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Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Walcott is the most over-rated player in the Premier League. He's an athlete with some football ability and his priorities are :-
1. His wallet
2. His image
3. England
4. Arsenal
He sums up the current Arsenal - nowhere near as good as he thinks he is!!
Never a more accurate post on this forum
With respect, it is innaccurate.
If you had met him you realise the bloke is a professional, just not been given the correct coaching.
I'm not looking to get into a slanging match mate (a la USMartin) but how long did you meet for? Was it long enough to form an in-depth opinion of what makes him tick??
Because don't forget we're talking about a 23 year old multi millionaire footballer that hasn't won a single trophy or medal in his professional playing career. And what about his stupid books "T.J. and the Hat-Trick", "T.J. and the Penalty", "T.J. and the Winning Goal" and "T.J. and the Cup Run". Why is a footballer writing tripe like that, apart from to make even more money??
And talking about books - he "wrote" his autobiography this year (at 23!!) in which he slagged off the England manager. Writing his life story at 23 - why else would someone do that other than to cash in on his image??
Also - Top Gear wanted to do a road test of the new Mercedes SLS supercar. Trouble is they're so rare they couldn't get hold of one so guess what?? Young Theo loaned them his £175,000 SLS for their filming - how many other 23 year olds can afford one of them??
He sums all all that is wrong with modern football - he's been given far too much, far too young when he's done nothing to warrant it.
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Walcott is the most over-rated player in the Premier League. He's an athlete with some football ability and his priorities are :-
1. His wallet
2. His image
3. England
4. Arsenal
He sums up the current Arsenal - nowhere near as good as he thinks he is!!
Never a more accurate post on this forum
With respect, it is innaccurate.
If you had met him you realise the bloke is a professional, just not been given the correct coaching.
I'm not looking to get into a slanging match mate (a la USMartin) but how long did you meet for? Was it long enough to form an in-depth opinion of what makes him tick??
Because don't forget we're talking about a 23 year old multi millionaire footballer that hasn't won a single trophy or medal in his professional playing career. And what about his stupid books "T.J. and the Hat-Trick", "T.J. and the Penalty", "T.J. and the Winning Goal" and "T.J. and the Cup Run". Why is a footballer writing tripe like that, apart from to make even more money??
And talking about books - he "wrote" his autobiography this year (at 23!!) in which he slagged off the England manager. Writing his life story at 23 - why else would someone do that other than to cash in on his image??
Also - Top Gear wanted to do a road test of the new Mercedes SLS supercar. Trouble is they're so rare they couldn't get hold of one so guess what?? Young Theo loaned them his £175,000 SLS for their filming - how many other 23 year olds can afford one of them??
He sums all all that is wrong with modern football - he's been given far too much, far too young when he's done nothing to warrant it.
I met him for a while, not just a cursory autograph.
He came across as a well rounded bloke who was serious about his football, who was doing what he could to improve in the glare of the public.
Why should he apologise for being rich, having a nice car, or managing to have a fit girlfriend?
Or for writing books? It is not as if he wrote them during training, he mentioned some of his experiences to an author who wrote them, and he got cash for them. Good luck to him.
If he was a lazy player I would not want him in the squad, but work ethic has never been one of his problems in my opinion.
His ability to link with the play at times is a problem, and that is down to coaching and team shape.
Actually Quartz I was wrong. Walcott's car that he loaned to Top Gear wasn't a £175,000 SLS - it was a £250,000 Mercedes SL 65 Black. £250,000!! In addition to the £145,000 Ferrari he bought his girlfriend. - If you're relaxed about such wealth (when we're basically funding it) then we look at Arsenal FC in a very different light.
My point is that Walcott has achieved precious little in his short career, except for a huge amount of money and a carefully crafted media image. None of that would matter as much if he had a medal cabinet like Wayne Rooney - but he doesn't. He has a medal cabinet like Scrooge's cupboard - there's f**k all in it!! And he's played 183 times for Arsenal - if he can't work out what he should be doing by now then he shouldn't be at a top club.
He strikes me as the sort of player that is far too happy with the lifestyle, especially when he has done nothing to warrant it.
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Actually Quartz I was wrong. Walcott's car that he loaned to Top Gear wasn't a £175,000 SLS - it was a £250,000 Mercedes SL 65 Black. £250,000!! In addition to the £145,000 Ferrari he bought his girlfriend. - If you're relaxed about such wealth (when we're basically funding it) then we look at Arsenal FC in a very different light.
My point is that Walcott has achieved precious little in his short career, except for a huge amount of money and a carefully crafted media image. None of that would matter as much if he had a medal cabinet like Wayne Rooney - but he doesn't. He has a medal cabinet like Scrooge's cupboard - there's f**k all in it!! And he's played 183 times for Arsenal - if he can't work out what he should be doing by now then he shouldn't be at a top club.
He strikes me as the sort of player that is far too happy with the lifestyle, especially when he has done nothing to warrant it.
Yep, got to agree with that JFG, and with what you've put above, I knew after a just a few games that he wouldn't make it, yet he's still here, he's an impact last 10-15 mins sub at best, other than that, he shouldn't be anywhere starting games for us, especially with the Billy Big Bollocks attitude that he seems to have developed for this season!!!
I like him he's played out of position, and he's shown some great moments. If we played him up front we'd see how good he is. TA would have been a shit trequartista, Ian Wright would have been bugger all use at left back, but that means nothing.
SWLGooner wrote:I like him he's played out of position, and he's shown some great moments. If we played him up front we'd see how good he is. TA would have been a shit trequartista, Ian Wright would have been bugger all use at left back, but that means nothing.
Walcott gets too much stick for me. Some people on here make a beeline for him when (like today) he was poor but so were a large number of the team. He has made some important contributions in a terrible start to the season.
As for whether he will ever be the type of player who can consistently take a game by the scruff of the neck I doubt. But then again there are only a knife jugglers' handful of players like that in our league.
If Walcott had gone to manure instead of Young this summer I firmly believe that their discipline and coaching would have done every bit as good to Theo as it has done for Young. We are no longer a coherrent team. Theo is just another ill-placed cog in a dysfunctional machine.
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott gets too much stick for me. Some people on here make a beeline for him when (like today) he was poor but so were a large number of the team. He has made some important contributions in a terrible start to the season.
As for whether he will ever be the type of player who can consistently take a game by the scruff of the neck I doubt. But then again there are only a knife jugglers' handful of players like that in our league.
If Walcott had gone to manure instead of Young this summer I firmly believe that their discipline and coaching would have done every bit as good to Theo as it has done for Young. We are no longer a coherrent team. Theo is just another ill-placed cog in a dysfunctional machine.
To be fair mate todays match thread has us fans slating gervinho, ramsey, song, rvp (me) and theo so he isnt being picked on as such. What fcuks me off is that I think the guy gets cut a lot more slack than he is entitled to because he is english and some many of us fans want a team based on british and Irish talents again For me I would sell him in the morning if we got 15m and I wouldnt care if he ended up at barca, manure or even the scum cos he isnt good enough for us
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott gets too much stick for me. Some people on here make a beeline for him when (like today) he was poor but so were a large number of the team. He has made some important contributions in a terrible start to the season.
As for whether he will ever be the type of player who can consistently take a game by the scruff of the neck I doubt. But then again there are only a knife jugglers' handful of players like that in our league.
If Walcott had gone to manure instead of Young this summer I firmly believe that their discipline and coaching would have done every bit as good to Theo as it has done for Young. We are no longer a coherrent team. Theo is just another ill-placed cog in a dysfunctional machine.
To be fair mate todays match thread has us fans slating gervinho, ramsey, song, rvp (me) and theo so he isnt being picked on as such. What fcuks me off is that I think the guy gets cut a lot more slack than he is entitled to because he is english and some many of us fans want a team based on british and Irish talents again For me I would sell him in the morning if we got 15m and I wouldnt care if he ended up at barca, manure or even the scum cos he isnt good enough for us
They're aren't many players that if sold I would give a fuck about.
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott gets too much stick for me. Some people on here make a beeline for him when (like today) he was poor but so were a large number of the team. He has made some important contributions in a terrible start to the season.
As for whether he will ever be the type of player who can consistently take a game by the scruff of the neck I doubt. But then again there are only a knife jugglers' handful of players like that in our league.
If Walcott had gone to manure instead of Young this summer I firmly believe that their discipline and coaching would have done every bit as good to Theo as it has done for Young. We are no longer a coherrent team. Theo is just another ill-placed cog in a dysfunctional machine.
To be fair mate todays match thread has us fans slating gervinho, ramsey, song, rvp (me) and theo so he isnt being picked on as such. What fcuks me off is that I think the guy gets cut a lot more slack than he is entitled to because he is english and some many of us fans want a team based on british and Irish talents again For me I would sell him in the morning if we got 15m and I wouldnt care if he ended up at barca, manure or even the scum cos he isnt good enough for us
They're aren't many players that if sold I would give a fuck about.
Exactly how I feel with this present bunch of gutless bottlers who are masquerading at our great club, I have no feeling for any of them at all!!
The lad has the potential to develop into a Darren Bent level player possibly if he fully improves as a striker. Out on the wing hes utter shite, non league level.
Wenger wont get the best out of him it looks like anyway.
The fact is either he should be given 10 matches or so, as a striker, lets say CC matches, FA Cup etc and if he doesnt produce, out the door now.
Ive had it upto here, about him playing as a striker, either he plays there and scores or he is sold.
For me I would sell him in the morning if we got 15m and I wouldnt care if he ended up at barca, manure or even the scum cos he isnt good enough for us