Martin Oneil

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:28 pm

wherever martin has been he has also done well

still I would have capello or marcello lippi

but to say he cant take pressure then your wrong

this season he will fight man city for 4th

tinpot lane · Post by **tinpot lane** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:28 pm

SteveO 35 wrote:
Chunky Monkey wrote:he would turn the Arsenal Job down - he is billy small bollocks - he takes over shit clubs and turn's them into half decent sides, so he is on a win-win situation

if he took over Arsenal he wouldn't hack the pressure

What like Celtic who have won the European Cup and have a fan base bigger than our own.....

i think you've missed his point

the expectations at celtic park and at any top 4 side are huge in comparison

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:29 pm

SteveO 35 wrote:
Chunky Monkey wrote:he would turn the Arsenal Job down - he is billy small bollocks - he takes over shit clubs and turn's them into half decent sides, so he is on a win-win situation

if he took over Arsenal he wouldn't hack the pressure

What like Celtic who have won the European Cup and have a fan base bigger than our own.....

Celtic are shit - and wouldn't finish in the top 6 if they played in the PL - they won the european cup back in the black and white days - and only other competition is Rangers and they are just as shit

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:30 pm

well i wouldn't welcome the bloke to the Emirates -

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:31 pm

3-0 today was shjit man

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:32 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:well i wouldn't welcome the bloke to the Emirates -

me nither because there are better but be fair to the bloke man

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:39 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
Chunky Monkey wrote:he would turn the Arsenal Job down - he is billy small bollocks - he takes over shit clubs and turn's them into half decent sides, so he is on a win-win situation

if he took over Arsenal he wouldn't hack the pressure

What like Celtic who have won the European Cup and have a fan base bigger than our own.....
Celtic are shit - and wouldn't finish in the top 6 if they played in the PL - they won the european cup back in the black and white days - and only other competition is Rangers and they are just as shit

So if he takes Villa into the Champions League would you say that wasn't an achievement......

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:41 pm

i think hes a very good consistancly good manager

i still wouldnt want him at arsenal as i have want capello or lippi

corkbarry · Post by **corkbarry** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:52 pm

Even if we got all three of them, without spending money we will not win anything

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:57 pm

So if he takes Villa into the Champions League would you say that wasn't an achievement......[/quote

yes it is an achievement my argument is he always takes jobs where there is a win-win situation - Apart from die hard Villa fans - who else thought he would break into the top 4, so if he does he is the next Messiah, if he doesn't nobody will care

At Arsenal he will have much big pressure - we will demand to be challenging for Champions not fourth - if he is only expected to get fourth we just as well keep Wenger

skipper · Post by **skipper** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:02 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:So if he takes Villa into the Champions League would you say that wasn't an achievement......[/quote

yes it is an achievement my argument is he always takes jobs where there is a win-win situation - Apart from die hard Villa fans - who else thought he would break into the top 4, so if he does he is the next Messiah, if he doesn't nobody will care

At Arsenal he will have much big pressure - we will demand to be challenging for Champions not fourth - if he is only expected to get fourth we just as well keep Wenger

That's an interesting point. Now tell me what are we demanding of AW?

BTW I don't think O'Neill is right choice for Arsenal.

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:06 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:So if he takes Villa into the Champions League would you say that wasn't an achievement......[/quote

yes it is an achievement my argument is he always takes jobs where there is a win-win situation - Apart from die hard Villa fans - who else thought he would break into the top 4, so if he does he is the next Messiah, if he doesn't nobody will care

At Arsenal he will have much big pressure - we will demand to be challenging for Champions not fourth - if he is only expected to get fourth we just as well keep Wenger

I can see your point honest ! All I would say is that he has raised the bar at every club he has been too. I don't think he is the be all and end all of managers but he has been working his way up. Wycombe, Leicester, Celtic and Villa have all gone a level up under his management. There's nothing to say he wouldn't do the same to a bigger club.

Also at Celtic there is a huge expectation. Finish 2nd and you're a loser. I think that stands him in good stead for a challenge

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:09 pm

At Arsenal he will have much big pressure - we will demand to be challenging for Champions not fourth - if he is only expected to get fourth we just as well keep Wenger[/quote]

That's an interesting point. Now tell me what are we demanding of AW?

BTW I don't think O'Neill is right choice for Arsenal.[/quote] -

we are demanding what Wenger has achieved in previous 12 seasons making us one of the best teams in the PL and to be challenging for the PL title like last year when we fell just short - instead of building on last year - we have gone backwards like 2 to 3 years ago - not replacing Flamini was the biggest mistake Wenger has made this season

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:11 pm

I can see your point honest ! All I would say is that he has raised the bar at every club he has been too. I don't think he is the be all and end all of managers but he has been working his way up. Wycombe, Leicester, Celtic and Villa have all gone a level up under his management. There's nothing to say he wouldn't do the same to a bigger club.

Also at Celtic there is a huge expectation. Finish 2nd and you're a loser. I think that stands him in good stead for a challenge[/quote]

well i can't see it happening - Wenger has a job for life and so rightly in my opinion

skipper · Post by **skipper** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:12 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:At Arsenal he will have much big pressure - we will demand to be challenging for Champions not fourth - if he is only expected to get fourth we just as well keep Wenger

That's an interesting point. Now tell me what are we demanding of AW?

BTW I don't think O'Neill is right choice for Arsenal.[/quote] -

we are demanding what Wenger has achieved in previous 12 seasons making us one of the best teams in the PL and to be challenging for the PL title like last year when we fell just short - instead of building on last year - we have gone backwards like 2 to 3 years ago - not replacing Flamini was the biggest mistake Wenger has made this season[/quote]

I wouldf say letting Flamini go was biggest mistake...