Terracing at the E*******

[1886]

Safc, I'm not certain mate. I stand occasionally at Dover Athletic from the conference south. They have small attendances of around 600 so you don't have the surges going forward and you're not packed in like you used to be, but its still quality and I'd take it over sitting any day. I do agree with you that it might not be as great as it used to be, but it would still be a huge improvement on the seats.

[SWLGooner]

Incidentally, would people be willing to pay £35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

Standing tickets a bit cheaper but you get more people in the same area so make more money than if it was seats.

Hamburg as an example have 4300 in the standing section when seated, 8500 when standing. 500 away fans seated, 1000 standing.

You have 30 rows in the lower tier, and 24, 425 people.

32 blocks I make that approximately 750 per block.

Eight blocks, from 5 through 12, that's six thousand seats.

33 a ticket for Cat B, thats 19800 quid from the NB Lower.

Make it sixteen thousand standing places. Charge everyone sixteen pounds, they make just over 250,000 a game.

Arsenal make fifty thousand extra a game, and you pay 16 quid to stand on the North Bank.

Cat A its 48 a ticket, call it say 30 for a standing ticket, when we play the scum they make what 480,000 from standing, as opposed to 384,000 for 8,000 seating.

You'd pay about 550 quid for a Season Ticket.

[SWLGooner]

Incidentally, would people be willing to pay £35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

Standing tickets a bit cheaper but you get more people in the same area so make more money than if it was seats.

Hamburg as an example have 4300 in the standing section when seated, 8500 when standing. 500 away fans seated, 1000 standing.

You have 30 rows in the lower tier, and 24, 425 people.

32 blocks I make that approximately 750 per block.

Eight blocks, from 5 through 12, that's six thousand seats.

33 a ticket for Cat B, thats 19800 quid from the NB Lower.

Make it sixteen thousand standing places. Charge everyone sixteen pounds, they make just over 250,000 a game.

Arsenal make fifty thousand extra a game, and you pay 16 quid to stand on the North Bank.

Cat A its 48 a ticket, call it say 30 for a standing ticket, when we play the scum they make what 480,000 from standing, as opposed to 384,000 for 8,000 seating.

You'd pay about 550 quid for a Season Ticket.

[NBN]

Incidentally, would people be willing to pay £35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

I would happily pay more to stand than sit.

[DUFFMAN]

Incidentally, would people be willing to pay £35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

Standing tickets a bit cheaper but you get more people in the same area so make more money than if it was seats.

agree 100%

no way i can see the money grabbing c*nts reducing the price for any reason but i would happily still pay the 35quid.

i have never even folded my seat down let alone sat in it,infact most weeks i dont even stand where my seat is,i go stand with a mate so it kinda is like the old days(ok a million miles from that but as good as it can be at the e*******)
the biggest draw for doing this would be a clearer seperation from the plastics/soccer mums.at least they'd know to stay well away the terraced end

[tel]

In next weeks meeting Gazidis removes the word gullible from the dictionary.

[LyusN1]

In next weeks meeting Gazidis removes the word gullible from the dictionary.

REALLY!?

[DUFFMAN]

Incidentally, would people be willing to pay £35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

Standing tickets a bit cheaper but you get more people in the same area so make more money than if it was seats.

Hamburg as an example have 4300 in the standing section when seated, 8500 when standing. 500 away fans seated, 1000 standing.

You have 30 rows in the lower tier, and 24, 425 people.

32 blocks I make that approximately 750 per block.

Eight blocks, from 5 through 12, that's six thousand seats.

33 a ticket for Cat B, thats 19800 quid from the NB Lower.

Make it sixteen thousand standing places. Charge everyone sixteen pounds, they make just over 250,000 a game.

Arsenal make fifty thousand extra a game, and you pay 16 quid to stand on the North Bank.

Cat A its 48 a ticket, call it say 30 for a standing ticket, when we play the scum they make what 480,000 from standing, as opposed to 384,000 for 8,000 seating.

You'd pay about 550 quid for a Season Ticket.

did anyone else get halfway thru and start getting school exam flashbacks?

a train leaves dover at 8.15. it has 84 gallons of fuel and must reach scarborough by 13.49. on board are 314 passengers and the train travells an average speed of..............

[SWLGooner]

Incidentally, would people be willing to pay £35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

Standing tickets a bit cheaper but you get more people in the same area so make more money than if it was seats.

Hamburg as an example have 4300 in the standing section when seated, 8500 when standing. 500 away fans seated, 1000 standing.

You have 30 rows in the lower tier, and 24, 425 people.

32 blocks I make that approximately 750 per block.

Eight blocks, from 5 through 12, that's six thousand seats.

33 a ticket for Cat B, thats 19800 quid from the NB Lower.

Make it sixteen thousand standing places. Charge everyone sixteen pounds, they make just over 250,000 a game.

Arsenal make fifty thousand extra a game, and you pay 16 quid to stand on the North Bank.

Cat A its 48 a ticket, call it say 30 for a standing ticket, when we play the scum they make what 480,000 from standing, as opposed to 384,000 for 8,000 seating.

You'd pay about 550 quid for a Season Ticket.

did anyone else get halfway thru and start getting school exam flashbacks?

a train leaves dover at 8.15. it has 84 gallons of fuel and must reach scarborough by 13.49. on board are 314 passengers and the train travells an average speed of..............

You haven't spent the day calculating moles and Faradays and Avogadros, have you?

[frankbutcher]

GCSE Maths (French style)

1) If you have £40m, and you sell a player for £35m, how much money do you have to spend on new players?

a) £75m
b) £40m
c) No money.

2) What does it cost you to buy a prize wanker to play right back and the Chuckle brothers to play centre-back, if each earn £50k per week for 4 years?

a) c. £30m
b) The Premier League Title

[merson_is_god]

it'll never happen.

[Boomer]

First off the title of this thread is mis-leading. Terracing and safe standing are two different things. I think most of us know that Terracing won't return bt what might is safe standing.

As for Safestanding increasing attendance. I doubt this will be the case.
I think what will happpen is like buying a seat you get get allocate a place to sit. With safe standing you get a place to stand.
You'll get a row and a place.

And remember a UEFA rule is that all stadia is all seater. So seats will need to be installed and likely be part of the safe standing area's.

So you might need to the have amount standing as when needed to be seated especially if all ST's.

[DUFFMAN]

it'll never happen.

are you talking about the topic or the chances of you sending stuartL his gear?

[frankbutcher]

it'll never happen.

are you talking about the topic or the chances of you sending stuartL his gear?

[Dan_85]

As for Safestanding increasing attendance. I doubt this will be the case.
I think what will happpen is like buying a seat you get get allocate a place to sit. With safe standing you get a place to stand.
You'll get a row and a place.

The standing places are significantly smaller than the seating places though, particularly at our place where the seats are fucking huge.

http://www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/t ... ontinued-2
They go into detail about it here & the rulings, permitted spacing regulations etc. The rule of thumb is that for every 40 seated fans you could fit in 72 standing.

Show this to the board & they'll be tripping over themselves to get it installed;

And with higher capacities, potential gate receipts could naturally also be increased. The example below shows how this might work out if standing spaces were priced at a discount of, for instance £10 from the seat price.
For example (assuming 10% of a 40,000 all-seater stadium is converted to standing):

4,000 x seated fans at (say) £30 per ticket = £120,000

7,200 x standing fans at (say) £20 per ticket = £144,000

Potential extra gate revenue per game = £24,000

Potential extra gate revenue over a notional 20-game season = £480,000

Potential total extra revenue (including expenditure on drinks etc.) = £1,022,000

And the UEFA ruling is so fucking ludicrous & outdated. Even with safe standing, for the UEFA games where the seats have to be flipped down people still continue to stand in front of them anyway, just as we do now. It's a rule that makes absolutely no difference, its ridiculous.