Goetze saga

worthing_gooner · Post by **worthing_gooner** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:38 pm

Goetze is a quality midfielder - the latest off the German youth players production line. He's still young but there's no doubt he'll be world class. Quick, tricky, excellent passer and great vision. Would be a great signing.

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:33 pm

augie wrote:
Jacky Wilshere wrote:
storrmin571 wrote:Â£50m according to the Daily Mail is what we are going to bid
The article actually says that Wenger will spend a large chunk of the 50 million transfer budget on Goetze,with the paper reporting that the fee is likely to be around the 20 million mark.

Bloody welsh.....if they spent less time shagging sheep they might actually be able to read the articles correctly

Couldnt be bothered to read to the end, but it sounded good!

GermanBlue · Post by **GermanBlue** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:53 pm

TeeCee wrote:Wenger's been priced out of the Hazard deal so I think he will go for Goetze, and he has to go for him in January because we won't be in the CL next season so Wenger knows any decent signings will have to be made this January, so for once, I DO expect us to make a couple of signings.

However, if we lose to Dortmund at home in the CL and end up not qualifying then guess what? We won't be signing ANY decent players, for some considerable time!!

I know he will end up somewhere else sooner or later, as Dortmund is no "big club" (compared to Real Madrid, Barca, etc...even Arsenal). But there's absolutely no way he will leave in January. The rumour that the club would have to sell if they miss the knock-out stages of the CL is utter bollocks, that money is definitely NOT in the financial calculation for the season.

Guess that Dortmund will keep him until summer 2013 at least with his contract running until 2014. Though, wouldn't be sursprised if he signed a new deal either.

Babatunde · Post by **Babatunde** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:19 pm

Mario Goetze is a top class player, with a superb mentality, costs serious money and doesn't speak any French. He will never sign for Arsenal!
Instead, expect Andre Ayew or Valbuena in January....

Agree with TeeCee though. Any serious quality signings will have to be made in Jan, because next summer Arsenal will be in the Europa League sadly...so it's Jan or bust as far as quality signings go for a loooong time!

Babatunde · Post by **Babatunde** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:43 pm

Also...with the Euros coming up and Goetze settled and playing so well, why the fuck would he leave in Jan and endanger his place???
And more to the point, once Goetze has smacked it in the Euros, he'll be worth even more money!! Dortmund would be fools to sell for peanuts in Jan...

Post by **g88ner** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:52 pm

Babatunde wrote: Agree with TeeCee though. Any serious quality signings will have to be made in Jan, because next summer Arsenal will be in the Europa League sadly...so it's Jan or bust as far as quality signings go for a loooong time!

Bit early to say that isn't it?

Our main rivals are Liverpool, Sp*rs and Newcastle.

Despite our atrocious start, we're on the same points as Liverpool

Newcastle can't last, surely? they're in a false position in my opinion, and will slip down the table by early 2012.

And Sp*rs... well, they're on the same points with 2 games in hand... they look like they might be favourites for 4th to me, but they're not amazing by any stretch, so it wouldn't be the biggest of upsets if we managed to finish ahead of them, would it?

My views remain the same... We won't be relegated, we will finish top 6 and could finish 4th at best.

Supagoon · Post by **Supagoon** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:55 pm

Liverpool bought some strange players and were banking on the theory of 'moneyball' stats. Well I predicted/hoped they would fail.

Hopefully its the start of some wretched form and calls for the return of the RAFA.

Babatunde · Post by **Babatunde** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:13 pm

G88ner I stand by what I said a while ago mate. Arsenal aren't good enough to get CL football imo and I think because of the incompetent mismanagement over summer, Wenger doesn't deserve CL football. Sorry but I think we ain't good enough, and I think it's dismissive to say Newcastle are in a "false position". Newcastle are where they are because their manager made astute signings (Tiote, Cabaye), and their players work hard and seem to be playing for the shirt. They also have a good tactical system going.
Arsenal? Not impossible we get 4th of course but part of me thinks that would be a terrible thing to happen. Missing out on the CL will take Wenger/kroenke out of their comfort zone imo. Wenger will be under the cosh if that happens mark my words.
Personally, I think it'd take an epic cock-up for Spuds to not finish 4th.

Post by **g88ner** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:43 pm

Babatunde wrote:G88ner I stand by what I said a while ago mate. Arsenal aren't good enough to get CL football imo and I think because of the incompetent mismanagement over summer, Wenger doesn't deserve CL football. Sorry but I think we ain't good enough, and I think it's dismissive to say Newcastle are in a "false position". Newcastle are where they are because their manager made astute signings (Tiote, Cabaye), and their players work hard and seem to be playing for the shirt. They also have a good tactical system going.
Arsenal? Not impossible we get 4th of course but part of me thinks that would be a terrible thing to happen. Missing out on the CL will take Wenger/kroenke out of their comfort zone imo. Wenger will be under the cosh if that happens mark my words.
Personally, I think it'd take an epic cock-up for Spuds to not finish 4th.

I understand that I'm being a bit dismissive of Newcastle, but I really do think they're in a false position. Not that they don't deserve to be there of course, but I just can't see it lasting.

It's happened before with other clubs and usually they blow their load by Christmas.

The fixture list has been kind for a start...they haven't played Citeh, ManUre, Liverpool or Chelsea yet... and when they did play Arsenal & Sp*rs, it was at St James' and they drew both. They've beaten most of the lower opposition though, so credit to Pardew and the team for a cracking unbeaten start to the season.

I just think they'll be out of the top 6 by Christmas. That's my prediction.

I'm not meaning to be disrespectful to them, but if you look at their fixture list, you'll notice it's been kind.

I'm amazed by their consistency though - I thought they'd struggle.

LOL, just saw their next 3 league games....

Man City v Newcastle
Man Utd v Newcastle
Newcastle v Chelsea

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:50 pm

Scored twice today for Dortmund I see. Would love to see this kid at Arsenal, a top talent...

littlefire · Post by **littlefire** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:07 am

Get the goat.

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:48 am

Not a chance.....and I don't know why some of you even seem to be getting excited about it.

Since the deadline is midnight on 31st January.......just over 86 days away......this is going to be a long and painful winter

!

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:50 am

PS any chance we could relegate transfer talk to the "Further Discussion" forum?

MutleyGooner · Post by **MutleyGooner** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:37 am

littlefire wrote:Get the goat.

Get the kid would be more appropriate

littlefire · Post by **littlefire** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:45 am

MutleyGooner wrote:
littlefire wrote:Get the goat.

Get the kid would be more appropriate