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Gunnersaurus wrote:What the devil have I missed?

Nothing much to be honest. Best to do what arseofacrow said and "move on"

COYG

Gunnersaurus wrote:What the devil have I missed?

Mrgnu came back and had a fisty cuff with Babutunde over who was funnier Norman Wisdom or Richard Pryor

Cockerill's chin wrote:Stereotypes are not based on socio-economic realities. They are convenient categorisations which can place millions of people from specific nationalities within a narrow set of personality traits. Sterotypes help to prejudge a person based on irrelevant criteria. They are ignorant prejudice at work.

Are you saying i'm racist for posting a Sheep Gif for my Welsh friends

anyone who can rise above all prejudices and presumptions is
a- a bigger man than me and
b- missing out on a lot of jokes

I would say there was no racism from me but I guess its a subjective concept. I've given Baba stick in colloquial Yoruba - I wouldn't imagine its the go to method of abuse of the average EDL member.

nowadays rude words of a certain kind are scandalous and verboten but actually treating people differently because of where they are from is skimmed over

I think some racial stereotyping is accurate and some is funny
but on this occasion that wasn't the direction I was going in.

I was being deliberately rude and offensive
be interested to hear whether Babatunde has thought, from our deeply fractious and abusive interactions on here, that I was racist

my guess is he would attribute many negative qualities to me, that he would joyfully list in a very creative (though strangely homosexuality obsessed) fashion
- but I doubt racism would be one of them

Rosie_titters wrote:

Gunnersaurus wrote:What the devil have I missed?

Mrgnu came back and had a fisty cuff with Babutunde over who was funnier Norman Wisdom or Richard Pryor

Oh right, I bet Babatarde tried to convince him in 1000 words that Richard Pryor was far superior.

Not racist corkbarry. Prejudice

Cockerill's chin wrote:Not racist corkbarry. Prejudice

by that rationale abuse based on somebody being Nigerian is prejudice rather than racism...?

The more you make a big deal out of racism, the more it's going to persist.

It seems counterintuitive, but when you can get to the point where racist epithets become as (un)offensive as words like "fuck" or "*word censored*" or "Spurs" only then will these lines in the sand become less deep and people can start treating each other as people and not as a "black" or an "Asian" or an "Oirish" or a "Canuck" etc.

Barriecuda wrote:The more you make a big deal out of racism, the more it's going to persist.

It seems counterintuitive, but when you can get to the point where racist epithets become as (un)offensive as words like "fuck" or "c**t" or "Spurs" only then will these lines in the sand become less deep and people can start treating each other as people and not as a "black" or an "Asian" or an "Oirish" or a "Canuck" etc.

says the man from "the great white north"

anyway Baba quick question:
would you think, on the basis of interactions between us here, that I am racist?

Are we meant to believe someone who can write so eloquently as JD didnt realise how his word would be percieved.

Can't believe some people are actually buying this guy's "reasons"

Also "Yeah, I don't believe it, but i think they is some truth to it... "

Did you know if you buy a VW polo, you'll all of a sudden notice they is a lot more polos on the road.

What else are you going to say, i'm not prejudice because my Uncle's wife's brother is married to a Nigerian

going to keep an eye on this thread and if it goes out of hand it is gone, for the record i have never come across a bad post from highburyjd before but i do feel people need to chill a bit and not got out of hand on this.

In my opinion JD if it got to abuse purely because that person was Nigerian it would be racism.

The language used is key. The way we think is shaped by culturally available discourses which are used to provide accounts of social reality. These accounts are not accurate reflections but are actively constructed meaning from everyday interactions which serve social interests. That we think Germans are efficient or Greeks are lazy is due to the psychological thesaurus we share not due to any reality.

Where prejudice behaviour crosses to racism is also constructed by available language. The fact that it is more acceptable to be prejudice about Welsh and sheepshaggers than it is Nigerian and spear throwing is not a line on the map I drew. It is shaped by complex power relations between limited cultural discourses. Am I making sense?

Arsene Wenger is the true racist in all of this.

frankbutcher wrote:Arsene Wenger is the true racist in all of this.