THE WENGER THREAD

[officepest]

A rough comparisons I might make is during the peak years of Mike Tyson.
Did you expect his opponents to win?
The fights were a foregone conclusion.

After seeing him demolish Trevor Berbick to win the title I said that the only one who can beat Tyson is Tyson himself, and that is what happened against Buster Douglas, when an undertrained, depressed, alchohol and cocaine fuelled Tyson no longer had enough left to beat a respectable and strong but technically inferior opponent.

I watched that Quartz, Douglas should have been counted out when dropped by Tyson. He was given what seemed like 15 seconds.

[northbank123]

The media love painting us either as mugs or impatient glory-hunters, so people getting uppity about a few blokes giving Wenger some pretty mild stick (let's be fair) is a tiny price to pay if it brings more light to the issue and more pressure on Wenger.

And I fully agree with g88ner - I am no conspiracy theorist and I don't think he goes out to lose games but I 100% believe that he places his own interests above the club. He is not win at all costs, I don't see how anybody could argue he is. The 'financial constraints' he's been bashing on for years about - he's been milking us for as much as any manager on the planet. He can't possibly have believed we were adequately stocked defensively this season but he's so fucking stubborn. Explicitly stating that he doesn't consider the opposition when setting up sums up how his stubbornness and ego run directly against the interests of the club.

Fuck him, fuck precious pricks sitting on their pedestals like that *word censored* Lineker, and well done on those people who have done infinitely more than most (myself included) to conduct any form of meaningful protests. Hopefully next time there will be 10,000 people treating him with utter contempt, will be a tiny repayment of the tens of thousands of fans that he makes clear he doesn't give a flying fuck about every week. And a bit of a nasty atmosphere might help shake up our fucking pampered pussies who are on twice as much as they'd earn anywhere else and are protected from any criticism.

[officepest]

The media love painting us either as mugs or impatient glory-hunters, so people getting uppity about a few blokes giving Wenger some pretty mild stick (let's be fair) is a tiny price to pay if it brings more light to the issue and more pressure on Wenger.

And I fully agree with g88ner - I am no conspiracy theorist and I don't think he goes out to lose games but I 100% believe that he places his own interests above the club. He is not win at all costs, I don't see how anybody could argue he is. The 'financial constraints' he's been bashing on for years about - he's been milking us for as much as any manager on the planet. He can't possibly have believed we were adequately stocked defensively this season but he's so fucking stubborn. Explicitly stating that he doesn't consider the opposition when setting up sums up how his stubbornness and ego run directly against the interests of the club.

Fuck him, fuck precious pricks sitting on their pedestals like that *word censored* Lineker, and well done on those people who have done infinitely more than most (myself included) to conduct any form of meaningful protests. Hopefully next time there will be 10,000 people treating him with utter contempt, will be a tiny repayment of the tens of thousands of fans that he makes clear he doesn't give a flying fuck about every week. And a bit of a nasty atmosphere might help shake up our fucking pampered pussies who are on twice as much as they'd earn anywhere else and are protected from any criticism.

The single most gob-smacking and unbelievable utterance ever from a supposed elite level manager. So ridiculous that even David Icke would think: "hang on, that's pushing things too far".

If any other manager had let that little gem slip from their lips the papers would be shifting copy for weeks but for some reason, Wenger seems beyond reproach.

He can do what he wants, when he wants and he fucking well knows it.

[clockender1]

this will cheer you lot up - despite what the media says, Wenger has resigned before - in 1987, when he relegated Nancy to Ligue Deux, a year after winning the French FA Cup.

and he also resigned from Grampus 8 according to David Dein, with Arsenal promising a commercial deal and helped Jose Costa take over as Caretaker until Carlos Quierez could come in.

heres hoping

[augie]

"We are far from the level of Man City and Chelsea, have been for years, and I expect to lose against them every season until Wenger goes."

Quartz the problem with your above statement suggests that our problems centre solely on our inability to compete with the chavs and citeeh - the reality is that we are getting turned over by shite like the inbreds on a regular basis these days and it is fast become the norm instead of the exception. Any manager with half a tactical brain can make a fool of wenker and that is shameful and money isn't a factor in that

[VoiceOfReason]

Also, it makes a mockery of those wankers who say, "You shouldn't protest inside the stadium".

Because you then do it outside the stadium, and what happens? They cry just as hard.

[QuartzGooner]

Any manager with half a tactical brain can make a fool of wenker and that is shameful and money isn't a factor in that

Which is a point I made in my long previous post.

[VoiceOfReason]

Any manager with half a tactical brain can make a fool of wenker and that is shameful and money isn't a factor in that

Sam Allardyce, Tony Pulis, Mark Hughes... all managers who tactically outmaster Wenger on a recurring basis.

It used to be that they sent out teams to kick us to pieces, but that's so 2006. These days, they have more fun sending out sides who simply outplay us.

[Ikechukwu1]

Arsene said judge him in May so quit the moaning. You'll all be eating out of his hand once he achieves 4th place once again. Considering everyone is predicting we'll finish 10th, it'll be some achievement if Arsene manages to pip West Ham and S'oton

[Ikechukwu1]

http://arsenaltruth.squarespace.com/ars ... ttack.html

Great piece

[clockender1]

this is my #1 reason for wanting him gone - every opposition manager knows in advance what wenger will do, and wenger then doesn't change it in game when it doesn't work....

you can give wenger all the money he wants and 11 world class players and he still wouldn't be good value for his wages.

its the same with the training, fitness and medical practices - year after year they are shown to be weak - kos is out again btw, and yet wenger believes 'patience' is the key

I am going to be fascinated to see if pardew and rodgers - despite the dodgy form of both teams, can outsmart him. i think one or both will as its not difficult.

the more i look at wengers track record the dodgier it seems - 3 years at Nancy - relegated and resigned, 4 years at monaco - successful with a tax free open cheque book, then finished 17th and sacked, two years in japan then onto the best back five in world football plus parlour and bergkamp....

and today he once again says "you cannot judge me on one game, judge me in May"....that 'one game though happens 6-7 times a season though

the guy is a fraud. a very rich one - Forbes says his net worth is 36 million.

[clockender1]

http://arsenaltruth.squarespace.com/ars ... ttack.html

Great piece

every AKB should memorize this :

Wenger hardly has cause for complaint, as he has been found guilty of swearing and insulting fourth officials during matches, for which he has been charged. I see no difference between Wenger’s frustration boiling over due to what he regards as inept officiating and the fans’ frustration at his inept management.

Some supporters have called on others to make their minds up about Wenger at the end of the season, but this is not feasible, as by that point there is no way for supporters to express their dissatisfaction. Wenger simply goes on holiday and comes back months later espousing the same old rubbish and the whole circle starts again.

He knows this of course, hence his requests for everyone to judge him in May, before cowardly vanishing without making himself answerable to his promises of accountability.

[Offside]

Judge him in May.....2017.

[QuartzGooner]

If we buy new central midfielder in summer, he MUST be a good tackler. A hard man, a ballwinner, with energy.

I posted that during the 2007 -2008 season.

I am not sure there is anything left to say.........seven seasons on and what has changed?

[clockender1]

Judge him in May.....2017.

about time we held our AGM's in May then.