BBC Sport Price Of Football Survey 2012

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MK Gould wrote:
stg wrote:The Arsenal ST is for 26 matches not 19 so gives unclear information and a false price regarding PL prices.

Not sure what it really tells us apart from giving great headlines for the media
I was going to make the same point re-the 26 games.... That said, I still think there is an argument to say that Arsenal should reduce the number of cup games - or at least give people the choice. It would bring the price of our cheapest adult ST down to £720 which would at least mean we didn't get such a kicking in the media.

TBH I think the 26 game thing is also unfair on Family Enclosure ST holders as no-one really wants to bring their kids to midweek games during term time.
It won't be long before they add another £200 to STs for everyone to have a hot dog at every game, whether you want one or not :lol:

Ivan: "Yes, our ticket prices may be a bit higher than others but we are the only club in England to include high quality catering with our season tickets."

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The BSM have been campaigning for a Season Ticket Lite. i.e. the option for no cup tickets.

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Nonsense survey.
Our most expensive season ticket is around the five grand mark last time I checked.
What figures did this survey use!

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the most interesting thing is spurs. they have very high prices almost akin to us, offer crap product, until recently, have a shtole stadium with awful access yet always sell out. they are not that far behind us on match day income i dont believe, and if they ever get a 60,000 seater stadium they will be pissing all over us on match day revenue terms.

this aint right. why does it happen. is it that the cretinous levy is that clever at marketing, and innovative in trying to make a buck on anything and everything, or is it that spurs fans are so dumb they pay for anything regardless. (id suggest thats likely considering the crap mechandise over every small acheivement that they produce that must be lapped up, as they wouldnt make it otherwise).

i hate to say it, but if we had levy instead of ivan i think we would be a lot better off financially and no worse off on the pitch.

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I always knew we pay the most in the land but fuckin hell, I honestly had no idea just how much more we fork
out in comparison to everyone else... Thieving bastards... I think I might jump on board with BSM.

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You have seen the headlines and you have probably seen the table. Arsenal charge the highest prices blah blah blah yes we do and as has been pointed out on many blogs about it(7am gives a good write up) it is down to market forces.
Some interesting things have been pointed out many lower league clubs have or do special prices for some evening games or games that they know will draw a low crowd. These special prices have been put in the survey although they are not available for every match. The West Ham £480 season ticket is not available to everybody you have had to had a ST for 5 years and used the loyalty 20% given in 2009. The cheapest ST to normal fans is £600*.

Another thing to have a look at is the prices from last season Arsenal have lowered their cheapest match ticket by £9. Making Arsenals cheapest day out just under £10 cheaper than last season(was £44 now £34.40) Yes they raised the highest tickets by £26 but as the Chelsea & Spurs games have shown they still sell out at that price(market forces).

Lets have a look at other teams-
Chelsea last season had its cheapest ticket at £23.50 this season it's £41 making Chelsea's cheapest day out now £49.60 up from £26.50 that's £23.10 difference.
Newcastle's cheap ticket has gone up by £5 making their cheap day out go up by £6.50 in total. Their expensive tickets have risen from £37 to £70 that's an increase of £33.
Wigan have put the price of their cheapest ticket up by £5 this season to £20 this despite the fact that they regularly do not sell out the dw stadium and have an average crowd of 18,000 that's 7,000 less than the stadium can hold. Could this be seen as fleecing their loyal fan base?
A lot was made of clubs who have lowered their ticket prices Aston Villa were pointed out as a team who were doing their bit it these hard time but perhaps it has more to do with the 10,000 missing supporters who regularly did not turn up last season and does reducing your ticket prices by £1 or £2 make that much of a difference so far this season their average is only 2,000 better than last season.

Yes you can go and watch Manchester United for £30 have a cheap day out for £38.60 and pay £50 for the most expensive ticket but as a united friend of mine who now refuses to go you are stuck way up high in the stand with a poor view and no leg room. Yes the ST are cheap but they fleece the fans for CL & FA cup games(his words not mine)

I'm not saying everything is rosy at Arsenal pricing wise but perhaps a close look is needed behind the media headlines.


*sorry I have repeated the west ham fact from my previous post

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stg wrote:You have seen the headlines and you have probably seen the table. Arsenal charge the highest prices blah blah blah yes we do and as has been pointed out on many blogs about it(7am gives a good write up) it is down to market forces.
Some interesting things have been pointed out many lower league clubs have or do special prices for some evening games or games that they know will draw a low crowd. These special prices have been put in the survey although they are not available for every match. The West Ham £480 season ticket is not available to everybody you have had to had a ST for 5 years and used the loyalty 20% given in 2009. The cheapest ST to normal fans is £600*.

Another thing to have a look at is the prices from last season Arsenal have lowered their cheapest match ticket by £9. Making Arsenals cheapest day out just under £10 cheaper than last season(was £44 now £34.40) Yes they raised the highest tickets by £26 but as the Chelsea & Spurs games have shown they still sell out at that price(market forces).

Lets have a look at other teams-
Chelsea last season had its cheapest ticket at £23.50 this season it's £41 making Chelsea's cheapest day out now £49.60 up from £26.50 that's £23.10 difference.
Newcastle's cheap ticket has gone up by £5 making their cheap day out go up by £6.50 in total. Their expensive tickets have risen from £37 to £70 that's an increase of £33.
Wigan have put the price of their cheapest ticket up by £5 this season to £20 this despite the fact that they regularly do not sell out the dw stadium and have an average crowd of 18,000 that's 7,000 less than the stadium can hold. Could this be seen as fleecing their loyal fan base?
A lot was made of clubs who have lowered their ticket prices Aston Villa were pointed out as a team who were doing their bit it these hard time but perhaps it has more to do with the 10,000 missing supporters who regularly did not turn up last season and does reducing your ticket prices by £1 or £2 make that much of a difference so far this season their average is only 2,000 better than last season.

Yes you can go and watch Manchester United for £30 have a cheap day out for £38.60 and pay £50 for the most expensive ticket but as a united friend of mine who now refuses to go you are stuck way up high in the stand with a poor view and no leg room. Yes the ST are cheap but they fleece the fans for CL & FA cup games(his words not mine)

I'm not saying everything is rosy at Arsenal pricing wise but perhaps a close look is needed behind the media headlines.


*sorry I have repeated the west ham fact from my previous post


Thank you for that, Ivan. :lol: :wink: :wink:

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If you compare our cheapest ST on a pro-rata basis (£37.88 per game) we are slightly cheaper than the Scousers and the Spuds.

(985/26)*19 = £719.80

Our most expensive = £76.73 per game

(1995/26)*19 = £1457.88 - A lot less than the Spuds most expensive and a better experience all round. :barscarf:

So according to my calculations our Norf London neighbours have the most expensive ST's

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the playing mantis wrote:
the most interesting thing is spurs. they have very high prices almost akin to us, offer crap product, until recently, have a shtole stadium with awful access yet always sell out. they are not that far behind us on match day income i dont believe, and if they ever get a 60,000 seater stadium they will be pissing all over us on match day revenue terms.
Spurs are some distance behind us in terms of matchday income:
http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... 0aRCRD.htm

The link shows how woefully we are performing in commercial revenue in comparison to our other revenue streams. I know there are historical reasons for this and I hope we can bring our commercial revenue in line with other streams in 2014. As long as it results in squad investment, that is, rather than funding extortionate wages for players whose ambitions far outweigh their talent (B52, Djourou, Flappyanski etc).

Sorry for the financial link Flash. :oops:

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flash why have u posted a smilie of an angry man wanking?

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None of those prices include the booking fees which really anger me - online booking fee £1.65, telephone booking fee £1.85 (plus the cost of dialling the 0845 number), postal booking fee £1.50. And when the game goes to general sale they evn put the booking fees upto at least £2.00 per ticket! The ticketfast is a right scam - £2.00 on top of your booking fee for them to send you an email with a barcode on!

On a positive note it's good that the Cat C games are down £10 on last season, I think £25.50 (plus booking fee!) is a reasonable price and gives more people the chance to attend.

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the playing mantis wrote:flash why have u posted a smilie of an angry man wanking?



Horses for courses mate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, horses for courses. :shock:

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