ONE GEORGE GRAHAM

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In our house the 26th is known as St Micheal Thomas Day....

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GG our best manager since HC!!!!! :barscarf:

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StuartL wrote:
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:He learnt about the history of the club, and realised who he was managing when he took over in '86, and set very high standards for the players and himself . He bled Arsenal and is one of the biggest figures in our history , just a shame he couldn't help accepting the scum's rescue cry. But he was always a Gooner. Once an Arsenal man, always an Arsenal man as Terry Neil said.
What Terry ex spud manager Neill ?
he said it after he returned and won us the FA Cup.

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StuartL wrote:
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:He learnt about the history of the club, and realised who he was managing when he took over in '86, and set very high standards for the players and himself . He bled Arsenal and is one of the biggest figures in our history , just a shame he couldn't help accepting the scum's rescue cry. But he was always a Gooner. Once an Arsenal man, always an Arsenal man as Terry Neil said.
What Terry ex spud manager Neill ?
Yes - and it's also the same Terry Neill that played for us for 12 years and captained our club!! The one that got sacked for going a mere 4 years without a trophy. :oops: :oops:

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Met George a few times , first time in a Dublin hotel, he asked why I wasn't in work ? :D typical Scot. Great manager , his legend was a bit tarnished but long time repaired for me.

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GG realised my dreams as a young Gooner - first trip to Wembley, first league title etc - after years of being surrounded by little bastards claiming to be Mickeys fans.

26 May 1989 still the finest night ever and unlikely to ever be beaten (unless one day a new owner and manager decide to have a serious crack at the cup with the big ears)

Hero GG

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Can I also add that George was and still is my favourite Arsenal manager to date. 8) :barscarf:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:Can I also add that George was and still is my favourite Arsenal manager to date. 8) :barscarf:
Even more so than the Coach of the Decade? Surely some mistake.....

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SteveO 35 wrote:GG realised my dreams as a young Gooner - first trip to Wembley, first league title etc - after years of being surrounded by little bastards claiming to be Mickeys fans.

26 May 1989 still the finest night ever and unlikely to ever be beaten (unless one day a new owner and manager decide to have a serious crack at the cup with the big ears)

Hero GG

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
Wow, every bit of that applies to me too. I assume your first trip to Wembley was the 1987 Littlewoods cup final? It may have been old but I loved the Wembley with the terracing at both ends.

With Anfield 89, Graham and his team gave Arsenal supporters the greatest ever moment any English set of fans has ever (or will ever) experience. It was laughable when people were saying Aguero's goal had trumped Thomas' goal. Not even close.

Wenger's era has given us some truly fantastic moments but my absolute favourite memories are all from the Graham era. Those were exciting times. 86/87 is still the most exciting season I can remember because Arsenal winning games, going unbeaten for a long spell, being top and getting talked about in the media was all new to me. I loved those days.

And I totally agree with those who said it was Arsenal that knocked Liverpool off their perch, not Ferguson. The regret with Graham is how it turned sour. Arsenal were poised to be a dominant side throughout the 90s. What a battle that could have been during that whole decade between us and Man United.

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Whilst I loved GG, and hold him in much higher regard than Wenger. I was however glad when he went (although would have preferred it to have not been under a cloud) he had however run out of ideas and we were going backwards.

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goonersid wrote:Whilst I loved GG, and hold him in much higher regard than Wenger. I was however glad when he went (although would have preferred it to have not been under a cloud) he had however run out of ideas and we were going backwards.
Me too. Love the man (even after he diddled around with the vermin) but he had run out of ideas towards the end and had turned us from champions into a cup team. Was glad to see him go, but saddened that the club and the FA hung him out to dry when every fucking manager was taking bungs at the time. That in no way denigrates what he achieved though and I'll always love and respect him for making Arsenal great again.

May 26th 1989 will NEVER be bettered. :barscarf: 8)

Citeh's win on the last day two seasons ago doesn't even come close. SkySports arseholes. :roll: :censored:

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Loved GG and would thank him for my best times as an Arsenal fan but can NEVER forgive him for managing the scum :x

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Great achiever.
1986 - 1992 we played some scintillating football.
Davis, Rocastle and Merson were not signed by George but produced moments of magic under his leadership.

But from 1992 onwards, he packed the midfield with hardworking players who were simply not technically talented enough to win us the league but who were fit, organised and continued to win trophies for us.

I think he went at the right time, we had become also-rans in the league and were extremely dull to watch.

I think his legacy will focus on that night in 1989, a very strong team in 1991, and providing the defensive bedrock that helped Wenger win the first two of his three titles, (and in a sense a culture of defending that influenced the Invincibles defense too, who all trained with members of the Graham back five at some point in their Arsenal careers).

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Clash wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:GG realised my dreams as a young Gooner - first trip to Wembley, first league title etc - after years of being surrounded by little bastards claiming to be Mickeys fans.

26 May 1989 still the finest night ever and unlikely to ever be beaten (unless one day a new owner and manager decide to have a serious crack at the cup with the big ears)

Hero GG

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
Wow, every bit of that applies to me too. I assume your first trip to Wembley was the 1987 Littlewoods cup final? It may have been old but I loved the Wembley with the terracing at both ends.

With Anfield 89, Graham and his team gave Arsenal supporters the greatest ever moment any English set of fans has ever (or will ever) experience. It was laughable when people were saying Aguero's goal had trumped Thomas' goal. Not even close.

Wenger's era has given us some truly fantastic moments but my absolute favourite memories are all from the Graham era. Those were exciting times. 86/87 is still the most exciting season I can remember because Arsenal winning games, going unbeaten for a long spell, being top and getting talked about in the media was all new to me. I loved those days.

And I totally agree with those who said it was Arsenal that knocked Liverpool off their perch, not Ferguson. The regret with Graham is how it turned sour. Arsenal were poised to be a dominant side throughout the 90s. What a battle that could have been during that whole decade between us and Man United.
Yes mate, '87 was my first Wembley experience and I loved every fucking bit of it. I grew up supporting Arsenal in an era where going to Anfield and winning was a pipedream and where beating them at Wembley in a cup final was the stuff of dreams (was born just after the 71 double). I remember the '78-'80 cup finals but was just a small kid and they felt like isolated examples of success (well '79 anyway) in a mostly barren era. When GG's 87 and 88 teams starting going on long unbeaten runs and scoring 4 away from home etc, I can remember the excitement as it was all new to me and most Gooners

Having said all that the first 8 years of Wenger were amazing - the best football I have ever witnessed an Arsenal side play.....even better than GG's late 80s and early 90s teams

The parallels with Wenger of course is that in the latter years of their reigns both were stubborn to the bone; GG seemingly unwilling or unable to keep pace with the international influx of players and the wealth created by Sky and the PL. Wenger has never got over the new money owners, especially Chelsea, who went against everything he stood for with the 'instant win' culture they created. Unlike Ferguson who embraced both eras, GG and Wenger isolated themselves and stuck to principles that were becoming outdated whilst all around them changed. A great shame on both counts

GG never disrespected cup competitions though and would never send a bunch of squad players and kids out there to be rolled over and even when the football deteriorated I always felt we could beat a big gun against the odds. With Wenger the cups are to be sniffed at, an inconvenience in the quest for 4th place, and whilst times change I'll never forget Charlie's Wembley goals in 1987 and I hope that my kids get to experience something similar one day, rather than grow up to think finishing 4th is the be all and end all

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flash gunner wrote:Loved GG and would thank him for my best times as an Arsenal fan but can NEVER forgive him for managing the scum :x
Get over it flash you sound like the scum fans who hated him.They cant get it we love the guy even though he managed them.I dont even think of him as the Spuds manager.He was the manager of Arsenal who gave us our pride back who made players run through brick walls for him.

As Herd said earlier while Anfield was his greatest achievement but that night in Copenhagen was the greatest backs to the wall win in our history.Still our only trophy won on foreign soil.

If Wenger has a statue George should have as well.Never went 2 seasons without winning a trophy just think about that when our players and manager now celebrated 4th like a CL win

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