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Nos89 wrote:
Also, where is the evidence of the the 757 jet hitting the pentagon, and where are the bodies and the wreckage from flight 93?
The two dead men in my uncle's office? Does that fucking satisfy you? :awnker:
Of course there was a cover up, covering up the sheer fucking incompetence of the government, but anyone who thinks it was not done by Al-Qaeda needs their head checked, then smashed to fuck with a blunt instrument.
Sid, cheers, it's *word censored* like you who help fucking legitimise this sort of thing.
Self inflicted was it? Let's see a plane crash into your house, see how you fucking like it when your family are dead you fucking *word censored*, it's your fault for no other reason than you being Irish?
northbankbren wrote:Shit SWL. Clearly a lot closer to home for you. Hope your uncle was ok?
I always find some of the conspiracys so uneducated and uninformed.
The BBC have actually done a couple of really good docs in the last couple of weeks, that make some of the consiracy theories look pathetic.
Amazing that most of these theories come from people who havent even spoke to anyone at the scenes.
Cheers for the concern mate. Depends what you mean, he is physically now fine, just relatively minor injuries, but mentally not really at all.
I agree that there was a cover up, but there are always people who use that as an excuse to feed on their racism and blame it on the US Government, who to be fair were bungling fools at the best of times, but to accuse them of inside job is just disgraceful
Of the 2,977 people killed in the September 11 attacks, 411 were emergency workers in New York City who responded to the World Trade Center. This included:
341 firefighters and 2 paramedics from the New York City Fire Department (FDNY);[1]
37 police officers from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Police Department (PAPD);[2]
23 police officers from the New York City Police Department (NYPD);[3] and
8 emergency medical technicians and paramedics from private emergency medical services.[4][5]
northbankbren wrote:Shit SWL. Clearly a lot closer to home for you. Hope your uncle was ok?
I always find some of the conspiracys so uneducated and uninformed.
The BBC have actually done a couple of really good docs in the last couple of weeks, that make some of the consiracy theories look pathetic.
Amazing that most of these theories come from people who havent even spoke to anyone at the scenes.
Cheers for the concern mate. Depends what you mean, he is physically now fine, just relatively minor injuries, but mentally not really at all.
I agree that there was a cover up, but there are always people who use that as an excuse to feed on their racism and blame it on the US Government, who to be fair were bungling fools at the best of times, but to accuse them of inside job is just disgraceful
SWL Gooner I apologise if you find what I wrote as offensive. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the emergency services of New York and New Jersey, who worked trielessly to help survivors and searched for any remains of those that perished.
So, can you tell what you think was covered up and by whom?
The real heroes on that day,(besides the rescue services),were the passengers on United 93 who,despite realising the probable result of their actions),decided to fight back,giving their lives to potentially save hundreds of others.
Also the poor souls who decided that it was better to jump from those buildings than to stay.
In my opinion,all these conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 do is denegrate the memory of the people who lost their lives,and prolong the suffering of the families left behind.
The facts are a group of brainwashed,religious fanatics hi-jacked 4 planes,killed the pilots,(and some crew members),with box cutters,then flew 2 of them into the World Trade Centre,(no,I will not spell it the American way),1 into the Pentagon,and were stopped from flying one into a building in Washington.In the process they killed 3000+ people,and tore apart countless families-FACTS!!!
northbankbren wrote:Shit SWL. Clearly a lot closer to home for you. Hope your uncle was ok?
I always find some of the conspiracys so uneducated and uninformed.
The BBC have actually done a couple of really good docs in the last couple of weeks, that make some of the consiracy theories look pathetic.
Amazing that most of these theories come from people who havent even spoke to anyone at the scenes.
Cheers for the concern mate. Depends what you mean, he is physically now fine, just relatively minor injuries, but mentally not really at all.
I agree that there was a cover up, but there are always people who use that as an excuse to feed on their racism and blame it on the US Government, who to be fair were bungling fools at the best of times, but to accuse them of inside job is just disgraceful
SWL Gooner I apologise if you find what I wrote as offensive. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the emergency services of New York and New Jersey, who worked trielessly to help survivors and searched for any remains of those that perished.
So, can you tell what you think was covered up and by whom?
No worries mate, I always get massively touchy this time of year.
Look... I think anything that is reasonably believed to be covered up, and there's not as much as some would say, is either down to chance or government officials covering their own backs, which is disgraceful IMO, but there you go. I for one am perfectly happy not knowing exactly what happened that terrible day, don't want to know more.
i'll never forget that day, it was my last year on high school. i was leaving class at noon when my cousin who studied in the same school told me the world war three had begun and that the terrorists were throwing airplanes at american buildings kamikaze style.
i remember that the walk from school to my place was something like 15 minutes, but that day it took me only 5. my dad was shocked, paralyzed in front of the telly. then all the horrible images and stories, fuck me, what a horrible day.
not a religious person myself, but i give all my thoughts and good vibrations to those who lost someone or were somehow affected by that day. absolutely horrible stuff
SWL, i didn't know you had relatives envolved in it mate. hope your uncle is ok and that those horrible moments get away from his memory.
northbankbren wrote:Shit SWL. Clearly a lot closer to home for you. Hope your uncle was ok?
I always find some of the conspiracys so uneducated and uninformed.
The BBC have actually done a couple of really good docs in the last couple of weeks, that make some of the consiracy theories look pathetic.
Amazing that most of these theories come from people who havent even spoke to anyone at the scenes.
Cheers for the concern mate. Depends what you mean, he is physically now fine, just relatively minor injuries, but mentally not really at all.
I agree that there was a cover up, but there are always people who use that as an excuse to feed on their racism and blame it on the US Government, who to be fair were bungling fools at the best of times, but to accuse them of inside job is just disgraceful
SWL Gooner I apologise if you find what I wrote as offensive. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the emergency services of New York and New Jersey, who worked trielessly to help survivors and searched for any remains of those that perished.
So, can you tell what you think was covered up and by whom?
No worries mate, I always get massively touchy this time of year.
Look... I think anything that is reasonably believed to be covered up, and there's not as much as some would say, is either down to chance or government officials covering their own backs, which is disgraceful IMO, but there you go. I for one am perfectly happy not knowing exactly what happened that terrible day, don't want to know more.
Absolutely agree with that sentiment. They should be held accountable for their incompetence but sadly that won't happen. The victims and their families deserve better.
LyusN1 wrote:Questions do need to be asked. It doesn't add up.
Just like 'Oh we got Bin Laden and, trust us, we have pictures but we buried him in the sea really quickly and also no one can see the pictures'.
I have a seriously hard time believing everything that comes out 'officially' - and that's putting it politely.
Even 'colleagues' of Bin Laden have admitted he is dead. And don't you think if he were still alive he wouldn't have made an appearance by now to embarrass the US authorities?
Don't really want to drag this back to here since it is obviously too close to home for some people.
But who's to say he wasn't already dead in the first place and this whole thing about the Marines blasting into a compound and nabbing him wasn't just a cover story for American morale to prove their supremacy?
goonersid wrote:I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of that bastard race country. 9/11 whilst a tragedy, was somewhat self-inflicted, the us is the worlds biggest terrorist aided and abetted by their uk sidekick.
And the "murder"of bin laden will reap a similar atrocity.
Fuck the yanks and their big fucking mouths.
PS I'm still a bit drink from last night, but I do hate fucking yanks.
9/11 self inflicted? Enlighten me with your geo-political theories as to why this is the case.
My understanding is that bin laden was radicalised against the US when American troops were stationed in Saudi Arabia during the first gulf war. He and many others like him reacted angrily against the US army for things like having women serving, chewing gum and generally being massively out of place with the pseudo-medieval saudi society.
This was pure intolerance and hatred on the part of these terrorists and any attempt to say otherwise is a disgrace.
I await the standard response ranting about oil/Israel.
Terrible event and thoughts go out to all those who were affected.
As far as the conspiracies go, I recently on holiday read the book 'Voodo Histories' by David Aaronovitch which was basically looking at conspiracy theorys over time and debunking them. One thing that just became clear to me, which was strengthened by the bbc documentary that was posted earlier in this thread, was just how paranoid and closed minded some of the theorists are. The conspiracy theroies can grow and evolve to overcome the most inconveniant truths to the point of complete ridiculous assumptions and tales. While it is highly probable that incompetence of the government was covered up. To suggest that the government orchestrated the whole thing is absolutely ludicrous.
