In Arsene we Trust

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Magic Hat wrote:
g88ner wrote:These threads are pointless.

Not many would have predicted home defeats against West Brom & Newcastle, so you just have to accept that we're a jekyl and hyde team who doesn't always turn up... and predicting the next result, never mind the next 10, is folly.
Think our problem is that if we lose 1 game, we tend to draw or lose the next 3/4 before finding form. We never lose just one so whenever we do suffer a defeat after a good run, I know the next few games are going to be painful to watch. Lack of mental strength perhaps?
Don't let Arsene hear you say that - we have it in spades apparently together with intelligence, maturity and a collection of new signings that are all "winners".

It's only down to a little bit of "inefficiency"

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Magic Hat wrote:
g88ner wrote:These threads are pointless.

Not many would have predicted home defeats against West Brom & Newcastle, so you just have to accept that we're a jekyl and hyde team who doesn't always turn up... and predicting the next result, never mind the next 10, is folly.
Think our problem is that if we lose 1 game, we tend to draw or lose the next 3/4 before finding form. We never lose just one so whenever we do suffer a defeat after a good run, I know the next few games are going to be painful to watch. Lack of mental strength perhaps?
Lacking mental strength has been a huge issue for us in recent seasons.

I agree that one defeat often turns into a slump, but also we get complacent and cocky - the West Brom fiasco being a prime example. In fact, even Wenger admitted the players weren't focused against West Brom - probably because after thrashing Braga 6-0, the players read the papers and believed the hype.

I guess having more leaders, and more intelligent players, would help, but Wenger thinks we have 11 captains on the field.... so nothing will change.

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Trust Wenger to do what exactly?

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GoonerN5 wrote:Trust Wenger to do what exactly?
Win the title. :lol:

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lack of ability, bottle, talent, guts, effort.

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Is the optimism back yet? :barscarf:

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M-50 wrote:Is the optimism back yet? :barscarf:

In wenger ?? Did you not watch his tactical decisions and substitutions today ? :roll:

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augie wrote:
M-50 wrote:Is the optimism back yet? :barscarf:

In wenger ?? Did you not watch his tactical decisions and substitutions today ? :roll:
I happened to think that he substitution at half-time regarding Jack was an excellent move. Wilshere was having a smiliar experience that he had against Liverpool and I was worried for him towards the end of the opening period.

Denilson played well.

Yes, Walcott should have came on at the 75th min mark when we were running around in circles on the half-way line but we got 3 points and defended resolutely and after all that's happened we can go top next weekend.

Positive minds needed

:barscarf:

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M-50 wrote:
augie wrote:
M-50 wrote:Is the optimism back yet? :barscarf:

In wenger ?? Did you not watch his tactical decisions and substitutions today ? :roll:
I happened to think that he substitution at half-time regarding Jack was an excellent move. Wilshere was having a smiliar experience that he had against Liverpool and I was worried for him towards the end of the opening period.

Denilson played well.
Yes, Walcott should have came on at the 75th min mark when we were running around in circles on the half-way line but we got 3 points and defended resolutely and after all that's happened we can go top next weekend.

Positive minds needed

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Denilson only played well for the first 10 mins at most. :roll:

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Augie positive :? :wink:

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It doesn't reflect well on the manager that we so utterly lost our way in the last 15 minutes and our back five were constantly having to repel attacks. Why didn't Wenger change things around, to give our players an outlet and to relieve the pressure?

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Magic Hat wrote:It doesn't reflect well on the manager that we so utterly lost our way in the last 15 minutes and our back five were constantly having to repel attacks. Why didn't Wenger change things around, to give our players an outlet and to relieve the pressure?
Come on mate, that's pretty timid. We didn't lose our way, Everton stepped up and went gung-ho.

We are playing against Everton, who this season have already showed immense courage to claw back 2-0 deficits and a team which we all know is pretty good. You can't just expect them to sit there and swallow their pride and allow us to see out the last 15 minutes.

Our manager sent out a team and made changes that got us a result. You can't make the game go the way you want it (the way you descri.

Job done, well done and let's kick on and win this f*cking league :barscarf:

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M-50 wrote:
Magic Hat wrote:It doesn't reflect well on the manager that we so utterly lost our way in the last 15 minutes and our back five were constantly having to repel attacks. Why didn't Wenger change things around, to give our players an outlet and to relieve the pressure?
Come on mate, that's pretty timid. We didn't lose our way, Everton stepped up and went gung-ho.

We are playing against Everton, who this season have already showed immense courage to claw back 2-0 deficits and a team which we all know is pretty good. You can't just expect them to sit there and swallow their pride and allow us to see out the last 15 minutes.

Our manager sent out a team and made changes that got us a result. You can't make the game go the way you want it (the way you descri.

Job done, well done and let's kick on and win this f*cking league :barscarf:
I absolutely take issue with that. Everton did not go gung-ho, they were pretty much the same, even after their changes. They did not step up until the last 5 minutes, a long time after we had really switched off.

If you feel that was going gung-ho, then I believe you may have a heart attack at Stoke.

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In Arsene I TRUST :bowing21:

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marcengels wrote:
M-50 wrote:
Magic Hat wrote:It doesn't reflect well on the manager that we so utterly lost our way in the last 15 minutes and our back five were constantly having to repel attacks. Why didn't Wenger change things around, to give our players an outlet and to relieve the pressure?
Come on mate, that's pretty timid. We didn't lose our way, Everton stepped up and went gung-ho.

We are playing against Everton, who this season have already showed immense courage to claw back 2-0 deficits and a team which we all know is pretty good. You can't just expect them to sit there and swallow their pride and allow us to see out the last 15 minutes.

Our manager sent out a team and made changes that got us a result. You can't make the game go the way you want it (the way you descri.

Job done, well done and let's kick on and win this f*cking league :barscarf:
I absolutely take issue with that. Everton did not go gung-ho, they were pretty much the same, even after their changes. They did not step up until the last 5 minutes, a long time after we had really switched off.

If you feel that was going gung-ho, then I believe you may have a heart attack at Stoke.

:wink:
Erm, yes they did.

I didn't say they played to their gung-ho tactics. But the manager has every intention of going gung-ho. A double substitution of Beckford and Yakubu (taking off both a midfielder and defender) is an indication of going gung-go.

If you feel that isn't going gung-ho, then I believe you should re-think :wink:

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