Send Letters to UEFA & FIFA Regarding Barcelona FC

LeGinge (Northern Branch) · Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:42 pm

I think we should concentrate our efforts in signing Joe Cole

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:18 pm

How typically Arsenal that no doubt many Gooners who find the idea of pressuring their own Board not to sell our best playerat this point will no doubt be happy to actually write CF Barcelona's Board and demand that they leave our best player alone.

It is distasteful and even pointless to ask that our Board put the Football Club it is entrusted to run and its priorities anead of increasin gtheir own wealth, but angry letters to another club, with as many or more supporters than our club, supporters who likely do not share our views on this, actually can and will make difference. As I said how typically Arsenal.

What does it say when we think pressuring Barca's Board would work better than pressuring our own Board? What does it say that some think Barca's Board would even listen to our letters or petitions more than Arsenal's - our own club's - Board would?

jamjc64 · Post by **jamjc64** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:39 pm

USMartin wrote:How typically Arsenal that no doubt many Gooners who find the idea of pressuring their own Board not to sell our best playerat this point will no doubt be happy to actually write CF Barcelona's Board and demand that they leave our best player alone.

It is distasteful and even pointless to ask that our Board put the Football Club it is entrusted to run and its priorities anead of increasin gtheir own wealth, but angry letters to another club, with as many or more supporters than our club, supporters who likely do not share our views on this, actually can and will make difference. As I said how typically Arsenal.

What does it say when we think pressuring Barca's Board would work better than pressuring our own Board? What does it say that some think Barca's Board would even listen to our letters or petitions more than Arsenal's - our own club's - Board would?

There is no way Arsenal or any fan of our famous club can even begin to take the moral high ground on this subject.

We like the rest of the worlds clubs HAVE had our fair share of tapping up other clubs players with only our own needs at heart.

You dont need me to point out previous transfers involving players joining the Arsenal to know what i mean.

Maybe its why many people on here think the whole letters of complaint stinks of hypocrisy.

And no not very Arsenal or typically English

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:54 pm

jamjc64 wrote:
USMartin wrote:How typically Arsenal that no doubt many Gooners who find the idea of pressuring their own Board not to sell our best playerat this point will no doubt be happy to actually write CF Barcelona's Board and demand that they leave our best player alone.

It is distasteful and even pointless to ask that our Board put the Football Club it is entrusted to run and its priorities anead of increasin gtheir own wealth, but angry letters to another club, with as many or more supporters than our club, supporters who likely do not share our views on this, actually can and will make difference. As I said how typically Arsenal.

What does it say when we think pressuring Barca's Board would work better than pressuring our own Board? What does it say that some think Barca's Board would even listen to our letters or petitions more than Arsenal's - our own club's - Board would?

There is no way Arsenal or any fan of our famous club can even begin to take the moral high ground on this subject.

We like the rest of the worlds clubs HAVE had our fair share of tapping up other clubs players with only our own needs at heart.

You dont need me to point out previous transfers involving players joining the Arsenal to know what i mean.

Maybe its why many people on here think the whole letters of complaint stinks of hypocrisy.

And no not very Arsenal or typically English

I understand your point - but I wasn't referring to specifically to the actions in question - but the suggested reaction.

I tend to think and agree its deeply hypocritical to complain tapping up players , The problem with that specifically is that until FIFA or UEFA really do somehting about it - something that hurst the guilty clubs or can hurt them it will continue.

And I didn't suggest it was typically English at all - simply typically Arsenal to be unwilling to question our own Board on its actions but to question another club's Board and expect it to have results. I don't know where you got the nationalist implication you make frankly. Not every English club's supporters would think the way this campaign suggests, nor would many of every club's supporters be as indefinitely patient with their own Board at this point.

GunnerDude · Post by **GunnerDude** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:01 pm

flash gunner wrote:
GunnerDude wrote:With a year left in his contract the Chamakh deal was no different to the AA deal, so I dont see how it compares to Barca's attempts on a player who had a 4yr contract and then signed an extension.
With Chamakh's contract expiring and Wenger making it clear via the media (as well as through his agent maybe) that we were interested this is tapping up. OK Barca take it to another level but tapping up is tapping up. I would say Bordeaux fans have more to cry about as their prized asset walked away for fuck all at least we (should) get a fortune for Cesc

Am sorry I dont follow that argument, Chamakh was offered a contract during and at the end of the previous season but did not sign. If that doesn't shout "come and get me" then I dont know what does.

Also dont forget the fact we had 2 bids turned down and Arsene made no comment about trying to sign him in January because the fact is Chamakh was free to talk to anyone then.
If Bordeaux got fuckall for him then that is down to them.
Ozil is on his last year, Bremen have chosen to cash in as he doesnt want to sign. Is that any different from the Chamakh deal?. Teams will place bids, does that mean they are tapping him up?

On the other hand, Barca and Real have been using Cesc's name for one campain after the other and continued after Cesc signed an extension.

There are clear distinctions between the two cases.

paperclip · Post by **paperclip** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:37 pm

Hi US Martin,

just so you know, I was taking the piss. I'm actually amazed you took it seriously and took issue with it.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:54 pm

paperclip wrote:Hi US Martin,

just so you know, I was taking the piss. I'm actually amazed you took it seriously and took issue with it.

Fair enough - but I have seen such campaigns elsewhere discussed at least incuding in blog entries so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it were rue -especially given that on top of that i have seen recommendations here suggestion Gooners are better off trusting Parliament than its own Boarrd on the issue of preventing debt-leveraged sales.

So if you feel I jumped on you unfairly, my apologies.

As I say though there was some reason to believe this could be truie and I satnd by points about some of our supporters being willing to pressure barca's Board but not our own for what's right for Arsenal.

VERY nice avy btw paperclip

paperclip · Post by **paperclip** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:29 pm

No need to apologise mate, I wasn't offended, just surprised you didn't realise I was messing.

Glad you like the avatar. I made it myself. It's pretty much the only one on the forum that doesn't get me a bollocking from my boss when he sneaks up to see what I'm doing.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:54 pm

paperclip wrote:No need to apologise mate, I wasn't offended, just surprised you didn't realise I was messing.

Glad you like the avatar. I made it myself. It's pretty much the only one on the forum that doesn't get me a bollocking from my boss when he sneaks up to see what I'm doing.

He's a Gooner then?