The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[Brightonnxtround]

this is getting incredibly boring now

[A11M11]

Some have benefitted , some haven't . and despite all the commentators and their assertions about immigrants . The working people voted the way they did because of their dissatisfaction with their lot for many and varied reasons. Regarding the bankers , Fred Goodwin' s arrogance took him into trouble in the Amro buy out , got into bed with the wrong partners and got shafted. Don't know where he is now , don't really care but I wonder if he is still sacking people for buying the wrong biscuits and getting his flowers flown in from Paris to keep his office smelling sweet.

[Chippy]

Stop fretting people! Chippy told us brexit won't be happening anyway so there's nothing to worry about

As every day of this clusterfuck continues I am very sure this is the case. It is quite clear now that a majority want to remain, but somehow that is not democratic. However we will be so punished before we can return to the fold we will wish never started this stupid stunt.

[flash gunner]

Will carry on reply when I can get to a desktop PC.

oh gawd

[DB10GOONER]

this is getting incredibly boring now

Getting boring? GETTING???!!!

[DB10GOONER]

Will carry on reply when I can get to a desktop PC.

oh gawd

[Gunner Rob]

Stop fretting people! Chippy told us brexit won't be happening anyway so there's nothing to worry about

As every day of this clusterfuck continues I am very sure this is the case. It is quite clear now that a majority want to remain, but somehow that is not democratic. However we will be so punished before we can return to the fold we will wish never started this stupid stunt.

i'm a remainer but I question whether that is true even now.
the leavers will only start to change their minds once the prices start going up, and that will be after Article 50 has been triggered.

I must say that the negotiations between the government and the EU in 2017 could be hilarious though.
Theresa May is basically in a lose lose situation. Her only real hope might be to call a General Election early next year to get herself a bigger majority.

[DB10GOONER]

Stop fretting people! Chippy told us brexit won't be happening anyway so there's nothing to worry about

As every day of this clusterfuck continues I am very sure this is the case. It is quite clear now that a majority want to remain, but somehow that is not democratic. However we will be so punished before we can return to the fold we will wish never started this stupid stunt.

i'm a remainer but I question whether that is true even now.
the leavers will only start to change their minds once the prices start going up, and that will be after Article 50 has been triggered.

I must say that the negotiations between the government and the EU in 2017 could be hilarious though.
Theresa May is basically in a lose lose situation. Her only real hope might be to call a General Election early next year to get herself a bigger majority.

If she has any sense she will call a general election and act the Trump to get herself out of that job!

[Allgunsblazin]

The problem seems to be that the misguided people at the top and in the media are basing the outcome of Brexit on peoples feelings about the economy, unfortunately as with the whole campaign when it was fought they are missing the simple point that a large number of people who voted leave are less concerned about it because it will impact them less.

When you are at the bottom, poor and have limited prospects things really can't get a great deal worse...... on the other hand if you are rich and things go bad they can go spectacularly bad

The complete and utter misunderstanding of the feelings of a large proportion of the people of this country has led us exactly to where we are now and as can be seen from comments on this thread people are still not learning

Nailed it in one GoonerMuzz, on the subject of Bankers, the Pariahs whom we trusted with our lives and who got us into this whole mess by playing casino banking and broke our economy along with small and medium sized businesses and one man bands going to the wall, saved by the likes of you and I (taxpayers), propped up by the State, I would call them ungrateful parasites and would personally show them the door along with those who support them.


Honestly the bankers whinge at anything, suppose they would like another juicy hand out to keep them here, and don't you just love those British banks that farmed call centres out to India, where was the thought for British workers there?

I think in two paragraphs you displayed your understanding or lack of it in the banking system. It was investment banking that caused the financial crisis in 2007-09. Pre 2007 the square mile's tax take was enough to pay for the education budget for the whole of the UK, but funnily enough while the money was coming in no one battered an eyelid. What I would like to know is what you're interpretation of "casino" banking is and why it caused the financial crisis. It's easy to come out with cliched comments, but unless you knew what really happened in my opinion all you are saying on a forum like this are hollow words.

If you look at retail banking, yes there was a phase of jobs going out to India but a hell of a lot of them have come back to the UK simply because wages in India have gone through the roof, so there isn't anywhere near the financial benefit for banks to outsource in the same way as 10 years, ago.

With regards to Brexit again I re-iterate if the bankers leave London, we do not win as a individuals, families or most importantly as a country.

Your arrogance is somewhat Merkelesque!
You can dress it up as much as you like, but they all come under the same flag.
British taxpayers bailed them out! what do you not understand about that.

October 2001 was the start of the Enron Corporation Scandal, which not only affected the US but involved the UK banking sector remember the Natwest three? under the flag of RBS, remember the guy that slit his wrists in the park?
From that day the banking sector lost its credibility and the knock on effects would have serious repercussions going forward, and banking has not fully recovered since that date.
So yes mon cherie, I understand more than what you think and I know a rogue at ten paces when I see one....

So I make you six years out from your start date of 2007....

This is quality !

I remember Enron very well, working for an Accountancy firm at the time, and constantly winding up my auditing colleagues. It has NOTHING to do with the banks lmao, it was an accounting misrepresentation that brought down it's auditors too, Arthur Anderson who pocketed millions of dollars in fees but "cooked the books".

The banking crisis wasn't caused by Natwest, RBS or people slitting their wrists in Parks. It originated in the US in the form of mortgage backed securities that where not watertight. What is a mortgage backed security? To put it simply it is a debt that is repackaged and sold onto another lender. Because of this banks became very lax in their lending, giving money to people and businesses that had never been properly assessed to see if they could repay their loans. Of course the pack of cards came down, when the people started defaulting on loans/mortgages in the US. The banks balance sheets could not cope, and Lehman Brothers went bust. This was the catalyst for a Global crisis which impacted our banks as well.

When you have the bare faced cheek to call someone "Merkelesque" and arrogant, you really need to look a bit closer to home because the last two posts show how much you really know and understand about the issues surrounding Brexit.

BTW there is nothing arrogant about Merkel, not sure where you get all this from. She is no different to TM.

Ditto that, you probably made my coffee back then, you still didn't get the hang of paper clip counting!...
Ahh your Angla vs my Theresa (once a remoaner now on the dark side lol) avin a mud wrestle...

[GranadaJoe]

Stop fretting people! Chippy told us brexit won't be happening anyway so there's nothing to worry about

As every day of this clusterfuck continues I am very sure this is the case. It is quite clear now that a majority want to remain, but somehow that is not democratic. However we will be so punished before we can return to the fold we will wish never started this stupid stunt.

i'm a remainer but I question whether that is true even now.
the leavers will only start to change their minds once the prices start going up, and that will be after Article 50 has been triggered.

I must say that the negotiations between the government and the EU in 2017 could be hilarious though.
Theresa May is basically in a lose lose situation. Her only real hope might be to call a General Election early next year to get herself a bigger majority.

A poll, conudcted for Newsnight (I think) this week gives Remain 46%, Leave 47% and the remainder don't knows etc.

[GranadaJoe]

I fucking hate the patronising attitude of some Remainers, who seem to think we were too stupid or racist to understand how we should vote.

The latest in a long line of tosspot celebrities is Graham (insert expletive) Norton, who tells us that we couldn't see through the lies that we were being told and that now we regret it.
He, and many others, seem to think that we heard the lies (like there were none on the Remain side !!), believed them and therefore voted out, not for a second considering that we may have recognised the bullshit being spread and instead made a decision based on reason and values.

Still Graham, I now know who to turn to when I need political or economic advice.

[Gunner Rob]

I fucking hate the patronising attitude of some Remainers, who seem to think we were too stupid or racist to understand how we should vote.

The latest in a long line of tosspot celebrities is Graham (insert expletive) Norton, who tells us that we couldn't see through the lies that we were being told and that now we regret it.
He, and many others, seem to think that we heard the lies (like there were none on the Remain side !!), believed them and therefore voted out, not for a second considering that we may have recognised the bullshit being spread and instead made a decision based on reason and values.

Still Graham, I now know who to turn to when I need political or economic advice.

fair enough.
what do you think will be the biggest benefit to the country once brexit happens?

[DB10GOONER]

I fucking hate the patronising attitude of some Remainers, who seem to think we were too stupid or racist to understand how we should vote.

The latest in a long line of tosspot celebrities is Graham (insert expletive) Norton, who tells us that we couldn't see through the lies that we were being told and that now we regret it.
He, and many others, seem to think that we heard the lies (like there were none on the Remain side !!), believed them and therefore voted out, not for a second considering that we may have recognised the bullshit being spread and instead made a decision based on reason and values.

Still Graham, I now know who to turn to when I need political or economic advice.

I'd just like to add you were too stupid or racist to understand how you should vote.

#grahamknows

[DB10GOONER]

I fucking hate the patronising attitude of some Remainers, who seem to think we were too stupid or racist to understand how we should vote.

The latest in a long line of tosspot celebrities is Graham (insert expletive) Norton, who tells us that we couldn't see through the lies that we were being told and that now we regret it.
He, and many others, seem to think that we heard the lies (like there were none on the Remain side !!), believed them and therefore voted out, not for a second considering that we may have recognised the bullshit being spread and instead made a decision based on reason and values.

Still Graham, I now know who to turn to when I need political or economic advice.

fair enough.
what do you think will be the biggest benefit to the country once brexit happens?

You can kick Graham Norton out?

[nut flush gooner]

Nailed it in one GoonerMuzz, on the subject of Bankers, the Pariahs whom we trusted with our lives and who got us into this whole mess by playing casino banking and broke our economy along with small and medium sized businesses and one man bands going to the wall, saved by the likes of you and I (taxpayers), propped up by the State, I would call them ungrateful parasites and would personally show them the door along with those who support them.


Honestly the bankers whinge at anything, suppose they would like another juicy hand out to keep them here, and don't you just love those British banks that farmed call centres out to India, where was the thought for British workers there?

I think in two paragraphs you displayed your understanding or lack of it in the banking system. It was investment banking that caused the financial crisis in 2007-09. Pre 2007 the square mile's tax take was enough to pay for the education budget for the whole of the UK, but funnily enough while the money was coming in no one battered an eyelid. What I would like to know is what you're interpretation of "casino" banking is and why it caused the financial crisis. It's easy to come out with cliched comments, but unless you knew what really happened in my opinion all you are saying on a forum like this are hollow words.

If you look at retail banking, yes there was a phase of jobs going out to India but a hell of a lot of them have come back to the UK simply because wages in India have gone through the roof, so there isn't anywhere near the financial benefit for banks to outsource in the same way as 10 years, ago.

With regards to Brexit again I re-iterate if the bankers leave London, we do not win as a individuals, families or most importantly as a country.

Your arrogance is somewhat Merkelesque!
You can dress it up as much as you like, but they all come under the same flag.
British taxpayers bailed them out! what do you not understand about that.

October 2001 was the start of the Enron Corporation Scandal, which not only affected the US but involved the UK banking sector remember the Natwest three? under the flag of RBS, remember the guy that slit his wrists in the park?
From that day the banking sector lost its credibility and the knock on effects would have serious repercussions going forward, and banking has not fully recovered since that date.
So yes mon cherie, I understand more than what you think and I know a rogue at ten paces when I see one....

So I make you six years out from your start date of 2007....

This is quality !

I remember Enron very well, working for an Accountancy firm at the time, and constantly winding up my auditing colleagues. It has NOTHING to do with the banks lmao, it was an accounting misrepresentation that brought down it's auditors too, Arthur Anderson who pocketed millions of dollars in fees but "cooked the books".

The banking crisis wasn't caused by Natwest, RBS or people slitting their wrists in Parks. It originated in the US in the form of mortgage backed securities that where not watertight. What is a mortgage backed security? To put it simply it is a debt that is repackaged and sold onto another lender. Because of this banks became very lax in their lending, giving money to people and businesses that had never been properly assessed to see if they could repay their loans. Of course the pack of cards came down, when the people started defaulting on loans/mortgages in the US. The banks balance sheets could not cope, and Lehman Brothers went bust. This was the catalyst for a Global crisis which impacted our banks as well.

When you have the bare faced cheek to call someone "Merkelesque" and arrogant, you really need to look a bit closer to home because the last two posts show how much you really know and understand about the issues surrounding Brexit.

BTW there is nothing arrogant about Merkel, not sure where you get all this from. She is no different to TM.

Ditto that, you probably made my coffee back then, you still didn't get the hang of paper clip counting!...
Ahh your Angla vs my Theresa (once a remoaner now on the dark side lol) avin a mud wrestle...

Making your coffee, no I didn't report to anyone in the post room

My time was better spent offering consultancy services to their international client bank. If you genuinely worked in an accountancy firm I pity you for being a brexiteer, because you should have all the facts you need to make an informed decision. Even more so, being an accountant (which I am not) you should understand the Enron scandal better than most. The same goes for the Financial crisis. Yet on both counts you have shown you don't.