USMANOV

[kiwomya]

When it comes to money you must remember that we built a brand new stadium only a few years ago. City don't even fucking own theirs. Chelsea want to expand but can't and Liverpool can't afford it. We've already taken that massive hit at a time when other clubs were choosing to throw their money at players ego's.

[goonersid]

When it comes to money you must remember that we built a brand new stadium only a few years ago. City don't even fucking own theirs. Chelsea want to expand but can't and Liverpool can't afford it. We've already taken that massive hit at a time when other clubs were choosing to throw their money at players ego's.

We were sold the stadium with the promise it would alow us to compete in the transfer market, Wenger now openly admits that we can't nor indeed will.
Personally I would have preferred to shelve the stadium and throw money at players egos and win something, but heh! we have a big staudium, just a pity we don't have a team to grace it.

[kiwomya]

When it comes to money you must remember that we built a brand new stadium only a few years ago. City don't even fucking own theirs. Chelsea want to expand but can't and Liverpool can't afford it. We've already taken that massive hit at a time when other clubs were choosing to throw their money at players ego's.

We were sold the stadium with the promise it would alow us to compete in the transfer market, Wenger now openly admits that we can't nor indeed will.
Personally I would have preferred to shelve the stadium and throw money at players egos and win something, but heh! we have a big staudium, just a pity we don't have a team to grace it.

And that's a fans perspective mate. For fear of sounding like the Arsenal PR machine - the stadium is for the long term. A lot of the top sides would love to have done what we did.

[1989]

In Usmanov We Trust.

[Nos89]

When it comes to money you must remember that we built a brand new stadium only a few years ago. City don't even fucking own theirs. Chelsea want to expand but can't and Liverpool can't afford it. We've already taken that massive hit at a time when other clubs were choosing to throw their money at players ego's.

We were sold the stadium with the promise it would alow us to compete in the transfer market, Wenger now openly admits that we can't nor indeed will.
Personally I would have preferred to shelve the stadium and throw money at players egos and win something, but heh! we have a big staudium, just a pity we don't have a team to grace it.

With every other former top five club wanting to build a new stadium, it's extremely short sighted of fans who have a new stadium to say we shouldn't have done it. No doubt had we stayed at highbury the red members would be crying out for a new stadium. The stadium is not the problem, the economic downturn is the biggest factor to financially hit the club.

[rigsby]

We would have been in a betetr position had we stayed at Highbury. Arsenal went for the short term. They didn't see the way football was going or the economy as a whole.

[worthing_gooner]

When it comes to money you must remember that we built a brand new stadium only a few years ago. City don't even fucking own theirs. Chelsea want to expand but can't and Liverpool can't afford it. We've already taken that massive hit at a time when other clubs were choosing to throw their money at players ego's.

We were sold the stadium with the promise it would alow us to compete in the transfer market, Wenger now openly admits that we can't nor indeed will.
Personally I would have preferred to shelve the stadium and throw money at players egos and win something, but heh! we have a big staudium, just a pity we don't have a team to grace it.

With every other former top five club wanting to build a new stadium, it's extremely short sighted of fans who have a new stadium to say we shouldn't have done it. No doubt had we stayed at highbury the red members would be crying out for a new stadium. The stadium is not the problem, the economic downturn is the biggest factor to financially hit the club.

Yeah but these are just excuses. The economic downturn has hurt us, but with the squad we have, should we be down in 15th place? No. Why did we allow the Nasri/Cesc saga to drag out? Why did we sign Benayoun on loan? Why did we wait until the last second to sign Arteta? Last season, we spent a combined £15m on Squillaci/Kosicelny… we would have had Cahill for that. We wanted Schwartzer… granted, he wouldn’t have been an amazing signing to be fair, but we dallied and lost out.

We’ve not necessarily become shit due to lack of money, we’ve become shit through poor management at all levels of the club, spending what little we have on the wrong solutions, overpaying players and dishing out big money extensions to undeserving players, allowing a lazy atmosphere to develop by continually playing poor players like Almunia and Denilson when we all knew they were crap.

Kroenke has come in on the board, offered nothing to the fans, doesn’t attend any games, is never in the UK, offered no financial input or assistance whatsoever – the club even had to pay his £3m in legal fees FFS. And strangely this is almost the exact sum made back through the ticket price hike – self sustainable model hitting the fans in the pockets AGAIN whilst a multi-millionaire sits there offering fuck all and a rich Russian businessman who owns nearly a third of the club is prevented from seeing financial reports and refused a seat on the board.

Disruptive influence? I think the only thing Usmanov would do is oust the frauds at our club and reveal that everything we’ve been told about the club’s finances is a complete load of horse shit.

[MadRich]

That's right. Arsenal don't need billionaires....

Which explains why their two principal majority shareholders vying for control are BOTH billionaires.

If anyone contradicts themselves it's you. Self-sustainability is a paradox in terms when one considers a simple formula of financial output relative to performance and expectations. That isn't self sustainable in any academic arena, it's way off the curve!

Having the 4th largest wage bill in the country and sitting 17th in the league is not self-sustainable, it is retarded.

Arsenal 'manage their wage bill themselves' do they? I believe Man United do also. Yet you never hear them go on about 'self sustainability' do you, despite not ripping their fans off like Arsenal.

Villa, Everton, Fulham, Man United, Spuds, all manage their wage bills themselves, all of them are above Arsenal in the league and yet none of them have managers earning anywhere near what Wenger earns.

Now.

School is done for the day. Hope you enjoyed that schooling.

You and Red Member should form an alliance of some sorts, and call it the Coalition of the Willing (imbeciles)

I agree with you in that we need Usamov to come in but not because he is a great custodian, but because he is rich and we need his money now. Sustainable or not we need some ridiculously priced players donning the AFC shirt.
But I disagree with you on:
Of course only billionaires can afford to buy a club of Arsenal's stature

Self sustainability is Financial out put must match financial input. Nothing to do with performance.

Can't really compare last whole season to 7 games. Its not even a quarter of a season yet.
We did finish last season above those teams bar man u
Fucken hell, you twist facts like a lawyer

[MadRich]

We were sold the stadium with the promise it would alow us to compete in the transfer market, Wenger now openly admits that we can't nor indeed will.
Personally I would have preferred to shelve the stadium and throw money at players egos and win something, but heh! we have a big staudium, just a pity we don't have a team to grace it.

No one envisaged Chelsea and city coming in with an open chequebook to that extent.

[Babatunde]

In Usmanov We Trust.

Superb banner idea!!!!

[I Hate Hleb]

If, as seems likely, the AST and their Fan Share Scheme are not going to be able to increase their share holding in the club by anything but an insignificant amount, wouldn't it make sense for them to sell some/all of their holding to Usmanov? At least this way we should get a little more clarity as to the real position of the club.

[MadRich]

If Usamov wants to look at the books; can't these other small shareholders sell the shares to him but have an option to buy them back at a future date.

Unless they don't want him to view the books aswell

[Babatunde]

When it comes to money you must remember that we built a brand new stadium only a few years ago. City don't even fucking own theirs. Chelsea want to expand but can't and Liverpool can't afford it. We've already taken that massive hit at a time when other clubs were choosing to throw their money at players ego's.

We were sold the stadium with the promise it would alow us to compete in the transfer market, Wenger now openly admits that we can't nor indeed will.
Personally I would have preferred to shelve the stadium and throw money at players egos and win something, but heh! we have a big staudium, just a pity we don't have a team to grace it.

With every other former top five club wanting to build a new stadium, it's extremely short sighted of fans who have a new stadium to say we shouldn't have done it. No doubt had we stayed at highbury the red members would be crying out for a new stadium. The stadium is not the problem, the economic downturn is the biggest factor to financially hit the club.

Aaaaah that old chestnut!

The Economic downturn is also responsible for:

1. 4 years of Almunia
2. 6.5% price RISE. That's right. In a 'downturn'.
3. Djourou getting £55k a week
4. Denilson getting a contract extension to £55k a week during that very downturn
5. Four consecutive years of immense increasing turnover for AFC
6. Arsenal making more on property development than any other club
7. The club being valued as the 4th most valuable sporting entity in the world
8. Bendtner getting £52k a week
9. Arsenal conceding eight goals at OT
10. Wenger getting a pay-rise to £6.5 mil a year: more than Ferguson, Hiddink, Guardiola or Ancelotti.
11. Losing a Carling cup final to relegated Birmingham
12. Spending £56 million in the summer transfer market just gone and not ending up with a SINGLE quality player.
13. Wasting £13 mil on a kid from League 1 when players like Toulalan, Stekelenburg, Mata (13.5 mil buyout clause!), Jose Enrique (free), and Zapata were all available for less!
14. The increase in programme and food prices in the ground....errrr in a downturn these things don't go up in price. They go down or stabilise.
15. The club turning down a massive rights issue of over £50 million from Usmanov when they were 'struggling'. Uh huh, cos that's what you do in a downturn: turn down a free £50 million!
16. Carl fucking Jenkinson
17. Alex Thong being on £60k a week and barely being able to tackle or pass wind.
18. The manager having zero idea on how not to insult the fans and how to play a competent tactical formation.
19. Throwing a 4 goal lead at Newcastle.
20. Failing to win a CL group with CL virgins Braga, Shaktar and Partizan.
21. Chamakh being awarded £80k a week!
22. The directors coming out in public and saying tht even without CL football, Arsenal have more than enough cash to compete. (Uh huh, in a downturn you can just piss away £30 mil in tv money eh?)
23. Arsenal's wage bill going UP to over £123 million!!!!!
That would be far, far less than the Spuds and Blackburn wage bills PUT TOGETHER! And yet, we managed to lose twice and concede a combined SIX goals to both these sides....
24. Diaby being such an epic c****
25. Arsenal making history in the CL by becoming the first team ever to not register a single shot in 90 minutes
26. Failing to win any of the last 4 NLD against Spuds, despite having a wage bill over £44 million bigger than theirs!
27. Having 'defenders' who don't have the first clue on defending but earn big bucks.
28. Wenger making £41 mil from the sales of Kolo and Ade and literally doing fuck all with it. It's not even money the board had to give him, it was PROFIT! Made in the market!!!
29. Wenger knowing Vermaelen would be out for the season, sitting on piles of cash, and signing no defenders.
30. Claiming Nasri and Cesc would never be going anywhere, before being made to look the utter fuckwit spunkbubble he is barely a few days later, and hence making the whole club an international comedy house.

YAAAAAAH.

I BLAME THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN FOR ALL THAT!

[Babatunde]

We were sold the stadium with the promise it would alow us to compete in the transfer market, Wenger now openly admits that we can't nor indeed will.
Personally I would have preferred to shelve the stadium and throw money at players egos and win something, but heh! we have a big staudium, just a pity we don't have a team to grace it.

No one envisaged Chelsea and city coming in with an open chequebook to that extent.

Another MASSIVE AKB myth.

In which club did Abramovich acquire Chelski FC? It was in 2003 was it not when that went through? Prior to that he had to do due diligence on the club. EVERYONE has to do that.

The whole football world knew Abramovich was coming in yonks before because he had tried with other clubs and failed. ManYoo directors are on record as stating his intentions were known way in advance of 2003.

So you're telling me, that years before starting the stadium (which opened for the 2006 season wasn't it?)....NO ONE at Arsenal had foreseen Roman's roubles?

Ha ha ha ha ha pull the other one....
Another convenient AKB excuse....

[Jumpers For Goalposts]

Don't get too excited chaps -

Usmanov = Dein.

Dein = Wenger.

Even though it was over £12 billion at the last count, ultimately it doesn't matter how much money Alisher Usmanov has got because Wenger wouldn't spend the f**kin' stuff anyway. He'd probably use it to give Diaby, Fabianski and Almunia a pay rise.

Having said all that, I'd love to see Usmanov take over, clear the Boardroom and demand that Arsenal get back to being a team that prioritises sliverware over a non-existent dream of a better tomorrow . . . . . .