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Allgunsblazin wrote:I sleep well at night whilst Maggie May sorts the Brussels Sprouts out!
In the 70's EEC the exchange rate was worse than it is now but our exporters must be kerchinging all the way to the bank!

To compare UK in 2016 with the 70s is a joke. You might as well go back to the Industrial Revolution.

Our country and Economy has progressed so much since the 70s, but your currency theory is fundamentally floored. The weak currency means WE pay more than people for goods in this country because the companies that make these things have higher raw material costs, that's why all of the price rises mooted over the last few weeks have gained such publicity. Yes some of them won't get through right now, but you can be sure they are being stored up in the pipeline.

If British companies are under pressure to put their prices up, and they can't then that means they make less profit. So either salaries don't keep up with inflation or people get layed off.

DB10GOONER wrote:

northbank123 wrote:Bit bemused because walking into work this morning I didn't see any looting, feral canines or blazing buildings.

Or is the sky only going to fall in when we trigger article 50? Or actually leave? I forget.

I'm struggling to believe you walked anywhere, mate. Were you not grabbed by the cops and thrown in a cell for rape?

The police stopped me but thankfully saw sense when I explained that she was obviously "asking for it"

nut flush gooner wrote:

Allgunsblazin wrote:I sleep well at night whilst Maggie May sorts the Brussels Sprouts out!
In the 70's EEC the exchange rate was worse than it is now but our exporters must be kerchinging all the way to the bank!

To compare UK in 2016 with the 70s is a joke. You might as well go back to the Industrial Revolution.

Our country and Economy has progressed so much since the 70s, but your currency theory is fundamentally floored. The weak currency means WE pay more than people for goods in this country because the companies that make these things have higher raw material costs, that's why all of the price rises mooted over the last few weeks have gained such publicity. Yes some of them won't get through right now, but you can be sure they are being stored up in the pipeline.


If British companies are under pressure to put their prices up, and they can't then that means they make less profit. So either salaries don't keep up with inflation or people get layed off.

Flawed as in your response!
BHS being a prime example....

Allgunsblazin wrote:

nut flush gooner wrote:

Allgunsblazin wrote:I sleep well at night whilst Maggie May sorts the Brussels Sprouts out!
In the 70's EEC the exchange rate was worse than it is now but our exporters must be kerchinging all the way to the bank!

To compare UK in 2016 with the 70s is a joke. You might as well go back to the Industrial Revolution.

Our country and Economy has progressed so much since the 70s, but your currency theory is fundamentally floored. The weak currency means WE pay more than people for goods in this country because the companies that make these things have higher raw material costs, that's why all of the price rises mooted over the last few weeks have gained such publicity. Yes some of them won't get through right now, but you can be sure they are being stored up in the pipeline.


If British companies are under pressure to put their prices up, and they can't then that means they make less profit. So either salaries don't keep up with inflation or people get layed off.

Flawed as in your response!
BHS being a prime example....

What? BHS doesn't exist anymore.......

I really don't see the relevance to the debate. The former owner deserves to be stripped of his knighthood but that is a totally different matter.

You have only looked at part of the consequences of having a weak currency. If such a scenario was desirable, then every country would devalue their currency, but they don't.

It's hard not to come across as condescending, when people just time and time again prove they know nothing about the true issues of Brexit.

Hilarious interview by James O'Brien with a brexiteer..........

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/j ... to-losing/

Love the way the geezer tries to come across as knowing his stuff only to be completely unravelled on national radio by O'Brien. Where do I see that happening ..............

nut flush gooner wrote:

Allgunsblazin wrote:

nut flush gooner wrote:

Allgunsblazin wrote:I sleep well at night whilst Maggie May sorts the Brussels Sprouts out!
In the 70's EEC the exchange rate was worse than it is now but our exporters must be kerchinging all the way to the bank!

To compare UK in 2016 with the 70s is a joke. You might as well go back to the Industrial Revolution.

Our country and Economy has progressed so much since the 70s, but your currency theory is fundamentally floored. The weak currency means WE pay more than people for goods in this country because the companies that make these things have higher raw material costs, that's why all of the price rises mooted over the last few weeks have gained such publicity. Yes some of them won't get through right now, but you can be sure they are being stored up in the pipeline.


If British companies are under pressure to put their prices up, and they can't then that means they make less profit. So either salaries don't keep up with inflation or people get layed off.

Flawed as in your response!
BHS being a prime example....

What? BHS doesn't exist anymore.......

I really don't see the relevance to the debate. The former owner deserves to be stripped of his knighthood but that is a totally different matter.

You have only looked at part of the consequences of having a weak currency. If such a scenario was desirable, then every country would devalue their currency, but they don't.

It's hard not to come across as condescending, when people just time and time again prove they know nothing about the true issues of Brexit.

You can be as much condescending as you want, you formed part of the 48% that lost, lick yer wounds and take your medicine and stop bellyaching, get a backbone....

Allgunsblazin wrote:

nut flush gooner wrote:

Allgunsblazin wrote:

nut flush gooner wrote:

Allgunsblazin wrote:I sleep well at night whilst Maggie May sorts the Brussels Sprouts out!
In the 70's EEC the exchange rate was worse than it is now but our exporters must be kerchinging all the way to the bank!

To compare UK in 2016 with the 70s is a joke. You might as well go back to the Industrial Revolution.

Our country and Economy has progressed so much since the 70s, but your currency theory is fundamentally floored. The weak currency means WE pay more than people for goods in this country because the companies that make these things have higher raw material costs, that's why all of the price rises mooted over the last few weeks have gained such publicity. Yes some of them won't get through right now, but you can be sure they are being stored up in the pipeline.


If British companies are under pressure to put their prices up, and they can't then that means they make less profit. So either salaries don't keep up with inflation or people get layed off.

Flawed as in your response!
BHS being a prime example....

What? BHS doesn't exist anymore.......

I really don't see the relevance to the debate. The former owner deserves to be stripped of his knighthood but that is a totally different matter.

You have only looked at part of the consequences of having a weak currency. If such a scenario was desirable, then every country would devalue their currency, but they don't.

It's hard not to come across as condescending, when people just time and time again prove they know nothing about the true issues of Brexit.

You can be as much condescending as you want, you formed part of the 48% that lost, lick yer wounds and take your medicine and stop bellyaching, get a backbone....

Clearly it bothers you because all you can do is come out with the same retort "you lost". Nothing like having a grown up debate ehhh. And how pathetic that when I make comments that where not ageist it was interpreted that way. Whereas when anything that has been said that is either borderline racist or blatant has only been pulled up once. Double standards me thinks.

You would do well watching that video excerpt of the James O'Brien call with a Brexiteer, because like it or not that is exactly how millions of Brexiteers think and that is replicated all over this thread.

By the way as usual you haven't answered my question, the relevance of BHS?

If you want to pick up people for not answering questions, several weeks ago you quoted some obscure politician who claimed the Brexit vote was due to xenophobia and I asked you directly if you believed that 17.4 million of your fellow citizens were xenophobic or if you thought that maybe they were just concerned with the quantity of immigration and it's consequences. Answer came there none. More recently I asked generally if anyone knew why Switzerland had withdrawn their application to join the EU. No response from anyone.

Red Snapper wrote:If you want to pick up people for not answering questions, several weeks ago you quoted some obscure politician who claimed the Brexit vote was due to xenophobia and I asked you directly if you believed that 17.4 million of your fellow citizens were xenophobic or if you thought that maybe they were just concerned with the quantity of immigration and it's consequences. Answer came there none. More recently I asked generally if anyone knew why Switzerland had withdrawn their application to join the EU. No response from anyone.

I will answer you now before I leave for THOF, as quite frankly two months ago I picked up a nasty condition called Bells Pallsy, so you will have to excuse my lack of a response.

I absolutely don't think that 17m people are xenophobic or racist. Do I think perhaps 1m or 2 m have borderline racist views, absolutely. Out of that you probably have a hardcore of less than 100k that are out and out racists.

Who was the obsure politician BTW my memory fails me, I cannot see why I would quote such a name. If you follow most of my posts they are predominantly on the economic impact rather than other issues(which I think far outweighs immigration). Of course you cannot deny xenophobia does exist on the Brexit side, there is no doubt about that.

Blimey, sorry to hear that ; it's nasty. Trust you are recovered now. I agree that a proportion of people who voted Brexit will certainly be BNP members etc. but your original post gave the impression you agreed that it was everyone. Pleased to clear that up.

Glad to hear your feeling better Nut Flush no hard feelings but we will never agree on Brexit but if we ever run into one another in the boozer at the Arsenal I will always buy you a beer .

For NutFlush.....
sympathy for your recent illness. But this does not excuse you from your quite pratish behaviour in this thread.
You will never win an argument or change an opinion by talking down to people.
Rather than imply that people who disagree with you are stupid, you should provide concrete facts to back up your argument. If there are any.

To Redsnapper and Hertsgunner thanks for your kind wishes, but I wish I hadn't mentioned it now. I certainly don't expect sympathy from people I don't know. A lot of my mates don't even know what happened because fortunately if anyone knows what Bells Pallsy is the facial nerve that died seems to have grown back and, therefore, I can smile normally and the movement in the affected side of my face has returned. I am 90% recovered but still get headaches and problems with my eyes. I only missed one game at the Emirates.

Looking at other sufferers it takes months to get where I am so I am very fortunate. I am planning on setting up a website next year that helps people with personal finance and getting a second income. The plan is to donate a proportion of any profits to a U.K. Bells Pallsy charity.

Oldgitgooner, you are perfectly entitled to your opinion but Brexit Is a big deal to me. We as a country have made a massive mistake. I think things have been heated on all sides, it's a very devisive emotional subject. That won't stop me debating hard though, today there are hints from a number of banks they will leave the city next year, that is disastrous for our economy if it happens. They may be greedy bankers but they pay so much tax it will put more strain on our public services if the likes of Goldman Sachs relocates.

Here's one bank which will be expanding its U.K. operations.....

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-handel ... KKCN12J0HA

This is a fact. Not a presumption.

Do you have one single fact to back up your doom laden pro EU argument?

olgitgooner wrote:Here's one bank which will be expanding its U.K. operations.....

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-handel ... KKCN12J0HA

This is a fact. Not a presumption.

Do you have one single fact to back up your doom laden pro EU argument?

You see it's exactly this sort of thing that I come back with a strong response and get accused of being arrogant/patronising.

I am not talking about retail banking I am talking about investment banking for both corporations and wealthy individuals that takes place in the city. It's always good to see a retail bank create jobs in local areas but it cannot replace the tax take of the likes of Goldman Sachs or Citibank, two of the largest banks in the world. You asked for a bank that has decided to leave the city, well its already started VTB a Russian Bank has said it will pull out of the city.

The American banks two of whom I have mentioned are seriously considering their UK presence, in the light of the hard brexit that has been intimated by TM. It's all over sky news today.