THE WENGER THREAD

[officepest]

Just watched the video of the team getting on the train and I have to I found it painful to see, I know everyone and his horse has an opinion at the moment, but come on reflect what this man has done for this club! You can have supported this club for a 100 years but we've not seen better football under ANY other manager!! I agree his time is up but that's no way to act towards him.

as much as I hate him you are right it is painful to watch,it saddens me that its come to this but sadly the board wont/cant shift him as he has become a dictator and in his eyes he is Arsenal.the thing to remember though is that even dictators like Saddam Hussein and Hitler showed compassion at times which made you realise they were human and just sad old man,but it doesn't detract from the fact they were in it for their own personal gains and didnt actually give a flying fuck about anybody but there own twisted egos and ideals.8m a year to deliver nothing but bullshit,to run a gauntlet of hate at stoke train station is nothing to a man who can single handedly bring down a great club for the sake of his own massive ego and rake in that sort of wage,it takes the piss on all levels.we want OUR Arsenal back but we are gonna have to wrestle it away from his vice like grip,he needs telling Arsenal was ours before he got here and will be ours long after he's gone,Arsenal belongs to us not him,he was supposed to be taking care of it for for us,not making it his own project and moulding it to his own taste,the stupid fucking cartoon crest,the soulless space bowl with the highest ticket prices I could go on and on,oh to be at highbury with GG in charge,theres a man who bled red and white and managed Arsenal with the passion and pride only a true Arsenal man can,as for Wenker the man that lead the invincibles is gone long gone,the one we have now is a shell of a man who has brought this on himself sadly

It's probably worth reading this back to yourself old chap.

[northbank123]

The thing is on twitter there is a backlash against the abuse Wenger received.

As I said on here yesterday it's fine to want Wenger out but if the protests become too abusive it will backfire

Isn't it about time someone at the club had a word with Wenger about the sense in continuing?

Good idea, I nominate Mr Chips: "We back Arsene when he has a plan. We stay quiet when he doesn’t."

Thank fuck we have all these wise and well-connected businessmen like Chips and Hill-Wood knocking around the club. The most useful thing those twats can will ever do for the club is fall off their fucking perch and die.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Arsene Wenger, Adolf Hitler and Saddam Husain in the same conversation some people really have no clue!

I know. When did Adolph and Saddam ever find themselves 3 down to Stoke at half-time?

[StuartL]

Arsene Wenger, Adolf Hitler and Saddam Husain in the same conversation some people really have no clue!

I know. When did Adolph and Saddam ever find themselves 3 down to Stoke at half-time?

Judge them in May, or in Hitler's case Springtime.

[officepest]

The thing is on twitter there is a backlash against the abuse Wenger received.

As I said on here yesterday it's fine to want Wenger out but if the protests become too abusive it will backfire

Isn't it about time someone at the club had a word with Wenger about the sense in continuing?

Good idea, I nominate Mr Chips: "We back Arsene when he has a plan. We stay quiet when he doesn’t."

Thank fuck we have all these wise and well-connected businessmen like Chips and Hill-Wood knocking around the club. The most useful thing those twats can will ever do for the club is fall off their fucking perch and die.

Indeed.

We need 'custodians' such as Hill-Wood to reassure us that: "we don't want his sort" - before promptly selling out to, err, exactly his sort.

Pass the Tanqueray, old bean.

[Gunnersaurus]

Those abusing him do their - and our - cause no favours by shouting such vile obscenities at him. By all means swear and insult him on forums, but you do not act like that to someone's face; it makes you look childish. It's not constructive, he doesn't deserve it and everyone who wants a change is going to be tarred with the same brush.

The way to enact change is through initiatives like the banner; tastefully worded and respectful yet to the point. Like it or not image holds large swaying power over the majority of the public and if the face of the Wenger Out campaign is a collection of middle aged men swearing at an old man boarding a train then it's not going to get very far.

He's not Saddam Hussein. We're not trying to topple some sort of all powerful dictator with violence as the only available avenue, as much as it sometimes feels like it.

That video is going to swing it back in his favour, no doubt about it, most are frustrated with him but not all hate him I'm guessing, wanting him gone is fair enough but getting in his face like that doesn't make good viewing.

Do not be surprised if this backfires now and you get a show of support for him at the Newcastle game, love him or hate him he has done some good for the club and people will watch that and I'm guessing very few will watch it comfortably.

[augie]

As a fan who has wanted the French cock out of our club for years now, can I just say that all these comments slating fans for abusing him sum up what is wrong with our fans - no Gooner WANTS to abuse him (except maybe me, sid, rodders, fwank, mikey ) but the reality is that the board will not sack him and he will not walk away so that means we simply HAVE TO drive him out. Even the journo's on sunday supplement this morning suggested that it is the fans alone who will decide when he goes because nobody on the board has the balls to remove him. One of the journo's said that the abuse he received at the villa game last season really shook him and he needs more of the same if we want to remove him. I would also say that if we do not force him out, the likelihood is that he would ease himself into a position on the board and that is an unacceptable thought imo. Again one of the journo's this morning stated that he is trying to think of a way that wenker's reign will end in a nice manner but all he can see is a very messy ending

[augie]

Those abusing him do their - and our - cause no favours by shouting such vile obscenities at him. By all means swear and insult him on forums, but you do not act like that to someone's face; it makes you look childish. It's not constructive, he doesn't deserve it and everyone who wants a change is going to be tarred with the same brush.

The way to enact change is through initiatives like the banner; tastefully worded and respectful yet to the point. Like it or not image holds large swaying power over the majority of the public and if the face of the Wenger Out campaign is a collection of middle aged men swearing at an old man boarding a train then it's not going to get very far.

He's not Saddam Hussein. We're not trying to topple some sort of all powerful dictator with violence as the only available avenue, as much as it sometimes feels like it.

That video is going to swing it back in his favour, no doubt about it, most are frustrated with him but not all hate him I'm guessing, wanting him gone is fair enough but getting in his face like that doesn't make good viewing.

Do not be surprised if this backfires now and you get a show of support for him at the Newcastle game, love him or hate him he has done some good for the club and people will watch that and I'm guessing very few will watch it comfortably.

You are not suggesting another redaction march are you ?

[GoonerMuzz]

I wonder why it acceptable for Wenger to treat the paying fans however he pleases, to make deeply insulting remarks about them and their understanding of the difficulties of football but when it comes to fans rightfully venting their anger it is seen as crass and unseemly.

Wenger is a highly educated individual, easily able to disguise his sneering and arrogant attitude to the fans in hyperbole. Many of our fans and i include myself here are less educated and from a much more working class background. We also do not have the advantage of being able to get our views across in the media which he is more than able to do at every opportunity.

So i ask other than shouting abuse at the man at every opportunity how exactly are we supposed to make our point? Banners, A4 posters etc have had exactly zero real effect, but in reality i'm not even sure shouting abuse at him will have any more effect.

In fact to be honest the media have actually had a field day making our fans out to be petulant and ungrateful, 's recently.

I actually despair of our fan base, so many sets of other fans have been more than able to put massive pressure on unwanted managers and get rid if them yet at AFC we spend more time criticising each other and picking holes than actually organising something meaningful.

I actually think due to the divisions in our fan base we are in many ways getting exactly what we deserve.

[officepest]

You are not suggesting another redaction march are you ?

Careful now.

[Gunnersaurus]

Those abusing him do their - and our - cause no favours by shouting such vile obscenities at him. By all means swear and insult him on forums, but you do not act like that to someone's face; it makes you look childish. It's not constructive, he doesn't deserve it and everyone who wants a change is going to be tarred with the same brush.

The way to enact change is through initiatives like the banner; tastefully worded and respectful yet to the point. Like it or not image holds large swaying power over the majority of the public and if the face of the Wenger Out campaign is a collection of middle aged men swearing at an old man boarding a train then it's not going to get very far.

He's not Saddam Hussein. We're not trying to topple some sort of all powerful dictator with violence as the only available avenue, as much as it sometimes feels like it.

That video is going to swing it back in his favour, no doubt about it, most are frustrated with him but not all hate him I'm guessing, wanting him gone is fair enough but getting in his face like that doesn't make good viewing.

Do not be surprised if this backfires now and you get a show of support for him at the Newcastle game, love him or hate him he has done some good for the club and people will watch that and I'm guessing very few will watch it comfortably.

You are not suggesting another redaction march are you ?

No but I think they will be all too happy to start the 'One Arsene Wenger' in show if support and many will follow out of pity.

Assuming we are winning.

[markyp]

Arsene Wenger, Adolf Hitler and Saddam Husain in the same conversation some people really have no clue!

and how long you supported arsenal mate,they are all dictators of one form or another,Arsene thinks he is above everybody that includes you my friend,we are shit in his eyes,how dare we call him out.i find it unbelievable the hate that was felt towards Thatcher when she died,where did you stand on that issue,were you saying the hate for her was wrong,i bet you weren't,did you laugh at the effergies of her being burnt,did you laugh at the effergy of beckham left swinging by the neck after the 98 world cup cos I didn't.dont say I have no clue,i stood on the north bank at highbury when we were shit,Arsenal runs through my veins and I want the dictator gone,fans like you are keeping him in a job,its only passion from fans that will remove him,i have a black cloud hanging over me cos of the mess hes put us in,when you feel the same about Arsenal you will understand

[Grant jones]

Arsene Wenger, Adolf Hitler and Saddam Husain in the same conversation some people really have no clue!

I know. When did Adolph and Saddam ever find themselves 3 down to Stoke at half-time?

Judge them in May, or in Hitler's case Springtime.

That's more like it someone talking some sense

[Ikechukwu1]

Arsene Wenger, Adolf Hitler and Saddam Husain in the same conversation some people really have no clue!

I know. When did Adolph and Saddam ever find themselves 3 down to Stoke at half-time?

Judge them in May, or in Hitler's case Springtime.

ROFL

[augie]

Arsene Wenger, Adolf Hitler and Saddam Husain in the same conversation some people really have no clue!

I know. When did Adolph and Saddam ever find themselves 3 down to Stoke at half-time?

Judge them in May, or in Hitler's case Springtime.

That's more like it someone talking some sense

Might be a little sarcasm is stuart's post I would think