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p206ab wrote:DM writing that Chelsea is going for Costa now that they will get a hefty fee from selling Mata.
Suuure, they didn't have enough money until now
So the chavs play Manure home and away and then sanction the Mata deal knowing Manure are out of the FAcup and he'd be cup tied anyway and he can't play against them in champs league. Gollum is so 4king desperate for any decent midfielder(with sh*te like Cleverley and Jones who would blame him) that he allows the Russian to trouser 35million+ which is then handed over to Atletico for the beast that is Costa.
So us Shitty,dippers blue and red will face a Manure with Granny shagger and Judas back fit with Mata pulling the strings and possibly Yohan Kebab. Thank god their defence will still be sh*t.
Maybe the chavs might loan us the measly crumbs off their table like Ba or the inferior version of Torres-Torres circa 2014.
Hmm didn't United pay nearly £30m for somebody to end their perennial weakness in (central) midfield in the summer?
Mata would undoubtedly be a welcome addition there but how effectively can they crowbar him into the system? I still don't really know what to make of Kagawa - on one hand many rate him exceptionally highly and are baffled that he's been constantly overlooked whilst others insist he's flattered to deceive whenever he's had a chance. I think the reality probably lies somewhere between the two but one thing I am sure of is that his opportunities have been hindered by United's formation. Playing Mata behind Rooney and van Judas might make for a deadly attacking combination but I don't think the result of the side is good enough to cope against a lot of sides, in the same way that the rest of Spurs' team was far too weak to cope with playing 2 up front against us.
he's a no10 so he can step on rooney's shoes or replace kagawa's occasional appearances in the team.
With the fellani purchase it showed us any resemblance of a midfielder and they'll offer the cash. Mata is a really good player, but it only improves their squad not their team.
northbank123 wrote:Hmm didn't United pay nearly £30m for somebody to end their perennial weakness in (central) midfield in the summer?
Mata would undoubtedly be a welcome addition there but how effectively can they crowbar him into the system? I still don't really know what to make of Kagawa - on one hand many rate him exceptionally highly and are baffled that he's been constantly overlooked whilst others insist he's flattered to deceive whenever he's had a chance. I think the reality probably lies somewhere between the two but one thing I am sure of is that his opportunities have been hindered by United's formation. Playing Mata behind Rooney and van Judas might make for a deadly attacking combination but I don't think the result of the side is good enough to cope against a lot of sides, in the same way that the rest of Spurs' team was far too weak to cope with playing 2 up front against us.
Which is why Kebab will be a great option for them. Him next to Carrick will make for a much better midfield than they have now.
Judas
Mata-Rooney-Janusaz
Carrick-Kebab
That looks deadly and soild at the same time, shame about the sh*te behind them
northbank123 wrote:Hmm didn't United pay nearly £30m for somebody to end their perennial weakness in (central) midfield in the summer?
Mata would undoubtedly be a welcome addition there but how effectively can they crowbar him into the system? I still don't really know what to make of Kagawa - on one hand many rate him exceptionally highly and are baffled that he's been constantly overlooked whilst others insist he's flattered to deceive whenever he's had a chance. I think the reality probably lies somewhere between the two but one thing I am sure of is that his opportunities have been hindered by United's formation. Playing Mata behind Rooney and van Judas might make for a deadly attacking combination but I don't think the result of the side is good enough to cope against a lot of sides, in the same way that the rest of Spurs' team was far too weak to cope with playing 2 up front against us.
Which is why Kebab will be a great option for them. Him next to Carrick will make for a much better midfield than they have now.
Judas
Mata-Rooney-Janusaz
Carrick-Kebab
That looks deadly and soild at the same time, shame about the sh*te behind them
If moyes is shrewd enough then he will play mata behind either a front 2 or behind a lone striker and use him as chief creator. He then should totally clean house with his midfield options - cleverly and nani are basically shit, gigs is too old and kagawa hasn't worked out so imo they should play 3 central midfielders behind mata (carrick, fellaini and one other) and I do rate Valencia so it would be unfortunate for him to miss out but 4-4-2 would require them buying 3 new top quality footballers now and that aint gonna happen.
Was interesting listening to rat faced Neville on sky last Monday night when he was asked if mata would be a good buy for manure and his response hit the nail on the head for me cos he said that they need to make a big buy - he didn't go into a tactical system discussion or discuss mata's abilities but instead focused on the need for the club to make a big statement by signing a top top player. In recent seasons this has been something that our CIC and board have failed to grasp - selling your top players creates a very negative image of your club regardless of how big your club is and it seems that moyes and the manure board have realised this quickly (much quicker than our c*nts ) and are now willing to overspend on mata who is a quality player but not worth 40m
northbank123 wrote:Hmm didn't United pay nearly £30m for somebody to end their perennial weakness in (central) midfield in the summer?
Mata would undoubtedly be a welcome addition there but how effectively can they crowbar him into the system? I still don't really know what to make of Kagawa - on one hand many rate him exceptionally highly and are baffled that he's been constantly overlooked whilst others insist he's flattered to deceive whenever he's had a chance. I think the reality probably lies somewhere between the two but one thing I am sure of is that his opportunities have been hindered by United's formation. Playing Mata behind Rooney and van Judas might make for a deadly attacking combination but I don't think the result of the side is good enough to cope against a lot of sides, in the same way that the rest of Spurs' team was far too weak to cope with playing 2 up front against us.
Which is why Kebab will be a great option for them. Him next to Carrick will make for a much better midfield than they have now.
Judas
Mata-Rooney-Janusaz
Carrick-Kebab
That looks deadly and soild at the same time, shame about the sh*te behind them
Is Kebab Cabaye?
Yes, thank Joe Kinnear for that, as well Charles Insomnia and Cissy
northbank123 wrote:Hmm didn't United pay nearly £30m for somebody to end their perennial weakness in (central) midfield in the summer?
Mata would undoubtedly be a welcome addition there but how effectively can they crowbar him into the system? I still don't really know what to make of Kagawa - on one hand many rate him exceptionally highly and are baffled that he's been constantly overlooked whilst others insist he's flattered to deceive whenever he's had a chance. I think the reality probably lies somewhere between the two but one thing I am sure of is that his opportunities have been hindered by United's formation. Playing Mata behind Rooney and van Judas might make for a deadly attacking combination but I don't think the result of the side is good enough to cope against a lot of sides, in the same way that the rest of Spurs' team was far too weak to cope with playing 2 up front against us.
Which is why Kebab will be a great option for them. Him next to Carrick will make for a much better midfield than they have now.
Judas
Mata-Rooney-Janusaz
Carrick-Kebab
That looks deadly and soild at the same time, shame about the sh*te behind them
Is Kebab Cabaye?
Yes, thank Joe Kinnear for that, as well Charles Insomnia and Cissy
now I remember.
Personally I think if you're playing 4 out-and-out attackers you'd be better off swapping Cabaye for somebody that will offer a lot more in terms of screening the defence and covering ground defensively otherwise you just have too many luxury players. Carrick is able to sit deep and has a good passing range but let's be honest he's pretty immobile for a CM at the top level. Somebody like Phil Jones but good at football.
I would also worry a bit about the lack of width in that side with Mata coming infield. I think United have generally been significantly dependent on width since re-inventing themselves after a few barren years 2004-2006 and also think that without wide players who are willing to track back the likes of Fabio and Evra are going to get absolutely raped down the flanks with the knock-on effect of Vidic and Evans being made to look like carthorses as they get dragged out of position all the time.
rodders999 wrote:They wouldn't loan us corn flakes knees but will sell Mata to the mancs. Strange.
The AKB theory on this would be that United are no longer a rival whilst we are genuine title contenders
My take on it is that the Chavs have a better relationship with United, and in particular the Moaning One with Moyes rather than There's Only One
Either way, United are about to sign a bloke who has proved himself to be one of the best midfielders in the PL over the past couple of years and much as we mock them have taken the first major step to correct a glaring gap in their team. We on the other hand are dreaming that N'tep might sign
northbank123 wrote:Personally I think if you're playing 4 out-and-out attackers you'd be better off swapping Cabaye for somebody that will offer a lot more in terms of screening the defence and covering ground defensively otherwise you just have too many luxury players.
Agree.
Not that I want Man Utd to do well, but if I was their boss I would be trying to bring in four players -
Mata.
An out-and out tackling defensive midfielder because Carrick is an all rounder, so is Fellaini.
A top level experienced centre back to marshall the defence.
now I remember.
