MESSAGE TO DAVID DEIN
- DB10GOONER
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Augie;
If DD believes SS Kroenke is the solution to our financial situation then DD is wrong. Very wrong.
SS is motivated by one thing and one thing only; financial gain - he will not make any sacrifices for the benefit of the club the way a board member will that has genuine love for the club. SS will try to "sweat the asset" from day one. ie; he will try to recoup as much of his investment + profit as quick as possible. Much like the Glazers have tried (and happily failed) to do at ManUre. Effectively WE (the fans) would be buying the club for him through paying back loans he would use to buy the shares needed. We would pay those loans off by spending our money on merchandising and match tickets etc. All so he can take money out of the club.
That will be his number one priority. He will not give us some mythical cure-all huge cash investment to buy players like The Criminal-o-vitch at chav$ki did. He was laundering money (to all intents and purposes) by buying them.
As for a cash injection from an outside source and trusting DD to introduce it, I think that is a little naive if you'll forgive me. Where exactly would this windfall come from? Obviously, DD wanted it from SS, but that would be a disaster for the reasons given above. The fact that DD put his faith (and his future) in the hands of SS disqualifies DD's judgement on this issue for me.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you as far as DD's dedication to the Arsenal cause; I think DD did great things to bring the club forward and I'll always respect him for that. But he is wrong in this instance; SS would not be good business for Arsenal FC.
As far as fans "coming out with crap" is conserned, this site is about opinion. Other peoples opinions, not just yours. You mightn't agree with everything written but at least respect other peoples views. And be POLITE about it.
We are all Gooners at the end of the day.
If DD believes SS Kroenke is the solution to our financial situation then DD is wrong. Very wrong.
SS is motivated by one thing and one thing only; financial gain - he will not make any sacrifices for the benefit of the club the way a board member will that has genuine love for the club. SS will try to "sweat the asset" from day one. ie; he will try to recoup as much of his investment + profit as quick as possible. Much like the Glazers have tried (and happily failed) to do at ManUre. Effectively WE (the fans) would be buying the club for him through paying back loans he would use to buy the shares needed. We would pay those loans off by spending our money on merchandising and match tickets etc. All so he can take money out of the club.
That will be his number one priority. He will not give us some mythical cure-all huge cash investment to buy players like The Criminal-o-vitch at chav$ki did. He was laundering money (to all intents and purposes) by buying them.
As for a cash injection from an outside source and trusting DD to introduce it, I think that is a little naive if you'll forgive me. Where exactly would this windfall come from? Obviously, DD wanted it from SS, but that would be a disaster for the reasons given above. The fact that DD put his faith (and his future) in the hands of SS disqualifies DD's judgement on this issue for me.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you as far as DD's dedication to the Arsenal cause; I think DD did great things to bring the club forward and I'll always respect him for that. But he is wrong in this instance; SS would not be good business for Arsenal FC.
As far as fans "coming out with crap" is conserned, this site is about opinion. Other peoples opinions, not just yours. You mightn't agree with everything written but at least respect other peoples views. And be POLITE about it.
We are all Gooners at the end of the day.
DB 10 Gooner the fact is if there is not a huge investment of funds our hands are going to be tied against the likes of Manure,Chelski and Liverpool.If all our ambitions are to finish 4th lets carry on with the same board.DD could see what was happening.As long as the Emirates is full the present board will be happy but what about filling the trophy cabinet at the new ground. This year Henry may go, next year it could be Wenger and Fabregas.
I'm not completely convinced that the current Board are best for the club.
But I am now WHOLLY convinced that they are a damn sight better for the club than having SS (thanks DB10) in control.
You can question whether they are dyed in the wool gooners - but I don't doubt that their hearts are in the right place. If they'd have been in it for the money then why didn't they sell their shares when they had the chance rather than let Hill-Wood badger them into agreeing to keep them for a year?
But I am now WHOLLY convinced that they are a damn sight better for the club than having SS (thanks DB10) in control.
You can question whether they are dyed in the wool gooners - but I don't doubt that their hearts are in the right place. If they'd have been in it for the money then why didn't they sell their shares when they had the chance rather than let Hill-Wood badger them into agreeing to keep them for a year?
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Agreed, they won it. But I've said it before; they won it because the rest were sooooo bad. NOT because the Glazers bought them and gave them millions to buy the best players in the world. The Glazers plunged them into huge debt.green gooner wrote:As I have said before folks, I fecking hate, hate and hate again Manure, but they did win the Prem last season and left us well behind in doing so. They have spent on new blood for the new season and we have bought in a young Keeper.![]()
Now I am not a betting man but if I was who would my money be on
Did you know that before ManUre do ANY business they have to raise £62 million every year to pay off JUST THE INTEREST on the loans that the Glazers took out to buy the club? ManUre is not the cash cow that the Glazers thought they were buying, and rumour in The City is strong that they are now trying to sell ManUre.
SS has already indicated he would follow the Glazers example if he was to take over Arsenal. Would anyone really like to see us saddled with that long term debt with absolutely NO guarantee that there would be extra money in the transfer kitty?
Not me.
I do agree with all previous posts that we need to strengthen the squad big time. But NOT by placing the club in huge debt.
If we look at what has actually happened and forget the maybe's for a moment then the current board is still the most successful board in our history. We have had unprecedented success winning trophy after trophy over the last ten years. We have increased our fanbase and our marketing identity. We own one of the best, most modern stadiums in Europe (the world?) and we are not in danger of becoming the next Leeds United.
I call that a board that knows what they are doing. We should trust them until they prove us wrong, not rush to panic-judge them because we've had two iffy seasons with a young talented squad full of potential that only needs the addition of maybe two or three experienced, world class players.
If the board don't release funds for Arsene to buy those needed players THEN we are entitled to ask what the hell is going on.
Just my opinion, NOT a pop at my country man the Greengooner!!


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BURN BABY BURN - BOARDROOM INFERNO!
SOMEONE GET ME THE ROPE!! FAILING THAT, GET ME A CAN OF GASOLINE.
FUCK IT. IF WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THE PAN, I WANT TO BE THE FIRST TO LEAD THE ANTI-BOARD PROTESTS - TIBETAN MONK STYLE!!
I GUESS IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO IT THAT WAY, AND OUTSIDE ASHBURTON GROVE. PREFERABLE WHEN A GAME IS TAKING PLACE - THAT WAY, I WOULDN'T NEED A MATCH!!


FUCK IT. IF WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THE PAN, I WANT TO BE THE FIRST TO LEAD THE ANTI-BOARD PROTESTS - TIBETAN MONK STYLE!!
I GUESS IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO IT THAT WAY, AND OUTSIDE ASHBURTON GROVE. PREFERABLE WHEN A GAME IS TAKING PLACE - THAT WAY, I WOULDN'T NEED A MATCH!!


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First rule of business..........never show all your cards!
Ive said this before and will again.....
If any of you imagine that Mr Dein and Mr Kronke are not in cahoots then think again!
What Dein knows is invaluable to Kronke and Kronke knows that Dein can be a figurehead in a takeover we may all trust!
C'mon ask yourself.........what club has actually been taken over before by a board member who you believe wants to do the best for the club?
Thats the difference!

Ive said this before and will again.....
If any of you imagine that Mr Dein and Mr Kronke are not in cahoots then think again!
What Dein knows is invaluable to Kronke and Kronke knows that Dein can be a figurehead in a takeover we may all trust!
C'mon ask yourself.........what club has actually been taken over before by a board member who you believe wants to do the best for the club?
Thats the difference!
