Bid rejected for Arse Shaving

[MM99]

£12m still seems reasonable..

agreed. 10m is not realistic considering that shitter players have gone for way more than that. i would say make a maximum bid of 12/12.5m and if they reject it then fuck it, hes not worth more than that anyway. 12m isnt a bad price.

[Bergkamp-Genius]

£10m is about as high as I'd rate Arshavin. I'd rather we spent the money a bit wiser on areas of the team where we really had gaps. It may seem like we need Arshavin, but only until Fabregas returns.

Whether you or i or anyone else rates or think we need him or not is not the problem the problem is how much effort do the club actually put into signing the players they are supposedly going for and we need, i'm afraid constantly offering way below what players are worth in the hope that someone is stupid enough to accept it is not a successful way to operate in the transfer market, it may work when your buying unknowns or unprovens, but there are far too many clubs out there that when they need a player they pay what they need to pay to get who they want, us haggling like we're in some moroccan bazaar is going to get us no one of quality if anyone else is interested in that player whether it be Arshavin or any other player we need and i'm beginning to think it's a deliberate tactic to avoid spending money.

Do you think Hleb was worth more than Arshavin

[wave of mutilation]

£12m still seems reasonable..

agreed. 10m is not realistic considering that shitter players have gone for way more than that. i would say make a maximum bid of 12/12.5m and if they reject it then fuck it, hes not worth more than that anyway. 12m isnt a bad price.

My thoughts exactly

[Captain Fabregas]

i reckon we will end up paying 14/15mil

[Gunnerz4life]

My concern is whether we are putting all our eggs in one basket. Is it like Arshavin or bust? I really hope we are keeping our options open.

[digger]

Do you think Hleb was worth more than Arshavin

No, but then again, I didn't rate Hleb either - not enough end product.

The difference with Hleb was he was proven to be useful in a major league. Arshavin isn't.... all deserved respect to the Russian league. Hleb was probably on about £50k per week (an astronomical amount, I'd guess more than most people who post on here earn a year?), Arshavin would want double that if newspaper reports are accurate.

[donaldo]

£1Om for Arshavin,£5m less than the Spuds paid for Bentley.This is a piss take by Arsenal.Put a bid in which they know there is no chance of Zenith excepting and then turn around to us the fans and say we tried to sign him!!!

Arsenal have just announced their sponsors for next season The 99p Store tight-arsed fuckers

[Captain Fabregas]

£1Om for Arshavin,£5m less than the Spuds paid for Bentley.This is a piss take by Arsenal.Put a bid in which they know there is no chance of Zenith excepting and then turn around to us the fans and say we tried to sign him!!!

Arsenal have just announced their sponsors for next season The 99p Store tight-arsed fuckers

[Bergkamp-Genius]

Do you think Hleb was worth more than Arshavin

No, but then again, I didn't rate Hleb either - not enough end product.

The difference with Hleb was he was proven to be useful in a major league. Arshavin isn't.... all deserved respect to the Russian league. Hleb was probably on about £50k per week (an astronomical amount, I'd guess more than most people who post on here earn a year?), Arshavin would want double that if newspaper reports are accurate.

I don't think the wages issue is relevant yet we are not likely to get past the fee.

Berbatoss £30m + or Arshavin £15m that comparison must make it look good value.

Players in the end are only worth what the market will pay for them, the mistake we make is we choose a player we need and want and then for the sake of a couple of million extra we won't get him, as the last few months in particular have shown it's not worth the penny pinching if the team is going to suffer as a result and it has. If we keep playing this game trying to be clever with picking up players at the cheapest possible price we are going to end up with a squad full of the Sylvestres of this world.
It would be a bit more bearable if they hadn't wasted as much money as they have in recent years with letting the likes of Edu and Flamini go for nothing thats £15m + down the drain and yet they are quibbling about a couple of million extra here and there to make the team stronger.

[digger]

I don't think the wages issue is relevant yet we are not likely to get past the fee.

Berbatoss £30m + or Arshavin £15m that comparison must make it look good value.

Players in the end are only worth what the market will pay for them, the mistake we make is we choose a player we need and want and then for the sake of a couple of million extra we won't get him, as the last few months in particular have shown it's not worth the penny pinching if the team is going to suffer as a result and it has. If we keep playing this game trying to be clever with picking up players at the cheapest possible price we are going to end up with a squad full of the Sylvestres of this world.
It would be a bit more bearable if they hadn't wasted as much money as they have in recent years with letting the likes of Edu and Flamini go for nothing thats £15m + down the drain and yet they are quibbling about a couple of million extra here and there to make the team stronger.

But the club makes an overall bid... they know roughly what salaries Arshavin wants (oh, and tapping up isn't "rare"), so they know a 5 year deal at £100k per week is £25m. All of a sudden, Arshavin isn't £15m, he's £40m.

[Bergkamp-Genius]

I don't think the wages issue is relevant yet we are not likely to get past the fee.

Berbatoss £30m + or Arshavin £15m that comparison must make it look good value.

Players in the end are only worth what the market will pay for them, the mistake we make is we choose a player we need and want and then for the sake of a couple of million extra we won't get him, as the last few months in particular have shown it's not worth the penny pinching if the team is going to suffer as a result and it has. If we keep playing this game trying to be clever with picking up players at the cheapest possible price we are going to end up with a squad full of the Sylvestres of this world.
It would be a bit more bearable if they hadn't wasted as much money as they have in recent years with letting the likes of Edu and Flamini go for nothing thats £15m + down the drain and yet they are quibbling about a couple of million extra here and there to make the team stronger.

But the club makes an overall bid... they know roughly what salaries Arshavin wants (oh, and tapping up isn't "rare"), so they know a 5 year deal at £100k per week is £25m. All of a sudden, Arshavin isn't £15m, he's £40m.

Yea i noticed in the last couple of seasons AW has tried to use that as one of his multitude of excuses for not buying players, players salaries come out of the annual turnover not the transfer budget, unless players are getting there 3,4 or 5 year contracts paid up before they even start playing then there is no relevance to the total contract cost and the transfer budget, at a push i'll accept the first years salary may be budgetted in with the transfer budget but the rest is budgetted into the overall yearly expenses of the club and a decision on a salary will be made with the expenses and income in mind not the transfer budget. Money made available for transfers in our case in particular comes from our profits (not that we ever use them) those come after our expenses have been taken away from our income so either we are paying wages twice once out of our expenses and once out of our transfer budget or they are trying to mislead us, i know which theory i believe.

[Radford149]

Let them hijack all they like

18m for another attacking player, who until the past 2 years had done fuck all. And Russians do so well in the PL too don't they ?

i totally agree

[flash gunner]

It was bullshit from the very start just a smokescreen when we buy no one by the end of Jan. Wenger can say " I tried with Arshavin but they wanted too much" Im sure he knows we cant afford him from day 1

[hugh jardon]

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[donaldo]

It was bullshit from the very start just a smokescreen when we buy no one by the end of Jan. Wenger can say " I tried with Arshavin but they wanted too much" Im sure he knows we cant afford him from day 1

But we fall for it every transfer window.