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olgitgooner wrote:Yes Indeed AllGuns
I'll all day long with anyone who makes poor judgements about another person or jumps to hasty and stupid conclusions about same.
You can always disagree with another persons opinion without suggesting that they are thick and that you are clever.
Good for you!...They don't like it up em Capt Manwaring!....
olgitgooner wrote:Prior to voting in the referendum I became very interested in the arguments for Leave and Remain. I have never taken such an interest in politics before.
I believe that people should not vote without listening to both sides of the argument. As I did.
Here's a challenge to the Remain voters. If you are not prepared to spend an hour watching the following link, then I suggest your minds are too closed to arrive at a balanced opinion as to whether the EU is a good or bad institution for the modern world.
Haha, that's just made my day. So you based your decision on a video one hour long that explicitly has a bias towards the argument for leaving the EU!!!
I am not going to watch the video in its entirety, but there is a section about Switzerland being outside the EU and thriving. I will tell you why that is aside from having some of the best skiing/winter sports resorts in the world, they have a huge financial services industry. So what are we doing to our Financial Services industry? I will tell you we are creating a situation where the vultures in Paris, Frankfurt hell even Dublin are looking for a slice of the cake for which we have had the largest slice in Europe for decades.
The difference between Switzerland and the UK is they are a tax haven, many of the worlds richest people/businesses park their cash very quietly to avoid paying tax. Do you think the British government/people would be happy to operate in a similar way? People already have a hissy fit when the likes of Apple pay next to no tax in Ireland. More importantly we need to be a tax generative country to pay for our large public sector expenses.
If your decision was truly based on a 1 hour you tube video, then all I can say is you haven't even come close to considering all the facts.
I have said this before, I am a Tory and a massive Euro sceptic, I don't like our laws being dictated to from Brussels. However, I had to research this subject over a number of months and it was clear to me that despite the freedom we will have from EU legislation, the positives of staying in the EU far outweighed the negatives. I have given umpteen reasons to stay in the EU, and my concerns about the implications for this country both before and after the referendum.
So you were prepared to "research the subject over a period of months" but not prepared to watch one single hour of video???!!!!
I watched hours and hours of presentation from both sides of the argument. Much of it misrepresentation of fact. Much of it total drivel. Do not presume to say that I am uninformed. Or that my opinion is based on one single hour of presentation. Or that that I have not "considered all the facts". You are insulting my fucking intelligence.
Perhaps you are smarter than me and can digest information quicker, BUT are you surprised that we came to the conclusion that you just watched this video and made your decision. Posting the video hardly emphasises that you watched material that was broadly neutral does it?
olgitgooner wrote:Yes Indeed AllGuns
I'll all day long with anyone who makes poor judgements about another person or jumps to hasty and stupid conclusions about same.
You can always disagree with another persons opinion without suggesting that they are thick and that you are clever.
Good for you!...They don't like it up em Capt Manwaring!....
You bring it on yourself tbh the brexit video is a classic example. Keep punching away, as an older person you don't like people who disagree with you or prove you wrong. When did I ever say you was thick (although you do need to be thick skinned though old boy to take part in this debate).
£/$ is now $1.22 watch the news, theres loads of stuff on how a weak currency screws our economy. Ready for that inflation next year?
DB10GOONER wrote:Boris really is a moron, isn't he?
Yep, complete moron; qualified to attend a top university, got a good degree, got elected as an mp twice, got elected as a tory mayor in a very labour supporting city twice then got a top government post. Complete and utter moron obviously!
When you put it that way I think I'll qualify my statement by adding that he is a moron reliant upon complete fucking dicktard morons to vote for, and empower, him!
WE WANT TO BE POORER!! HOW DARE ANYONE SUGGEST ANYTHING DIFFERENT!
I want to live in a country with no jobs, not able to afford to buy food or go on any holidays.
how wonderful this post Brexit Britain will be! And this Philip Hammond wants to delay it????
Brexit means Brexit, and I want my country back NOW!
DB10GOONER wrote:Boris really is a moron, isn't he?
Yep, complete moron; qualified to attend a top university, got a good degree, got elected as an mp twice, got elected as a tory mayor in a very labour supporting city twice then got a top government post. Complete and utter moron obviously!
When you put it that way I think I'll qualify my statement by adding that he is a moron reliant upon complete fucking dicktard morons to vote for, and empower, him!
DB10GOONER wrote:Boris really is a moron, isn't he?
Yep, complete moron; qualified to attend a top university, got a good degree, got elected as an mp twice, got elected as a tory mayor in a very labour supporting city twice then got a top government post. Complete and utter moron obviously!
When you put it that way I think I'll qualify my statement by adding that he is a moron reliant upon complete fucking dicktard morons to vote for, and empower, him!
WE WANT TO BE POORER!! HOW DARE ANYONE SUGGEST ANYTHING DIFFERENT!
I want to live in a country with no jobs, not able to afford to buy food or go on any holidays.
how wonderful this post Brexit Britain will be! And this Philip Hammond wants to delay it????
Brexit means Brexit, and I want my country back NOW!
They almost sound like lyrics to a Stiff Little Fingers song!
"Alternative Brexit! I want an Alternative Brexit!"
DB10GOONER wrote:Boris really is a moron, isn't he?
Yep, complete moron; qualified to attend a top university, got a good degree, got elected as an mp twice, got elected as a tory mayor in a very labour supporting city twice then got a top government post. Complete and utter moron obviously!
When you put it that way I think I'll qualify my statement by adding that he is a moron reliant upon complete fucking dicktard morons to vote for, and empower, him!
Johnson as they say in poker circles is a busted flush. His charm and whit cannot overcome what we have seen over the last 6 months, basically a turncoat only interested in one thing, himself. As Foreign Affairs secretary, he has on more than one occasion been humbled and overshadowed by John Kerry, who genuinely is statesman like.
I would refuse to vote in any election for Johnson if he was leader of the Conservatives, for what he has perpetuated in this country. Every day we are seeing more worrying news coming out about the economy, and we haven't even enacted article 50 yet,
olgitgooner wrote:Yes Indeed AllGuns
I'll all day long with anyone who makes poor judgements about another person or jumps to hasty and stupid conclusions about same.
You can always disagree with another persons opinion without suggesting that they are thick and that you are clever.
Good for you!...They don't like it up em Capt Manwaring!....
You bring it on yourself tbh the brexit video is a classic example. Keep punching away, as an older person you don't like people who disagree with you or prove you wrong. When did I ever say you was thick (although you do need to be thick skinned though old boy to take part in this debate).
£/$ is now $1.22 watch the news, theres loads of stuff on how a weak currency screws our economy. Ready for that inflation next year?
nut flush gooner wrote:I have voted conservative pretty much all of my adult life, and voted for Boris to be mayor of london.
nut flush gooner wrote:I would refuse to vote in any election for Johnson
Funny how you brought up those quotes. Are you trying to tell me that you have never changed your mind/opinion on any person or thing in your life?
You can only assess a politician based on what you see, it is only this year that we saw the true Boris Johnson. I am sure there are loads of Conservatives that wouldn't vote for Boris if they had to again.
I am still waiting for many replies in respect of your fundamentally flawed arguments so far.
all day long with anyone who makes poor judgements about another person or jumps to hasty and stupid conclusions about same.
Good for you!...They don't like it up em Capt Manwaring!....
