How many more threads ?

[SWLGooner]

But you can open as many
I hate Wenger
Wenger ate my hamster
Wenger has made me loco
Wenger made me kill my children
Wenger causes global warming

as u like

Ok pretty fair and above Board to me then !,

He may drone on but immy humble opinion he is right ,thye current malaise has EVERYTHING to do with the board and 1 person in particular one danny fizman ,may he rot in hell

Never said this to anyone before.

FUCK OFF DOWN THE SEVEN SISTERS

[USMartin]

Herd I appreciate the point you were rtrying to make there on my behalf, I genuinely do, and I understand the feelings you are feeling about what has happened and even about wehat Mr Fiszman may well have done for himself and to Arsenal but the last line is just bang out-of-order. I won't tell you how to think for yourself but that was best kept to yourself, mate.

Some times the old cliche about if you haven't got anything nice to say really does hold true. You can hate was Mr Fiszman has done or hate what you think he may have done - you don't have to hate Mr. Fiszman or anyone forpersonally for that matter.Hell, I hate some of the shit some people have done on here, olgit for example, but I don't actually hate olgit. Do i like him.....ahhhh....no, but I don't hate him, and just like hating him would accomplish nothing hating Mr. Fiszman accomplishes nothing, even if you can hate his actions with some justifcation perhaps.

[USMartin]

But you can open as many
I hate Wenger
Wenger ate my hamster
Wenger has made me loco
Wenger made me kill my children
Wenger causes global warming

as u like

But this part was quite funny the best humour often is based in truth

[1989]

But you can open as many
I hate Wenger
Wenger ate my hamster
Wenger has made me loco
Wenger made me kill my children
Wenger causes global warming

as u like

Ok pretty fair and above Board to me then !,

He may drone on but immy humble opinion he is right ,thye current malaise has EVERYTHING to do with the board and 1 person in particular one danny fizman ,may he rot in hell

Scum.

[Henry Norris 1913]

I hate our board- but I've had enough of the repetitive threads.
And I don't like what Fiszman did at arsenal and the way he turned our club into a plaything for the yuppies and JCLs but theres nothing clever about wishing an ARSENAL man to rot in hell :awnker:

herd your totally missing the point . martin's shit about the board starts in match threads until everyone tells him to FUCK OFF because its the MATCH THREAD. He thens decides to open 3 threads all about something we've already discussed with USM 67 trillion times.

I agree with 75% of what he says but for some reason he hates any criticism being thrown at wenger without anyone mentioning the board which makes his paranoid anti-board posts a bit silly and funny to read. If you can't acknowledge what wenger has done to us then your the one fooling yourself marty

[antgel]

I normally agree with herd on things. Including the hypocrisy of people complaining about repetitive threads when so many people on here can barely go a post let alone a thread without Wenger out...

But rot in hell? Join the "I take it too seriously" club.

[TeeCee]

Martins off again, cut and pasting from his god knows how many times posted borefest................

[USMartin]

I hate our board- but I've had enough of the repetitive threads.
And I don't like what Fiszman did at arsenal and the way he turned our club into a plaything for the yuppies and JCLs but theres nothing clever about wishing an ARSENAL man to rot in hell :awnker:

herd your totally missing the point . martin's shit about the board starts in match threads until everyone tells him to FUCK OFF because its the MATCH THREAD. He thens decides to open 3 threads all about something we've already discussed with USM 67 trillion times.

I agree with 75% of what he says but for some reason he hates any criticism being thrown at wenger without anyone mentioning the board which makes his paranoid anti-board posts a bit silly and funny to read. If you can't acknowledge what wenger has done to us then your the one fooling yourself marty

No Henry what I hate is that too many Gooners want to lay this solely at the Manager's feet when there is no evidence to support that, and that only makes it easier for the Board to continue these policies because they don't have to answer for them as long as they have Arsene Wenger around to create the confusion and be the lightning rod for them.

I hate the fact that there is no proof whatsoever that anything would change under a new manager right now because as long as the supporters focus their criticism of how the club is run on the manager alone whoever he is again, they can hide behind him and continue to take advantage of us.

Perfect example - a 40 million GBP warchest for transfers and wages? Well excuse me but the Manager made the club 33 million pounds the last five years, so that is less than 10 million GBP extra. Well some of that 33 million went into new wage deals some will point out fine. Then use some of the up to 100 million in the cash reserves that is available. After all, we no longer owe on anything but an annual mortgage on the stadium and there are penalties for early repayment there is no reason not to use some that money here and now while it still can be effectively I can see.

And iof its being saved as a precaution against the football bubble bursting as was suggested earlier maybe the same caution should have been shown about borrowing 300 million GBP building in the first place and certainly the same caution - about the housing bubble in this case - and borrowing another 120 million.

But so long as we all tell ourselves if the manager wasn';'t such a stubborn so-and-so no one who made those decisions had to account making them or why they made them or make them any differently going forward. That's what I hate. Well be having these circle jerks of debates until s***s supporters start hanging "2004 Oh Dear" signs at North London Derbies

[Peeman]

How much do tactics cost Martin ?
How much does it cost to motivate players ?

All I want is two numbers off you to the closest pound.

[USMartin]

How much do tactics cost Martin ?
How much does it cost to motivate players ?

All I want is two numbers off you to the closest pound.

I'll give you what I wish.

Again if we are honest there no really different tactics in place now now than the years where we finished in the top two every year anbd won the League three times.

The difference is the lack of quality and experience and past success in the players here now. From 1998-2005 we brought in proven players of proven quality and experience many of whom had already been key parts of successful teams or had grown in and around successful teams.

Now we buy players with potential rather than proven quality by and large and use the Premier League as their training facility istead of just the League Cup as back in 2004, and that lack of quality of experience and figuring in winning teams is much of if not all the difference really for me.

A good coach with great players will beat a great coach wiith good players far more often than not.

As for the motivation factor I think its hard to motivate over paid performers who know they are not expected to do better than to finish in the top four especially when you are one of the undermotivated as I suspect the manager may well be. I think that there is a top-down malaise among the footballing end of Arsenal since the Board made property construction and management its main priority. I don't think anyomne cares as much because they are under no pressure to from their employers and well paid to ease their wounds.

[Peeman]

How much do tactics cost Martin ?
How much does it cost to motivate players ?

All I want is two numbers off you to the closest pound.

I'll give you what I wish.

Again if we are honest there no really different tactics in place now now than the years where we finished in the top two every year anbd won the League three times.

The difference is the lack of quality and experience and past success in the players here now. From 1998-2005 we brought in proven players of proven quality and experience many of whom had already been key parts of successful teams or had grown in and around successful teams.

Now we buy players with potential rather than proven quality by and large and use the Premier League as their training facility istead of just the League Cup as back in 2004, and that lack of quality of experience and figuring in winning teams is much of if not all the difference really for me.

A good coach with great players will beat a great coach wiith good players far more often than not.

As for the motivation factor I think its hard to motivate over paid performers who know they are not expected to do better than to finish in the top four especially when you are one of the undermotivated as I suspect the manager may well be. I think that there is a top-down malaise among the footballing end of Arsenal since the Board made property construction and management its main priority. I don't think anyomne cares as much because they are under no pressure to from their employers and well paid to ease their wounds.

How much ??

[Arsenal 1991]

How much do tactics cost Martin ?
How much does it cost to motivate players ?

All I want is two numbers off you to the closest pound.

I'll give you what I wish.

Again if we are honest there no really different tactics in place now now than the years where we finished in the top two every year anbd won the League three times.

You can't be serious?

The difference is the lack of quality and experience and past success in the players here now. From 1998-2005 we brought in proven players of proven quality and experience many of whom had already been key parts of successful teams or had grown in and around successful teams.

Now we buy players with potential rather than proven quality by and large and use the Premier League as their training facility istead of just the League Cup as back in 2004, and that lack of quality of experience and figuring in winning teams is much of if not all the difference really for me.

A good coach with great players will beat a great coach wiith good players far more often than not.

Ferguson and United beg to differ.

As for the motivation factor I think its hard to motivate over paid performers who know they are not expected to do better than to finish in the top four especially when you are one of the undermotivated as I suspect the manager may well be. I think that there is a top-down malaise among the footballing end of Arsenal since the Board made property construction and management its main priority. I don't think anyomne cares as much because they are under no pressure to from their employers and well paid to ease their wounds.

We've got a great first team with a few great squad players. 90% of our midfield and attackers are played out of position. They look far worse than they are. Walcott, Vela, Bendtner, Arshavin, Chamakh, RVP and probably Nasri would all flourish in different positions/formations.

[TeeCee]

He can't answer you Peeman, he never does. He's a one trick pony who has one train of thought and he's incapable of understanding or answering anything else. He answers questions with questions to get out of giving an answer....because he can't. The guy is retarded.

[USMartin]

TeeCee for the record I am not retarded, and you have just insulted millions who are and the families who love and care about them which alone is oproof you are in fact in *word censored*.

You cannot answer a question you cannot quanitfy. Someone show me an actual person who sells tactics or motivation alone as a coach of anything who is coaching a football club.

You're the little pussy and coward who's afraid to answer and show it over and over again. I have asked you repeatedly to prove that Mr. Wenger is being offered more money and rejecting. Not only don't you have the ability to prove you don't have the corage to acknowledge you run and hit likre the little pussy you will always be in the end. Always.

My guess is if a group of s***s were giving you a kicking on the street iit would because they could see you were just a *word censored* even if you weren't Arsenal.

You the one who never answers questions and isn't man enough to admit he can't.

I hope one day you call the wrong person retarded and get your arse kicked for it. Couldn't happen to a nicer *word censored* and I mean that.

[mcdowell42]

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