How to make sense of Nasri situation

LeftfootlegendGooner · Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:16 pm

Laughable.... how on gods earth do you know what he was " thinking" lol. It's about money and is engineered by his agent, you really do give too much credit to these players with all this "thinking" talk.

Modern football players are controlled by agents and money, end of.

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:36 pm

LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Laughable.... how on gods earth do you know what he was " thinking" lol. It's about money and is engineered by his agent, you really do give too much credit to these players with all this "thinking" talk.

Modern football players are controlled by agents and money, end of.

Surely players want to win trophies. Play in the Cup Final. Hold the FA Cup ( whatever ) up?

Surely players also want to play for their childhood team, and the National team.

I agree that there are many that just take the money, but there must be more to it than that?

Why does Denilson want a move, for example? Getting so much money and doesn't even have to do anything for it, but he wants out!

It's not just all about the money, although will agree that it's a huge part of it nowadays.

GoonerN5 · Post by **GoonerN5** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:59 pm

If its down to money then pay Nasri what hes worth, instaed of paying *word censored* like Bendtner, Diaby, Song etc who are all shit and are being paid thousands more than they are worth, if its down to ambition then who can blame Nasri for wanting to leave, we will win fuck all again under Wenger, so fair play to them for wanting to leave to win things, because at the end of their career when they retire they will want medals to show, who can blame Nasri and Cesc for wanting to go, im suprised Van Persie doesnt want to go too, and theres only one man to blame for them wanting to go

worthing gooner · Post by **worthing gooner** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:13 pm

The fans are loyal but players are not. Nothing new in that.
Never be suprised when players/agents are working their angle for moves or rises. If he goes he goes, i have no affinity to the players anymore just the club (and thats being tested). 6 months of looking like a cracking player then in and out form with injuries.
If he is at UTD next year so be it.

RoyalGunner · Post by **RoyalGunner** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:22 pm

I have such a hard time understanding one thing. How does Arsenal want to go about being at the top level without making their players happy and paying their TOP players wages that are comperable to other clubs' best players. We all know how much money this club has, and the players know this too.

It's funny how Arsene has this idea in his mind he won't oversepnd $1 for a player. It's extremly foolish...

Yes, Nasri has been trying to milk a raise to make him on the same pay grade as Fabregas. Could you blame him? he is, along Fab, our two most creative and commanding players. Piss off if you're going to hate Nasri b/c stupid reports say he "won't rule out United" What he said was translated, obv. and that doesn't mean shit.
He is not leaving, so don't get your panties all twirled....if you are one of the fans singing Nasri's game every single game this season, even when he got hurt after the brilliant first half, and now won't speak his name, shame on you. Shame on YOUR loyalty to this club, not his. Al he wants is to be paid what he's worth, I cannot blame.

TeeCee · Post by **TeeCee** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:32 pm

If Nasri gets a big wage rise, followed by Clichy getting 90k a week as some papers are reporting, then be prepared to sign just one or two cheap players this summer because Wenger will tell us half of the money available has gone on keeping (a failing) squad together!!

Step · Post by **Step** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:59 pm

Can't blame him at all.

Why should he stay when Wenger shows no inclination to sign any proven , passionate , quality players.

Wenger is good at bringing in relative unknowns and developing them into good players.

The trouble he has is supplementing them with signings which will convince the players to stay rather than kicking off the inevitable Summers of speculation which we get every year concerning our better players.

The project will never work under its current format.

Come on Arsene this really is your last chance.

Do the obvious- Cahill/Parker and Benzime for starters.

Gunnersaurus · Post by **Gunnersaurus** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:17 pm

Nasri is ambitious and wants to make the most out of his career financialy and on the pitch, he can not be knocked, the only person that can be knocked is the man that signs them and expects them to be happy with finishing in the top 4.

Until he shows real ambition we will always be a stepping stone.

topgoon · Post by **topgoon** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:37 pm

Gunnersaurus wrote:Nasri is ambitious and wants to make the most out of his career financialy and on the pitch, he can not be knocked, the only person that can be knocked is the man that signs them and expects them to be happy with finishing in the top 4.

Until he shows real ambition we will always be a stepping stone.

His ambition seems to disappear in away games, big games and in Cup finals.

AW may be to blame for where we are but if Nasri thinks we are not good enough, he wants to ask himself why it's taken 3 years for him to show he's not just yet another passenger at the Arsenal.

I have no problem with players who leave when the club no longer matches their ambition but Nasri has been letting us down for 3 years.

We've all said in season's past how much he goes missing at away games and how we thought he wasn't doing enough in games, yet because we hate AW now we accept what Nasri is doing.

AW isn't the club, WE ARE and that c**t has shown us no respect whatsoever with that interview. He is Greedy markII and I expect him to be treated the same as greedy if he does stay.

One season does not make you world class and give you the right to hold the club(Us, not AW) to ransom.

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:18 pm

Wenger pumps these players up in the press. Then they pump Wenger for big pay rises.

How people see the logic of Wenger's transfer dealings is beyond me. It is fucking the Club. It is actually threatening the Club's financial stability. We are playing players big money to stay in a team that won't win trophies. If we were winning trophies, I reckon our wage bill would actually be lower.

1989 · Post by **1989** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:24 pm

frankbutcher wrote:Wenger pumps these players up in the press. Then they pump Wenger for big pay rises.

How people see the logic of Wenger's transfer dealings is beyond me. It is fucking the Club. It is actually threatening the Club's financial stability. We are playing players big money to stay in a team that won't win trophies. If we were winning trophies, I reckon our wage bill would actually be lower.

Wenger is fucking the club up period. The board are too far up his arse to see it.

He fucked Monaco up too, that's why they sacked him.

If Wenger is still here in 2014, I'm willing to bet that we'll long have become a midtable side.

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:33 pm

1989 wrote:
frankbutcher wrote:Wenger pumps these players up in the press. Then they pump Wenger for big pay rises.

How people see the logic of Wenger's transfer dealings is beyond me. It is fucking the Club. It is actually threatening the Club's financial stability. We are playing players big money to stay in a team that won't win trophies. If we were winning trophies, I reckon our wage bill would actually be lower.
Wenger is fucking the club up period. The board are too far up his arse to see it.

He fucked Monaco up too, that's why they sacked him.

If Wenger is still here in 2014, I'm willing to bet that we'll long have become a midtable side.

The longer we don't win trophies, the more money we need to pay players to stay, whilst at the same time forgoing prize money and less lucrative sponorship deals.

This is not the Board at work, This is Wenger's doing. Any businessman worth his salt would see the problems with Wenger's acceptance of mediocrity. It costs the Club on the pitch and off of it.

Just watch Kroenke put his foot down in the next 12 months.... He will not take any shite from Wenger.

RoyalGunner · Post by **RoyalGunner** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:05 pm

If there's one thing I learned over the decades of being an Arsenal supporter, fans, no matter which club, thrive on follow a fucking bandwagon b/c they can't think on their own.

Nasri IS staying. He is NOT joining manu so get your dick outa ur ass if you think this b/c evra *word censored* would like him to.

All Nasri wants is for Wenger to STOP talking about big transfer and finally act. Players demand he reinforce the best players of the team in obvious areas that need help. a.k.a Defense.
With Fab leaving soon, how the fuck would you bet we'd do without Nasri as well.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:18 pm

My hunch is that the Nasri talk is just his agent agitating for more money, but in this day and age one never knows for sure.

Player loyalty to clubs, and club loyalty to players, is at an all time low.

You know what?

If Cesc, Nasri and Arsehavin leave we could buy new players, probably taller stronger players, and play a bit more direct.

It could work to our advantage.

Post by **Barriecuda** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:55 am

QuartzGooner wrote:If Cesc, Nasri and Arsehavin leave we could buy new players, probably taller stronger players, and play a bit more direct.

It could work to our advantage.

Could but probably wouldn't, to be honest. It's not like we can't afford them, nor haven't been able to afford them, for a while.

As for Nasri - he should check his ego. He was brought here as a promising player and in 3 years has only had one "stellar" campaign which largely fizzled out by December. He is likely frustrated being played out of position, as I would be. But on the facts, he doesn't deserve the kind of pay raise he's asking for. Cesc has been a proven star on this team for many years and is also the club's captain. If Nasri honestly thinks he's comparable to that level of consistent performance, he's naive.

I really don't know what's going to happen with him right now. It's not worth paying over the odds for him if we're not going to get any better players as a result because there are much bigger holes to fill. However, he's an influential attacking player on his day and if he can return to his early-season form he would be well worth a large paycheque.