I have just pm'd you mate,(Hashkads would have jumped on that one!armchair wrote:Mate we are Arsenal. We have class. Im actually surprised at you.
Thee has been nothing but respectful banners and peaceful protest thus far. Cant imagine why you would even think that?
), to see what I can do.
Jamie Carragher can fuck off, the bin-dipping hypocritical *word censored*. Give Wanker one more year? Fuck off, you weren't saying that about Brendan Rogers last Autumn were you? As far as I remember, he was all about getting rid of him there and then. Shut the fuck up, you illiterate, mouser prick.Clash wrote:The c--t deserves abuse mate because he has been abusing his position and the people who pay his extortionate wages for years.DB10GOONER wrote:That is fucking disgraceful. Nazi bastards.armchair wrote:Arsenal steward manhandling and physically obstructing a press photographer from taking photos of the Wenger Out banners. Thanks to Redsenga for the pic.
Lads, I hope the new banner has some impact - but please tell me it is not abusive. An abusive banner loses us every inch we might have gained in terms of the media asking "Well why are these Gooners upset?" and maybe getting the ball rolling on removing Wenger. Abusive banners will just be dismissed by the media (and the board) as the work of spoilt kids or chavs.
Its because we've been so fucking polite and respectful that that that wanker is still fucking here and still taking so many fucking liberties. We have been too soft on him. He has no respect for us, he is not at all afraid of us. He is a massive fucking c--t who knows damn well he wouldnt get away with what he does at Arsenal anywhere else.
I understand your point about the media ... but frankly fuck the media. Who cares about them or what they say. They're all pathetic. Arsenal fans should only do what is right for Arsenal. Which is to hound Wenger out ASAP!
Even now in the media people are still defending Wenger so bollocks to the lot of 'em. Nothing but a bunch of spineless fuckers who are frightened to express a real opinion because they are all part of the old boys club where they feed odd each other for their own self-serving agendas.
Overrated pricks like Henry Winter are now finally seeing the light ... having spent most of the last 10 years on his fucking knees pandering to Wenger. Repeating the nauseating and misleading myths that have protected him for so long.
Jamie Carragher says in his coluimn today how there will be a buzz on the opening day next season at several clubs - then asks if there will be one at Arsenal. 'No' he says ... before then going on to say he wants Wenger to get his last year as he has earned it. So Arsenal fans just have to write off a whole season for the sake of one very selfish arrogant old man! Why?
Wenger lives off past glories in a way no other manager is allowed to. Alf Ramsey won the world cup ... 7 years later he got sacked for not qualifying for another world cup after failing to beat a very good Poland side who went on the the semi final. Hadn't Alf earned the right to decide to leave when he wants? Of course not! It's a fucking ridiculous thing to say.
Wenger has earned to right to one more year ... of being abused!
Whatever the banners say, well done to everyone involved. Unless its a banner defending Wenger I have no problem with it at all.
But I welcome abusive banners every bit as much as polite ones.
That was a 'joke' mate..DB10GOONER wrote:Not really aimed at you and this banner, buddy - more a comment about the suggestions above that we use banners saying "fuck off" etc. The banners so far have been brilliant tbh.armchair wrote:Mate we are Arsenal. We have class. Im actually surprised at you.
Thee has been nothing but respectful banners and peaceful protest thus far. Cant imagine why you would even think that?
I'm just hoping someone doesn't try to be clever and go get an abusive one made and let everyone down.
are you on blob or sumfink!? ...I know these are Very depressing time Arsenal wise ..But Really...get a grip! 
It defeats the whole point of our argument...They will be seen as Crass, Ill-educated - and Offensive...In order to help get Wenger gone - like it r not - we (Gooners) HAVE TO get the Media on our side....remember last season when the gooners called him a *word censored* at the railway station and the media/pundits/neutrals immediately jumped on that - Saying it was unnecessary - and in some ways they are right....We all want him gone - But whilst some individuals Hate him - Some simply want him gone without any (real) harm/hurt/pain....As much as he is in illusion over how the club should be managed...and as much as he is 'past it' - (IMO) although I know 1,000% he IS Wrong and I want him GONE - He (in his own deluded way) still Loves the club - which is why all of this is so painful and so awful........And which is why it is tearing the Gooners apart - because it isn't just a matter of logic...But a matter of long held affection....Perryashburtongroves wrote:Jamie Carragher can fuck off, the bin-dipping hypocritical *word censored*. Give Wanker one more year? Fuck off, you weren't saying that about Brendan Rogers last Autumn were you? As far as I remember, he was all about getting rid of him there and then. Shut the fuck up, you illiterate, mouser prick.Clash wrote:The c--t deserves abuse mate because he has been abusing his position and the people who pay his extortionate wages for years.DB10GOONER wrote:That is fucking disgraceful. Nazi bastards.armchair wrote:Arsenal steward manhandling and physically obstructing a press photographer from taking photos of the Wenger Out banners. Thanks to Redsenga for the pic.
Lads, I hope the new banner has some impact - but please tell me it is not abusive. An abusive banner loses us every inch we might have gained in terms of the media asking "Well why are these Gooners upset?" and maybe getting the ball rolling on removing Wenger. Abusive banners will just be dismissed by the media (and the board) as the work of spoilt kids or chavs.
Its because we've been so fucking polite and respectful that that that wanker is still fucking here and still taking so many fucking liberties. We have been too soft on him. He has no respect for us, he is not at all afraid of us. He is a massive fucking c--t who knows damn well he wouldnt get away with what he does at Arsenal anywhere else.
I understand your point about the media ... but frankly fuck the media. Who cares about them or what they say. They're all pathetic. Arsenal fans should only do what is right for Arsenal. Which is to hound Wenger out ASAP!
Even now in the media people are still defending Wenger so bollocks to the lot of 'em. Nothing but a bunch of spineless fuckers who are frightened to express a real opinion because they are all part of the old boys club where they feed odd each other for their own self-serving agendas.
Overrated pricks like Henry Winter are now finally seeing the light ... having spent most of the last 10 years on his fucking knees pandering to Wenger. Repeating the nauseating and misleading myths that have protected him for so long.
Jamie Carragher says in his coluimn today how there will be a buzz on the opening day next season at several clubs - then asks if there will be one at Arsenal. 'No' he says ... before then going on to say he wants Wenger to get his last year as he has earned it. So Arsenal fans just have to write off a whole season for the sake of one very selfish arrogant old man! Why?
Wenger lives off past glories in a way no other manager is allowed to. Alf Ramsey won the world cup ... 7 years later he got sacked for not qualifying for another world cup after failing to beat a very good Poland side who went on the the semi final. Hadn't Alf earned the right to decide to leave when he wants? Of course not! It's a fucking ridiculous thing to say.
Wenger has earned to right to one more year ... of being abused!
Whatever the banners say, well done to everyone involved. Unless its a banner defending Wenger I have no problem with it at all.
But I welcome abusive banners every bit as much as polite ones.
That Truly IS Disgusting....they are like the Gestapo...I can see it getting very nasty between WOB's and the Gestapo before long - Of course any steward will have been told what they must do etc...But when it does kick off - If a protesting Gooner gets hurt - the club (and so the media) will slant it that he/she was a hooligan - or whatever - Whereas if a steward - an employee of the club / company gets hurt - whilst trying to do their job - It will be all the fault of the protesters and so any justification for the protest will be lost amidst the sympathy etc for the syeward/employee - which is why Kroenke, Gazidis and wenger have us over a barrel...armchair wrote:Arsenal steward manhandling and physically obstructing a press photographer from taking photos of the Wenger Out banners. Thanks to Redsenga for the pic.
Agree with your point the on filming or photo's, must admit the first time that any signifianct banners have been lifted at Wengers Bowl of Hate, but we took them by surprise, next time they will have clear instructions to pull them down or take some action - suggested approach would be in the middle of a row and have a few buddies at either end to block any stewards and then a video / picture taker to back / protect you in event that they get nasty / mob handed...GoonerMuzz wrote:I would advise that any and all interference by the stasi to peaceful protest within the ground is filmed on mobiles (i know we criticise people using them but for once lets use them in the fans favour) and released on every social media website going and if necessary sent to every news outlet should it be bad enough.
There is a limit to what the stewards are allowed to do in terms of physically interfering with paying customers and quite often they over step the bounds without even realising it, this is not aimed to get them into trouble but it will highlight the fact that club would be actively attempting to stifle peaceful protest whilst quite happily not interfering with those supporting the manager and the owner and would definitely cause the club embarrassment.
You make some good points and I understand why you're seeing it that way. Personally I do not care what the media or fans of other clubs think - I preferred the days when they hated us!OneBardGooner wrote:
It defeats the whole point of our argument...They will be seen as Crass, Ill-educated - and Offensive...In order to help get Wenger gone - like it r not - we (Gooners) HAVE TO get the Media on our side....remember last season when the gooners called him a *word censored* at the railway station and the media/pundits/neutrals immediately jumped on that - Saying it was unnecessary - and in some ways they are right....We all want him gone - But whilst some individuals Hate him - Some simply want him gone without any (real) harm/hurt/pain....As much as he is in illusion over how the club should be managed...and as much as he is 'past it' - (IMO) although I know 1,000% he IS Wrong and I want him GONE - He (in his own deluded way) still Loves the club - which is why all of this is so painful and so awful........And which is why it is tearing the Gooners apart - because it isn't just a matter of logic...But a matter of long held affection....
So any Banner that is abusive simply tilts the argument away from what we all want.
[/quote] I oscillate between being sad that it has come to this re Wenger and very angry with him. No doubt he did good for our club, but he doesn't seem to be able to let go, or even recognise it is time to go. But, being abusive towards him does make us look classless and that fronts the argument, and many people cannot get past that. Be respectful, but clear when protesting.
towards the fans.SteveO 35 wrote:Where I draw the line is absolutely tasteless shit like wishing he was dead or calling him a paedophile. I know there's at least one particular poster on here who finds that acceptable but perhaps that says more about him seeing as these days its pretty much only sung at the home of his favourite team.
There isn't anything I've seen so far that's offensive. To hear the moral outrage at a few "fuck off"'s - a throwaway expression used in everyday life - and the reaction to the Stoke Three who did little more than boo, use a couple of everyday swear words and told Campbell to "get out while you can" was the most overblown reaction to a piece of nothing ever. Those that were 'appalled' or 'outraged' should really trying searching a bit harder to find something to be 'appalled' about - try switching on the news for 10 minutes
I would say our banners confirm our status as one of the most respectful, polite sets of supporters anywhere in the world !
Of course it was - But that is how PR departments in big companies/organisations operate...They not only played on Wenger being an elderly person - Can't recall the exact words...But they also called in a few players from the past - some pundits - some just on the Arsenal gravy train that exists at the bowl (and all big clubs) to say how they thought it was disrespectful...how it was a step too far to 'threaten' Wenger...they took (as you say a few throw away words) and twisted them so that they became 'threats'....Which is why (at least until there are at least 100 banners on show) we need to do what we do in a 'civilised' manner and so not give the club/wenger/PR Dept/ the media ANY ammunition...It isn't easy and makes the protesting process long and drawn out - And we are all guilty to an extent of not doing something sooner...BUT now that there is clearly a recognisable movement against Wenger and Kroenke - and that it has momentum - we cannot allow it to lose momentum - It needs to continue throughout the summer period....so that it doesn't get forgotten or over-looked...So that any games in the pre-season are also have the Wenger Out banners very present..SteveO 35 wrote:Where I draw the line is absolutely tasteless shit like wishing he was dead or calling him a paedophile. I know there's at least one particular poster on here who finds that acceptable but perhaps that says more about him seeing as these days its pretty much only sung at the home of his favourite team.
There isn't anything I've seen so far that's offensive. To hear the moral outrage at a few "fuck off"'s - a throwaway expression used in everyday life - and the reaction to the Stoke Three who did little more than boo, use a couple of everyday swear words and told Campbell to "get out while you can" was the most overblown reaction to a piece of nothing ever. Those that were 'appalled' or 'outraged' should really trying searching a bit harder to find something to be 'appalled' about - try switching on the news for 10 minutes
I would say our banners confirm our status as one of the most respectful, polite sets of supporters anywhere in the world !
