MESSAGE TO DAVID DEIN

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Augie;

If DD believes SS Kroenke is the solution to our financial situation then DD is wrong. Very wrong.

SS is motivated by one thing and one thing only; financial gain - he will not make any sacrifices for the benefit of the club the way a board member will that has genuine love for the club. SS will try to "sweat the asset" from day one. ie; he will try to recoup as much of his investment + profit as quick as possible. Much like the Glazers have tried (and happily failed) to do at ManUre. Effectively WE (the fans) would be buying the club for him through paying back loans he would use to buy the shares needed. We would pay those loans off by spending our money on merchandising and match tickets etc. All so he can take money out of the club.

That will be his number one priority. He will not give us some mythical cure-all huge cash investment to buy players like The Criminal-o-vitch at chav$ki did. He was laundering money (to all intents and purposes) by buying them.

As for a cash injection from an outside source and trusting DD to introduce it, I think that is a little naive if you'll forgive me. Where exactly would this windfall come from? Obviously, DD wanted it from SS, but that would be a disaster for the reasons given above. The fact that DD put his faith (and his future) in the hands of SS disqualifies DD's judgement on this issue for me.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you as far as DD's dedication to the Arsenal cause; I think DD did great things to bring the club forward and I'll always respect him for that. But he is wrong in this instance; SS would not be good business for Arsenal FC.

As far as fans "coming out with crap" is conserned, this site is about opinion. Other peoples opinions, not just yours. You mightn't agree with everything written but at least respect other peoples views. And be POLITE about it.

We are all Gooners at the end of the day.

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DB 10 Gooner the fact is if there is not a huge investment of funds our hands are going to be tied against the likes of Manure,Chelski and Liverpool.If all our ambitions are to finish 4th lets carry on with the same board.DD could see what was happening.As long as the Emirates is full the present board will be happy but what about filling the trophy cabinet at the new ground. This year Henry may go, next year it could be Wenger and Fabregas.

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Post by MK Gould »

I'm not completely convinced that the current Board are best for the club.

But I am now WHOLLY convinced that they are a damn sight better for the club than having SS (thanks DB10) in control.

You can question whether they are dyed in the wool gooners - but I don't doubt that their hearts are in the right place. If they'd have been in it for the money then why didn't they sell their shares when they had the chance rather than let Hill-Wood badger them into agreeing to keep them for a year?

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As I have said before folks, I fecking hate, hate and hate again Manure, but they did win the Prem last season and left us well behind in doing so. They have spent on new blood for the new season and we have bought in a young Keeper. :?

Now I am not a betting man but if I was who would my money be on :?:

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Green Gooner - before you get too envious of ManUre I would suggest you read the recent article on this site about their financial position!!! Scary stuff, and will put you off SS for good.....

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green gooner wrote:As I have said before folks, I fecking hate, hate and hate again Manure, but they did win the Prem last season and left us well behind in doing so. They have spent on new blood for the new season and we have bought in a young Keeper. :?

Now I am not a betting man but if I was who would my money be on :?:
Agreed, they won it. But I've said it before; they won it because the rest were sooooo bad. NOT because the Glazers bought them and gave them millions to buy the best players in the world. The Glazers plunged them into huge debt.

Did you know that before ManUre do ANY business they have to raise £62 million every year to pay off JUST THE INTEREST on the loans that the Glazers took out to buy the club? ManUre is not the cash cow that the Glazers thought they were buying, and rumour in The City is strong that they are now trying to sell ManUre.

SS has already indicated he would follow the Glazers example if he was to take over Arsenal. Would anyone really like to see us saddled with that long term debt with absolutely NO guarantee that there would be extra money in the transfer kitty?

Not me.

I do agree with all previous posts that we need to strengthen the squad big time. But NOT by placing the club in huge debt.

If we look at what has actually happened and forget the maybe's for a moment then the current board is still the most successful board in our history. We have had unprecedented success winning trophy after trophy over the last ten years. We have increased our fanbase and our marketing identity. We own one of the best, most modern stadiums in Europe (the world?) and we are not in danger of becoming the next Leeds United.

I call that a board that knows what they are doing. We should trust them until they prove us wrong, not rush to panic-judge them because we've had two iffy seasons with a young talented squad full of potential that only needs the addition of maybe two or three experienced, world class players.

If the board don't release funds for Arsene to buy those needed players THEN we are entitled to ask what the hell is going on.

Just my opinion, NOT a pop at my country man the Greengooner!! :wink:

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:cry: I apologise if I offended anyone in my earlier posting but like thousands of fans I am well p*ssed off with the state of play at our beloved club. As I said before I am unsure whether I support a takeover or not and my allegiance here is not to silent stan(who i dont give a toss about) but to David Dein. We clearly need a major injection of money and this board seems incapable of providing it so the only option is to introduce outside investment or fall further behind the other top sides and that is a fact. There is a growing resentment amongst the fans at our current board, a feeling I share, as they continue to spout crap everytime they speak. When the stadium was built we were told that we would be able to compete for the best players and that the stadium would not affect our transfer budget at all and we can all see that is rubbish. What I see is a squad that is not only reducing in terms of quality each summer but also in terms of size. Are we to believe that the board/manager believe that we do not need reinforcements to our playing staff ? If so that is a major concern to me anyway. I accept that most fans are scared of a glazier style takeover and are therefore against the whole idea of a takeover and I totally understand that view however I would like to know what position the fans would take if Wenger came out in support of the Dein & kroenke partnership. Would the fans then switch sides or would they be prepared to lose wenger over this ? Arsene Wenger is a very shrewd man and would never come out and back his good buddy DD publicly but sometimes actions speak louder than words and when he says au revoir next summer we will all know why he left. I read fans rubbishing PV4 & Henry for their comments about DD's sacking but are we saying that they and all our former players (TA,the merse, dixon, winterburn etc)that have come out in support of DD are wrong ? As I said before I remember what this club was like before DD came along and I acknowledge the huge huge part he played in making the club what it is today while the rest of the board were carried along for the ride. Everytime phw has opened his mouth in recent years he has caused major embarrassment to the fans (his comments about PV4, henry's recent contract & we dont want his sort when referring to kroenke) and he has showed himself to be just an old buffoon. The board talk about tradition but surely the traditions have been eroded away over recent years with the introduction of blue away jerseys, white away jerseys and leaving our home that was highbury. These decisions were about money and how to maximise it which I can accept if they dont play the hypocrites by spouting on about their traditions. PHW's position on this board is as a result of a family tradition and is a minor shareholder in the boardroom, danny fitzman was introduced by DD to bring in much needed capital to the club and lady nina smith inherited her shares so tell me where or who in that boardroom is going to build on the successes of recent years ? Who is going to have the drive,vision and ambition to take Arsenal up to the next level ? The fact is there is no-one left now to fill DD's boots and I believe that the fans should get together to protest for his return otherwise we can start preparing for the biggest fall from grace this club has ever had when our manager and top players depart

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SOMEONE GET ME THE ROPE!! FAILING THAT, GET ME A CAN OF GASOLINE. :(

FUCK IT. IF WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THE PAN, I WANT TO BE THE FIRST TO LEAD THE ANTI-BOARD PROTESTS - TIBETAN MONK STYLE!!
I GUESS IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO IT THAT WAY, AND OUTSIDE ASHBURTON GROVE. PREFERABLE WHEN A GAME IS TAKING PLACE - THAT WAY, I WOULDN'T NEED A MATCH!! :wink: :lol:

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Post by rolypoly »

just read the posting about dein on the home page.

re-assuring to learn i am not in a minority one one who thinks dein is not the messiah

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Post by gus ceasar is a legend »

First rule of business..........never show all your cards!

Ive said this before and will again.....

If any of you imagine that Mr Dein and Mr Kronke are not in cahoots then think again!

What Dein knows is invaluable to Kronke and Kronke knows that Dein can be a figurehead in a takeover we may all trust!

C'mon ask yourself.........what club has actually been taken over before by a board member who you believe wants to do the best for the club?

Thats the difference!

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