Commentators and pundits

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Funnily enough I never used to like Davies and Tyler (Pre-Sky) when I was younger, for some reason preferring Brian Moore and Hugh Johns. :shock: :oops: However as I got older they grew on me and I find Tyler, in particular superb, whilst appreciating Davies's style a lot more. 8) Motson is just awful :oops: while I don't think Pearce comes across as well on tv as he did on the radio. :cry:

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Have to admit i think highly of tyler, like souness as well, obviously redknapp is a *word censored*

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StuartL wrote:Davies us my favourite by far.
Now really get annoyed by Motson's inane chuckle at his own shitty attempts at jokes and he always says " and I have to say" no you fucking don't have to .
Suprized our good friend Pervert Pleat hasn't had more of a mention talks absolute bollox.
Blimey,

Can't agree more with the nod for this berk. He's obviously had his brushes with the law and seems to be on a mission to mangle every player name imaginable - Vermoolen, Bennanoon, pardon? Coupled with his boring-as-bollocks, state-the-effin-obvious 'analysis' and it's astonishing he is still in work.

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i obviously know shit about english pundits as i usually watch games on brazilian TV or on dodgy romanian or russian stream websites :lol: - exceptions are for the old Arsenal games i've downloaded and season review DVDs, but i'm surprised to see that you people don't like john motson. :oops:

since i was a young kid, i always connected his voice to world cups, great games, and much of the "football slang" i learned in english in my life was through him. not sure if he is biased to some clubs (usually listen to him on international matches) or how he is as a person, but i like his voice and his commentating :oops:

anyway, ANYTHING in the world is better than brazilian (and overall south american) commentators, with their ridiculous "GOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL" screaming, and attempts to get more attention than the game itself. this comes from the fact that radio transmitions were the most famous media in the country until not long ago, so in the radio you obviously need to transmit more emotion, since visual is not available. when TV transmitions started to get serious, they hired the guys who used to work on radio. i fucking hate it. i'm not fucking blind, you don't need to tell me that number 9 is running with the ball when you CAN FUCKING SEE IN THE FUCKING TELLY THAT THE NUMBER 9 IS RUNNING WITH THE FUCKING BALL YOU DICKSUCKING SCUMBAG :banghead: :banghead:

the less that is said, the best imo.

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Martin Tyler by far the best commentator.Cant stand Motson Tyldesley and Parry.

On the pundits Neville and Souness are in a different league not afraid to tell it like it is.Hansen Lawro and Shearer dont want to upset anyone.As for ITV why dont they just give up on football.Adrian Chiles what a :censored:

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brazilianGOONER wrote:i obviously know shit about english pundits as i usually watch games on brazilian TV or on dodgy romanian or russian stream websites :lol: - exceptions are for the old Arsenal games i've downloaded and season review DVDs, but i'm surprised to see that you people don't like john motson. :oops:

since i was a young kid, i always connected his voice to world cups, great games, and much of the "football slang" i learned in english in my life was through him. not sure if he is biased to some clubs (usually listen to him on international matches) or how he is as a person, but i like his voice and his commentating :oops:

anyway, ANYTHING in the world is better than brazilian (and overall south american) commentators, with their ridiculous "GOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL" screaming, and attempts to get more attention than the game itself. this comes from the fact that radio transmitions were the most famous media in the country until not long ago, so in the radio you obviously need to transmit more emotion, since visual is not available. when TV transmitions started to get serious, they hired the guys who used to work on radio. i fucking hate it. i'm not fucking blind, you don't need to tell me that number 9 is running with the ball when you CAN FUCKING SEE IN THE FUCKING TELLY THAT THE NUMBER 9 IS RUNNING WITH THE FUCKING BALL YOU DICKSUCKING SCUMBAG :banghead: :banghead:

the less that is said, the best imo.
BG do you know of Tim Vickery? English pundit who lives in Rio & does a lot of work for Brasillian TV, I get a lot of info on Brasil players via him on World Football on 5live over here, although he does seem to think Neymar is the second coming of Cristo Redentor. :shock:

Just wondered if that hideous "GOL, GOL, GOL, GOL GOOOOOAAAAAAAL" gets used by foreign commentators in Brasil, or if it's exclusively a Latin American thing?

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officepest wrote: BG do you know of Tim Vickery? English pundit who lives in Rio & does a lot of work for Brasillian TV, I get a lot of info on Brasil players via him on World Football on 5live over here, although he does seem to think Neymar is the second coming of Cristo Redentor. :shock:

Just wondered if that hideous "GOL, GOL, GOL, GOL GOOOOOAAAAAAAL" gets used by foreign commentators in Brasil, or if it's exclusively a Latin American thing?
yeah mate i know him, but he works for SporTV, which is the shittest sports channel in the country. they only cover brazilian football and some other random shit european leagues (dutch, portuguese, etc) and they somehow have managed to put together the worst pundits in the country, so i usually avoid that channel.

neymar isn't and probably won't be a messi or a c. ronaldo, but he's a hell of a player mate. seriously good.

and the "gooooooooool" thing is basically done by local commentators. the reason for such is the one i explained earlier - all our journalists have a very strong radio background (until not long ago radio was the #1 media for football transmition and news in the country) - and in radio you do have to explain more, talk more and be more energetic or the whole thing becomes very boring.

it's probably just me, but i'd love an option to mute the pundits and stick only to the stadium ambient sound. would be awesome to watch games in the telly.

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Sid Wadell

That guy was poetic genius...I know it's darts but Wadell brought something to it big time and his quips, lyrical license and sheer comedy is going to be missed big time

RIP Sid I will miss you :cry:

He also wrote Jossy's Giants...... :cry:

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officepest wrote:
StuartL wrote:Davies us my favourite by far.
Now really get annoyed by Motson's inane chuckle at his own shitty attempts at jokes and he always says " and I have to say" no you fucking don't have to .
Suprized our good friend Pervert Pleat hasn't had more of a mention talks absolute bollox.
Blimey,

Can't agree more with the nod for this berk. He's obviously had his brushes with the law and seems to be on a mission to mangle every player name imaginable - Vermoolen, Bennanoon, pardon? Coupled with his boring-as-bollocks, state-the-effin-obvious 'analysis' and it's astonishing he is still in work.

Did the "talks absolute bollox" not make it clear how much I rate him ?:-P

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StuartL wrote:
officepest wrote:
StuartL wrote:Davies us my favourite by far.
Now really get annoyed by Motson's inane chuckle at his own shitty attempts at jokes and he always says " and I have to say" no you fucking don't have to .
Suprized our good friend Pervert Pleat hasn't had more of a mention talks absolute bollox.
Blimey,

Can't agree more with the nod for this berk. He's obviously had his brushes with the law and seems to be on a mission to mangle every player name imaginable - Vermoolen, Bennanoon, pardon? Coupled with his boring-as-bollocks, state-the-effin-obvious 'analysis' and it's astonishing he is still in work.

Did the "talks absolute bollox" not make it clear how much I rate him ?:-P
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Tim Vickery, poor man, when he starts to talk no one else in the show even knows what the fuck is he talking about, they are oblivious of the english league and the other south american leagues.

You know, Bg, Sky lets you listen with english comments... In Denmark, there is no narrator, just the natural ambience and an eventual comment about tactics, says my danish friend.

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RioGooner wrote:Tim Vickery, poor man, when he starts to talk no one else in the show even knows what the fuck is he talking about, they are oblivious of the english league and the other south american leagues.

You know, Bg, Sky lets you listen with english comments... In Denmark, there is no narrator, just the natural ambience and an eventual comment about tactics, says my danish friend.
Is it really this bad? I'd have thought that there would be at least some knowledge considering how many Brazillians play abroad.

Very surprising considering how popular football is in Brazil.

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RioGooner wrote:You know, Bg, Sky lets you listen with english comments... In Denmark, there is no narrator, just the natural ambience and an eventual comment about tactics, says my danish friend.
hmm could be so, but with Net you only get english comments in useless american sports like basketball, baseball, that gay version of rugby they play, etc. it's a fucking pain in the arse. there are some decent chaps on ESPN like mauro cezar pereira who is almost a bit too clever for my taste, but bandsports and sportv are unbelievably bad, can't stand them.

though i have to admit that guys like muller and edmundo are so fucking stupid that it's actually funny to hear their comments :lol: roll back the days of silvio luis with lancelotti transmitting italian football in the early nineties at bandeirantes! :barscarf: :barscarf:

(by the way, it was in one of those games i finally saw Bergie for the first time (playing for inter) and that's how it all started...
RioGooner wrote:In Denmark, there is no narrator, just the natural ambience and an eventual comment about tactics, says my danish friend.
that sounds like heaven!

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