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Babatunde wrote: It does not force clubs to give a minority the job.
It forces them to give them an opportunity to interview for it.
That cannot be a bad thing. As a white person can still end up always getting the job...
Is that meant to be intentionally racist?
Babatunde is Nigerian/French I believe so I doubt it
Yes. A I am card-carrying BNP member and Nick Griffin aficionado.
Me and my part Nigerian heritage. Well done Rodders on managing to find a faux racist angle from a post in which I was DEFENDING giving black managers more of a chance.
Is it not perhaps the case that players tend not to go into management until around 20 years after they first started playing and as black players only really started to get a fair showing in the top tiers in the last 10-15 years then there is going to be an inevitable increase now?
JMascis666 wrote:
You can't just crowbar people into positions because of the colour of their skin it should be on merit.
Agreed.
Which is why I like this rule as it gives some people a chance at a job which they might not otherwise have been given.
Dont you think that if they were a good manager they would be considered in the first place regardless of the colour of their skin. In many cases in the NFL teams just interview a minority candidate just for the sake of it when they have no intention of hiring them and rendering the rule useless.
JMascis666 wrote:
You can't just crowbar people into positions because of the colour of their skin it should be on merit.
Agreed.
Which is why I like this rule as it gives some people a chance at a job which they might not otherwise have been given.
Dont you think that if they were a good manager they would be considered in the first place regardless of the colour of their skin. In many cases in the NFL teams just interview a minority candidate just for the sake of it when they have no intention of hiring them and rendering the rule useless.
I do not think this issue has arisen for no reason, it has come from the PFA and there appears to be careful consideration given to mentioning it in the first place.
From what I read it seems that Black ex-players are not being considered for management interviews in proportion to the amount of black players in the playing side of the game.
If the rule was implemented then in many cases they would not get hired if the owner had an agenda, but there might be cases where they make a good impression and get hired, or get recommended for another job in football.
JMascis666 wrote:
You can't just crowbar people into positions because of the colour of their skin it should be on merit.
Agreed.
Which is why I like this rule as it gives some people a chance at a job which they might not otherwise have been given.
Dont you think that if they were a good manager they would be considered in the first place regardless of the colour of their skin. In many cases in the NFL teams just interview a minority candidate just for the sake of it when they have no intention of hiring them and rendering the rule useless.
I do not think this issue has arisen for no reason, it has come from the PFA and there appears to be careful consideration given to mentioning it in the first place.
From what I read it seems that Black ex-players are not being considered for management interviews in proportion to the amount of black players in the playing side of the game.
If the rule was implemented then in many cases they would not get hired if the owner had an agenda, but there might be cases where they make a good impression and get hired, or get recommended for another job in football.
I agree with this. The potential upsides are greater than the, let's face it, pretty insignificant downsides.
I do however have problems with 'affirmative action' and 'positive discrimination' per se.
