THE WENGER THREAD

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http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/arsene- ... 57680.html
Judging by that article Wenger would be best suited by a club with a good youth academy, maybe Ajax.
That is why the big clubs now won't touch him.
A quote from Clueless in above article.
"For me, pleasure comes from watching those players showing the football I like to see played."
Thats all well and good, pretty football rather than trophies, when you are being paid £8m per year.
Not when you are paying on average £70 per game to watch it.
That is why he will never change, he worries too much about the style, us supporters are looking for more substance.

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foxinthebox2001 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/arsene- ... 57680.html
Judging by that article Wenger would be best suited by a club with a good youth academy, maybe Ajax.
That is why the big clubs now won't touch him.
A quote from Clueless in above article.
"For me, pleasure comes from watching those players showing the football I like to see played."
Thats all well and good, pretty football rather than trophies, when you are being paid £8m per year.
Not when you are paying on average £70 per game to watch it.
That is why he will never change, he worries too much about the style, us supporters are looking for more substance.
Yes, and this is why flash is delusional about Wenger's perceived standing in the game. Imagine Wenger being at R. Madrid, and turning down the chance to sign someone for big money. Within a couple of weeks, the board would be frustrated with him, and he would be out on his ear by the end of one season. The reality is that top clubs do not allow a settling in period. Look at Guardiola at Bayern, they won the league last season, but there was doubts over his future after the humiliation against Madrid. The standard expected would be far too high for what is now a mediocre manager.

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BFG4 wrote:
foxinthebox2001 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/arsene- ... 57680.html
Judging by that article Wenger would be best suited by a club with a good youth academy, maybe Ajax.
That is why the big clubs now won't touch him.
A quote from Clueless in above article.
"For me, pleasure comes from watching those players showing the football I like to see played."
Thats all well and good, pretty football rather than trophies, when you are being paid £8m per year.
Not when you are paying on average £70 per game to watch it.
That is why he will never change, he worries too much about the style, us supporters are looking for more substance.
Yes, and this is why flash is delusional about Wenger's perceived standing in the game. Imagine Wenger being at R. Madrid, and turning down the chance to sign someone for big money. Within a couple of weeks, the board would be frustrated with him, and he would be out on his ear by the end of one season. The reality is that top clubs do not allow a settling in period. Look at Guardiola at Bayern, they won the league last season, but there was doubts over his future after the humiliation against Madrid. The standard expected would be far too high for what is now a mediocre manager.
I have to agree, but the question is that would wenker perform much better if the board actually required much more from him? Has he gone stale because of he isn't challenged by the board or anyone else much harder?

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Glad to see my initial point is understood by many. My point is simple and I'll repeat it: Wenger as a manager, is one of the highest paid in the world. His return on trophies comparatively over that same period is no better than Bobby Martinez, this is a fact. Arsenal have a wage bill of over £150m, it's bigger than Chelski! :shock:
In return for that, Arsenal fans continue to trot out the myth that it is unreludtof to compete with Man United, Chelski and Citeh.
Wenger's record in big matches - which is how ALL big clubs judge managers (do Real board and fans give a shit about thrashing Almeria and Getafe at home?) is abominable. He's not won a single game against Jose despite having 11 occasions to do so - Pulis and Pardew have superior records v Jose, whilst Bobby Martinez has a far superior record v Citeh/ManYoo.
Wenger detests the transfer market and has never worked under a Director of Football. A dinosaur.
At a big club you're forced to sign and manage huge egos. Even when his team are desperate, Wenger prefers to start a season with just 6 defenders, despite having over £100m in the bank.
He also once said he would "take 2nd place for the next 20 years" and thinks CL qualification is an achievement in itself.
This ignores 17 years in the competition without ever winning it :roll:

These facts are overwhelming and mean that no big club, who exist to Win trophies, like Barca, Real, Bayern or even PSG would go anywhere near him. He has stacks of cash and continues to come up short. Managers like Klopp, Mourinho, Bielsa, Emery, Conte, even Martinez; have proven they can do a lot more with far far less resources. They've also showed a superior winning mentality and let's not even get into tactics.

Personally, I think it's borderline lunacy to think that any big European club would go anywhere near him. He's a laughing stock and his nickname is Nearly Man almost everywhere!

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Ikechukwu1 wrote:Glad to see my initial point is understood by many. My point is simple and I'll repeat it: Wenger as a manager, is one of the highest paid in the world. His return on trophies comparatively over that same period is no better than Bobby Martinez, this is a fact. Arsenal have a wage bill of over £150m, it's bigger than Chelski! :shock:
In return for that, Arsenal fans continue to trot out the myth that it is unreludtof to compete with Man United, Chelski and Citeh.
Wenger's record in big matches - which is how ALL big clubs judge managers (do Real board and fans give a shit about thrashing Almeria and Getafe at home?) is abominable. He's not won a single game against Jose despite having 11 occasions to do so - Pulis and Pardew have superior records v Jose, whilst Bobby Martinez has a far superior record v Citeh/ManYoo.
Wenger detests the transfer market and has never worked under a Director of Football. A dinosaur.
At a big club you're forced to sign and manage huge egos. Even when his team are desperate, Wenger prefers to start a season with just 6 defenders, despite having over £100m in the bank.
He also once said he would "take 2nd place for the next 20 years" and thinks CL qualification is an achievement in itself.
This ignores 17 years in the competition without ever winning it :roll:

These facts are overwhelming and mean that no big club, who exist to Win trophies, like Barca, Real, Bayern or even PSG would go anywhere near him. He has stacks of cash and continues to come up short. Managers like Klopp, Mourinho, Bielsa, Emery, Conte, even Martinez; have proven they can do a lot more with far far less resources. They've also showed a superior winning mentality and let's not even get into tactics.

Personally, I think it's borderline lunacy to think that any big European club would go anywhere near him. He's a laughing stock and his nickname is Nearly Man almost everywhere!
I'd like to apologise for calling you Babatunde you're obviously not him . . . . Youre quite clearly mad USMarty i can honestly say I've never read anyone so obsessed with one thing as you and your alter ego mad Marty are with Wenger and the board and your craving for attention of being correct is worrying :? :D

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You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D

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SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
Maybe we could have a Christmas truce for red member :? :lol:

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flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
Maybe we could have a Christmas truce for red member :? :lol:
That would put the Sainsbury's 1914 advert to shame :D

My name is Flash
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SteveO 35 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
Maybe we could have a Christmas truce for red member :? :lol:
That would put the Sainsbury's 1914 advert to shame :D

My name is Flash
Mein Name ist Rot Member
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You've got me all emotional now

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flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
Maybe we could have a Christmas truce for red member :? :lol:
That would put the Sainsbury's 1914 advert to shame :D

My name is Flash
Mein Name ist Rot Member
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You've got me all emotional now
At the end of the advert you open your chocolate wrapper and find a little picture card with Manuel Almunia on it :D

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SteveO 35 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
Maybe we could have a Christmas truce for red member :? :lol:
That would put the Sainsbury's 1914 advert to shame :D

My name is Flash
Mein Name ist Rot Member
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You've got me all emotional now
At the end of the advert you open your chocolate wrapper and find a little picture card with Manuel Almunia on it :D
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Once a wum always a wum :D

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flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
Maybe we could have a Christmas truce for red member :? :lol:
red member = afc forever. its obvious.

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SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
We could do wht they did 100yrs ago in WW1 and have a truce,invite red member,US Marty and of course baba is already back on here.What fun we could have :lol: :barscarf:

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SteveO 35 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
Maybe we could have a Christmas truce for red member :? :lol:
That would put the Sainsbury's 1914 advert to shame :D

My name is Flash
Mein Name ist Rot Member
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You've got me all emotional now
At the end of the advert you open your chocolate wrapper and find a little picture card with Manuel Almunia on it :D
I'd rather he kept his "chocolate wrapper" closed!! :shock:

You Germans and your kinky shit. Literally!! :lol: :wink:

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mcdowell42 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:You see - its all got far too heavy now. Something that can be traced back directly to the banning of Red Member :D
We could do wht they did 100yrs ago in WW1 and have a truce,invite red member,US Marty and of course baba is already back on here.What fun we could have :lol: :barscarf:
:D

Marty has conclusive proof that WW1 was started by the Arsenal board

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