Wenger Out Banner

Red Member · Post by **Red Member** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:26 pm

Percy,

yes I know I put that.

That is why I put that they were tourists in front of me. They thought that they could buy a pint when obviously they couldn't.

Queue moved faster for me though

rodders999 · Post by **rodders999** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:30 pm

Red Member wrote:Percy,

yes I know I put that.

That is why I put that they were tourists in front of me. They thought that they could buy a pint when obviously they couldn't.

Queue moved faster for me though

you not banned yet?

RoscommonGooner · Post by **RoscommonGooner** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:37 pm

Red Member wrote:Percy,

yes I know I put that.

That is why I put that they were tourists in front of me. They thought that they could buy a pint when obviously they couldn't.

Queue moved faster for me though

armchair · Post by **armchair** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:04 pm

MM99 wrote:If you want to look credible then you have to unfurl the banner soon and keep on showing it on a regular basis.

There is no point in showing it once on the internet then putting it away once we've gone on a run of 7 or 8 or however many games we've won on the trot, only to then bring it out when we lose a game.

It looks fickle and lacks conviction. If you truly believe in your movement then you have to stand by it through both the bad times and the good.

I agree.

StuartL · Post by **StuartL** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:22 pm

Dan_85 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
JMascis666 wrote:I read the Mickey Cannon stuff, he came over as a right Super-Fan.

His basic point appeared to be that his opinion is more important than anyone elses. He should come on here and argue his points if he has so much faith in them in my opinion rather than sniping away from a fanzine.
Don't forget of course, that none of us on here attend games apparently
What did he say i havent got the Gooner yet this month

Bit late I know but the most ironic thing is that he lambasts Gooners for hiding behind false names and false profiles

So his real name is Mickey Cannon of Cannonbury and he is a cartoon character who has a cannon for a body then

I usually agree with a lot of his column but people can have a perfectly valid opinion regardless if they regularly attend matches or not - ffs David Pleat talks a load of bollocks and he's been to a few matches (and whores apparantly) over the years

RocastleRock · Post by **RocastleRock** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:42 pm

StuartL wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
JMascis666 wrote:I read the Mickey Cannon stuff, he came over as a right Super-Fan.

His basic point appeared to be that his opinion is more important than anyone elses. He should come on here and argue his points if he has so much faith in them in my opinion rather than sniping away from a fanzine.
Don't forget of course, that none of us on here attend games apparently
What did he say i havent got the Gooner yet this month

Bit late I know but the most ironic thing is that he lambasts Gooners for hiding behind false names and false profiles

So his real name is Mickey Cannon of Cannonbury and he is a cartoon character who has a cannon for a body then

I usually agree with a lot of his column but people can have a perfectly valid opinion regardless if they regularly attend matches or not - ffs David Pleat talks a load of bollocks and he's been to a few matches (and whores apparantly) over the years

Wasn't too pleased reading this and I like his column. Seem's to me alot of fans on here are regular attenders.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:59 pm

The core members who made the banner and organised the funding are almost all ST holders and go 40+ games a season... But Mickey will conveniently gloss that over. Funny name that, Mickey Cannon, I don't think I've ever met anyone called that, but it clearly can't be a pseudonym as he would never be so hypocritical as to use one of them...

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:06 pm

SWLGooner wrote:The core members who made the banner and organised the funding are almost all ST holders and go 40+ games a season... But Mickey will conveniently gloss that over. Funny name that, Mickey Cannon, I don't think I've ever met anyone called that, but it clearly can't be a pseudonym as he would never be so hypocritical as to use one of them...

Hmmm, closes I got was:-

Even he was fiction...

DUFFMAN · Post by **DUFFMAN** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:01 am

This post is aimed at all the snipers who are saying the time for this banner has come and gone. Opportunity missed???
....,,,,,

The banner has already done its job.

It was intended to show the club, the akb's and the rest of the football world that there are actually a pretty decent section of Gooners who are not satisfied with the lack of ambition and will not blindly follow a once great man who has (unfortunately) lost his touch and is now leading us into mid table obscurity.

Who's to say the current upturn in form isn't a result of the questions the media coverage of this banner has raised? Maybe it was the kick up AW's arse that he needed to knock the slippers and pipe off?

These things have to be done in stages.
If the suggestion of the banner doesn't work, then you make it, if the making of it doesn't work, then you show it, if the showing of it doesn't work, then you protest.
If we'd just jumped straight to the final step then we'd have left ourselves with nowhere left to go if it didn't get the right result.

I strongly believe the current run of form is great and ideally we won't ever need to show the banner but unfortunately it's down to the lack of ability from our opponents rather then the ability of our formally great manager.

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:24 am

DUFFMAN wrote:This post is aimed at all the snipers who are saying the time for this banner has come and gone. Opportunity missed???
....,,,,,

The banner has already done its job.

It was intended to show the club, the akb's and the rest of the football world that there are actually a pretty decent section of Gooners who are not satisfied with the lack of ambition and will not blindly follow a once great man who has (unfortunately) lost his touch and is now leading us into mid table obscurity.

Who's to say the current upturn in form isn't a result of the questions the media coverage of this banner has raised? Maybe it was the kick up AW's arse that he needed to knock the slippers and pipe off?

These things have to be done in stages.
If the suggestion of the banner doesn't work, then you make it, if the making of it doesn't work, then you show it, if the showing of it doesn't work, then you protest.
If we'd just jumped straight to the final step then we'd have left ourselves with nowhere left to go if it didn't get the right result.

I strongly believe the current run of form is great and ideally we won't ever need to show the banner but unfortunately it's down to the lack of ability from our opponents rather then the ability of our formally great manager.

I have to disagree beerbottle

, a banner was bought and paid for with the intention of showing it. You could have photoshoped a banner if the intention was just to put it out on the net. In all honesty a few people i know are convinced it is a photoshop job.

I dont buy for a second that...this was all part of the plan. It seems to me (and these are just asumptions of course) that the banner was bought with the though that numbers would back it and be part of the big unveiling....the numbers werent there, how many of those who said "yeah im behind it" actually volunteered to help? Even someone who paid for it turned his back on it. It also seems to me that as soon as the club said dont bring it in (bad move contacting the club first by the way, silly), that was it. As if you guys were worried you might be kicked out or lose your season tickets.

The real question is, why hasn't it been unveiled? Your last comment about our opposition clearly means you still back the sentiment, and all those behind the banner seem to stick to that line. Either you want him out of you dont, which is it if its...out....

why hasn't it been shown yet?

DUFFMAN · Post by **DUFFMAN** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:23 am

Why hasn't it been shown?

I think that essay I just wrote answered that?
There are some pretty fickle fans at the grove these days who, when we win a couple of games, are right back in the 'wenger is god' camp ( not mentioning any names). If this banner is going to have the impact we (I) want it to have, then timing is everything.
It was made with the intention of showing it but didn't actually need to be in the end. Showing it now will alienate all the fence sitters who could give this message the support it needs to remove wenger.

As soon as things start turning the way we all know it it, then the banner WILL be shown. Yes, you're right, the amount of people backing/offering to help didn't amount to much more than bravado but believe me, when the timing is right, I'll hold the fucker on my own if I have to.

No bottle job, just about timing.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:47 am

Excellent post mate. Sums it up. Ideal situation is obviously AW turns around, believe me I would love nothing more than to hold my hands up and say I was wrong at the end of 90 at the Hawthorns.

But my opinions and forecasts, akin to those of the other banner makers, have not changed.

We will give the team a chance to continue this great run of form but we fear it is papering over the cracks.

And as DUFFMAN says maybe the increased pressure on the manager has functioned as a much needed kick up the Arsenal. My guess is as good as yours.

arseofacrow · Post by **arseofacrow** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:54 am

DUFFMAN wrote:Who's to say the current upturn in form isn't a result of the questions the media coverage of this banner has raised? Maybe it was the kick up AW's arse that he needed to knock the slippers and pipe off?

I really don't think so.

But if the banner thing doesn't work out, a job at pravda.com beckons mate.

MadRich · Post by **MadRich** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:44 pm

Lets not get carried away in thinking the unveiling of the banner on the internet gave AW the kick up the back side he needed.

The moment has truly passed, unveiling it now will just push people on the fence (who I feel are the majority) onto the other side.

I whole heartedly wish that moment never arrives, but the time to unveil the banner will come sooner rather than later (ie when RVP gets injuried).

stg · Post by **stg** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:11 am

DUFFMAN wrote:This post is aimed at all the snipers who are saying the time for this banner has come and gone. Opportunity missed???
....,,,,,

The banner has already done its job.

It was intended to show the club, the akb's and the rest of the football world that there are actually a pretty decent section of Gooners who are not satisfied with the lack of ambition and will not blindly follow a once great man who has (unfortunately) lost his touch and is now leading us into mid table obscurity.

Who's to say the current upturn in form isn't a result of the questions the media coverage of this banner has raised? Maybe it was the kick up AW's arse that he needed to knock the slippers and pipe off?

These things have to be done in stages.
If the suggestion of the banner doesn't work, then you make it, if the making of it doesn't work, then you show it, if the showing of it doesn't work, then you protest.
If we'd just jumped straight to the final step then we'd have left ourselves with nowhere left to go if it didn't get the right result.

I strongly believe the current run of form is great and ideally we won't ever need to show the banner but unfortunately it's down to the lack of ability from our opponents rather then the ability of our formally great manager.

Excellent job with the banner , without it, the message to Wenger etc would not of been made. Perhaps now you could make a banner for the EuroZone "Euro thanks for the memory's but it's time to say goodbye" or perhaps "Mugabe thanks for the memory's but it's time to say goodbye" Im sure there are many others you could make that will help do the job!

Just a quick note I sent the pic of the banner to 33 friends who all support The Arsenal and asked who agreed with the statement it was making. Only 1 said yes, Im not saying this is an example of all Arsenal support but it was an age group from 15 to 70 and two thirds have ST's or go to the majority of home and some away game and who sit in all parts of the ground.

Also if you belive in the statement the banner shows shouldnt you still be thinking of showing it at games as the message would still be the same if we are winning, losing or drawing. Your views can not have changed because of a few wins the banner implies that you want Wenger out of the club. So the banner has not done it's job because Wenger is still there.