewhere else.

I do apologise from now on I'll let you tell me where to post on this forum,maybe you should stick to the afc forum where u can have your hissy fits with Louder.You see how Augie could reply to my post without being a prick about it ,it will take more than you to tell me where I can post .

[Gunnersaurus]

How about don't post anywhere and I will stick to there?

Guy comes into a transfer 'speculation' threads and bitches because people are speculating.

Do you fail to see the irony in that?

He did reply to you and more fool him for wasting his time answering your pointless request like the names he named will go direct to the club and they will act on it.

[Gunnersaurus]

Oh, apology accepted...

[mcdowell42]

How about don't post anywhere and I will stick to there?

Guy comes into a transfer 'speculation' threads and bitches because people are speculating.

Do you fail to see the irony in that?

He did reply to you and more fool him for wasting his time answering your pointless request like the names he named will go direct to the club and they will act on it.

Wasn't bitching about posters speculating it was a genuine query which I probably could have worded better.You call Augie a fool for replying to my post ,and then you reply to me 3 times,can you see the irony in that.

[Gunnersaurus]

I didn't call him a fool, I said more fool him for entertaining your pointless post with a name.

More fool me now, might aswel carry on, this who is available is even more futile then naming names, you don't work in those circles and neither do I so you are not informed enough to say who is or not.

Last Summer we badly needed a centre half, none was signed, saw it defended everywhere by some by saying 'no one was available' or 'pointless buying for the sake of it as no one is out there'

In Jan we bought Gabriel after the manager realised what a mistake he made, his club never really put up a fight to keep him unless he was unavailable for transfer while they still thought they had a chance of winning La Liga, The CL, The Europa, The Euro vision Song Contest, Wimbledon and Big Brother, not buying this excuse or reasoning, if the club want a player they need to do more than 'track' them and 'consider bid' and instead look to bring players in because most players are available for the right price.

[GoonerMuzz]

I think what strikers are available is very subjective, nearly everyone would be available for the right price, even Messi or Suarez

However i agree somewhat with McD it would be nice to know who is available in terms of unsettled, near end of contract, cheap etc as they are the more likely candidates in the Arsenal transfer stakes who we could have a slightly more realistic debate about


So anyone got any ideas as i like others don't really pay much attention to the deeper details of the contract market world wide, i do enjoy speculation but it'd be nice to have some idea of who might actually come to us or who we might be able to make a realistic approach to?

Edit: Just to say the reason i'm asking is i've totally given up on the tabloids, websites etc as if we were actually in for half the players we're currently supposedly approaching we'd be able to play a world class Arsenal A,B and C teams

[GranadaJoe]

Top,top strikers?? Messi, CR7, Aguero, Lewandovski, Suarez, Costa, maybe a couple of others.

As much as I like to dream, none are coming to us and given that all top teams have worldwide scouting networks, the chances of us unearthing the next Messi are pretty remote.

So what are the options?

A Reus type signing may not be a bad shout if, van Persie-like he could be converted to a No.9, however, being realistic we are going to have to settle for an upgrade on Giroud. A bit quicker, better anticipation (Martinez maybe). It would put us in a stronger position in the PL but still not able to truly challenge for the title or in Europe.

Depressing.

[g88ner]

Top,top strikers?? Messi, CR7, Aguero, Lewandovski, Suarez, Costa, maybe a couple of others.

As much as I like to dream, none are coming to us and given that all top teams have worldwide scouting networks, the chances of us unearthing the next Messi are pretty remote.

So what are the options?

A Reus type signing may not be a bad shout if, van Persie-like he could be converted to a No.9, however, being realistic we are going to have to settle for an upgrade on Giroud. A bit quicker, better anticipation (Martinez maybe). It would put us in a stronger position in the PL but still not able to truly challenge for the title or in Europe.

Depressing.

Agreed that it's unlikely we'll sign a top, top striker of the calibre you mention above. And yes, we'll probably have to settle for an upgrade on Giroud... or even another season with Giroud as first choice.

However, I do believe you can mitigate not having a world class striker by having attacking midfielders who all chip in. For that to work, I think we'll need Sanchez and Ramsey to have outstanding goalscoring seasons (which they have shown to be capable of) and Giroud to bag 20ish league goals, which is possible.

A fit Theo will also score plenty of goals. He's shown that time and again when fit.

Cut out goals at the other end, as we did with Coquelin in the side and a settled back four, and you have a more balanced team.

I think it'll always be unlikely a Wenger team will finish ahead of Mourinho's Chelsea, but I have seen positive signs of progress... although lets not get into that again

It also helps my optimism that we've signed Sanchez and Ozil in the last 2 summers. It means a can hope/dream of another exciting addition this summer.

I'll try and remain positive until closer to the end of August, at which point it'll be easier to assess our squad in comparison to our rivals.

[augie]

Top,top strikers?? Messi, CR7, Aguero, Lewandovski, Suarez, Costa, maybe a couple of others.

As much as I like to dream, none are coming to us and given that all top teams have worldwide scouting networks, the chances of us unearthing the next Messi are pretty remote.

So what are the options?

A Reus type signing may not be a bad shout if, van Persie-like he could be converted to a No.9, however, being realistic we are going to have to settle for an upgrade on Giroud. A bit quicker, better anticipation (Martinez maybe). It would put us in a stronger position in the PL but still not able to truly challenge for the title or in Europe.

Depressing.

You are talking about the cream of the cream of world strikers that and I doubt that there is a Gooner anywhere that is deluded enough to think that they are realistic targets. There is however, a whole tier of quality strikers below that level that should be within our reach - players like reus, higuain and benzema for example would probably for sale for the right money, so then it comes down to offering a contract that is acceptable to the player concerned. Whether those players fill the needs of our team is another matter entirely but the point is that these players should be the type of quality that we should be targeting regardless of whether they are "available" or not

[g88ner]

Top,top strikers?? Messi, CR7, Aguero, Lewandovski, Suarez, Costa, maybe a couple of others.

As much as I like to dream, none are coming to us and given that all top teams have worldwide scouting networks, the chances of us unearthing the next Messi are pretty remote.

So what are the options?

A Reus type signing may not be a bad shout if, van Persie-like he could be converted to a No.9, however, being realistic we are going to have to settle for an upgrade on Giroud. A bit quicker, better anticipation (Martinez maybe). It would put us in a stronger position in the PL but still not able to truly challenge for the title or in Europe.

Depressing.

You are talking about the cream of the cream of world strikers that and I doubt that there is a Gooner anywhere that is deluded enough to think that they are realistic targets. There is however, a whole tier of quality strikers below that level that should be within our reach - players like reus, higuain and benzema for example would probably for sale for the right money, so then it comes down to offering a contract that is acceptable to the player concerned. Whether those players fill the needs of our team is another matter entirely but the point is that these players should be the type of quality that we should be targeting regardless of whether they are "available" or not

You still need Benzema to be available to have a hope of signing him as Benzema is a first choice regular at Real Madrid and what sane person would swap that for Arsenal? - and why would real Madrid sell unless they had a better player lined up?

The only way we can realistically get him is if Real Madrid have replaced him and deem him expendable.

Reus and Higuain are different though as we're a bigger club and both players may well want to play at a better level: somethng we can't currently offer Benzema.

There's that Lyon player too. And Jackson Martinez. All attainable I'd have thought.

I've no idea if any of them are a significant step up from Giroud though.