Protest Saturday

[xgtdec]

Im tempted to go with "too little too late" but i cant help but feel a little excited.....at long last the screw is starting to turn on le fraud......could we at long last be at the beginning of his fraudulent ass being hounded out....lets hope so!

[foxinthebox2001]

My concern is this 'time for change' protest will be spun by Wenger post match (after a cosy win) by promising transfers in the summer, providing these top quality players can be found "we are always looking, but it is not easy".
Sorry, but its just pissing in the wind, rather see another stadium of empty seats........ i'm out.

[rodders999]

I can see why some people will want to focus on Wenger but ultimately the biggest problem at the club is the increasing lack of ambition with Kroenke as the owner.

Yes lets get rid of Wenger, but that would just be a short term victory. The war will not be won until the American is deposed as well.

Agreed, but you win a war battle by battle, picking em off one by one. Seems like this protest is going after all three of Kroenke, the board and Wenger at the same time, not sure what is hoped to be the outcome of that?

But hey I'm all for this under whatever guise it takes and after the result last night it seems that everything is coming up Millhouse

[silus]

My concern is this 'time for change' protest will be spun by Wenger post match (after a cosy win) by promising transfers in the summer, providing these top quality players can be found "we are always looking, but it is not easy".
Sorry, but its just pissing in the wind, rather see another stadium of empty seats........ i'm out.

It won't be empty though..that's the problem.

[Clash]

I can see why some people will want to focus on Wenger but ultimately the biggest problem at the club is the increasing lack of ambition with Kroenke as the owner.

Yes lets get rid of Wenger, but that would just be a short term victory. The war will not be won until the American is deposed as well.

I want Kroenke out too mate but I still dont think he is a bigger problem than Wenger.

If we get a manager who can pick a balanced team, motivate them, take all the competitions seriously, use the resources available to him etc. (basically all the things Wenger isnt doing in other wrods) then I'm not sure Kroenke will be so much of a problem or a hindrance.

He is a hindrance at the moment because he isnt sacking Wenger but with the right manager a non-interested owner might not be such a bad thing. As long as he isnt holding back money when its needed for the team I'd prefer that.

The last thing we need is one of those owners who interferes and wants to pick the team. Or like what happened at Cardiff and Hull, change the shirt colours and team name.

Wenger should be top of the list. At least this time though he is on the list.

[MrT]

Echo some of the comments made here already. A watered down message will do fuck all. All their time and energy should be focused on getting that man out of the club and then redirect the anger to the board. All these fan groups know exactly what the problem is (Wenger) but for some reason are shit scared of targeting him directly.

Trying to see a positive here, I guess having thousands in the stadium protesting for maximum tv coverage will wake the board up a bit. There never really has been a wide scale Emirates protest if it comes off which I'm sceptical about. The 75 minute walkout failed miserably.

[Gunner Rob]

I can see why some people will want to focus on Wenger but ultimately the biggest problem at the club is the increasing lack of ambition with Kroenke as the owner.

Yes lets get rid of Wenger, but that would just be a short term victory. The war will not be won until the American is deposed as well.

I want Kroenke out too mate but I still dont think he is a bigger problem than Wenger.

If we get a manager who can pick a balanced team, motivate them, take all the competitions seriously, use the resources available to him etc. (basically all the things Wenger isnt doing in other wrods) then I'm not sure Kroenke will be so much of a problem or a hindrance.

He is a hindrance at the moment because he isnt sacking Wenger but with the right manager a non-interested owner might not be such a bad thing. As long as he isnt holding back money when its needed for the team I'd prefer that.

The last thing we need is one of those owners who interferes and wants to pick the team. Or like what happened at Cardiff and Hull, change the shirt colours and team name.

Wenger should be top of the list. At least this time though he is on the list.

when the Arsenal had some ambition we wouldn't still be stuck with Wenger - we would have gone for Guardiola and got him, or gone for Klopp and got him. the Arsenal board has not got a clue nowadays of how to pick a manager. the only one who has any football knowledge is Wenger and so he will pick the next one, and when he feels like it.

the next manager will be crap, we all have to face that. Wenger wont want to appoint anyone better than him. the important appointment will be the one after that. hopefully by then Kroenke will have fucked off too

[NickF]

I can see why some people will want to focus on Wenger but ultimately the biggest problem at the club is the increasing lack of ambition with Kroenke as the owner.

Yes lets get rid of Wenger, but that would just be a short term victory. The war will not be won until the American is deposed as well.

I want Kroenke out too mate but I still dont think he is a bigger problem than Wenger.

If we get a manager who can pick a balanced team, motivate them, take all the competitions seriously, use the resources available to him etc. (basically all the things Wenger isnt doing in other wrods) then I'm not sure Kroenke will be so much of a problem or a hindrance.

He is a hindrance at the moment because he isnt sacking Wenger but with the right manager a non-interested owner might not be such a bad thing. As long as he isnt holding back money when its needed for the team I'd prefer that.

The last thing we need is one of those owners who interferes and wants to pick the team. Or like what happened at Cardiff and Hull, change the shirt colours and team name.

Wenger should be top of the list. At least this time though he is on the list.

Totally agree with this.
In an ideal world, the club would be fan-owned but thanks to our "custodians" this ship has long sailed.

[Gunner Rob]

so potentially there will be (should be) thousands of banners being held up on Saturday.
to be honest if there are not then the club might as well get Wenger to sign his new 3 year contract on the pitch at half time .

but I assume that the stewards will be on the look out for these banners. do they have any rights to confiscate them as people enter the stadium?

[silus]

so potentially there will be (should be) thousands of banners being held up on Saturday.
to be honest if there are not then the club might as well get Wenger to sign his new 3 year contract on the pitch at half time .

but I assume that the stewards will be on the look out for these banners. do they have any rights to confiscate them as people enter the stadium?

I think that might be the thinking on the wording...if it was attacking wenger it could be seen as inciting violence...you know how precious these akbs are. Tbh punch ups in the ground would only give the idea that he's still backed anyway...I don't see how they can stop these ones...but they'll probably try.
You're right though...if this falls flat it's game over for us. Not going shouldn't be an option if you want change...thousands of banners is more of a statement than thousands of empty seats.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Anything that isn't directly aimed at protesting about getting Wanker out is pointless. The media can then make the point that it isn't directed specifically at him and that he still has the backing of the fans. The focus gets lost and the issue goes back to the usual: 'Arsenal fans want Wenger to spend money.' It's a wasted opportunity and as it has already been pointed out, a decent manager with this team and this season, would have walked the title. The problem is the footballs and the man responsible for that is Wanker. Having said that, it's refreshing to see Red Action not holding another Wanker love-in.

[xisstential]

Anything that isn't directly aimed at protesting about getting Wanker out is pointless. The media can then make the point that it isn't directed specifically at him and that he still has the backing of the fans. The focus gets lost and the issue goes back to the usual: 'Arsenal fans want Wenger to spend money.' It's a wasted opportunity and as it has already been pointed out, a decent manager with this team and this season, would have walked the title. The problem is the footballs and the man responsible for that is Wanker. Having said that, it's refreshing to see Red Action not holding another Wanker love-in.

Nobody can, it's gone too far now.... you cannot defend the indefensible. The problem is our fanbase, can you imagine everybody protesting in the 78th minute if we are 4-0 up??

[Ikechukwu1]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... er-and-de/

Congratulations Red Action on once again, giving Wenker an escape route. The Telegraph article even says "the message does not explicitly call for Wenger to retire at the end of the season"

Already, the message has been diluted and can easily be spun by Wenker as fan discontent against "finances" and "the club". What a pathetic copout from Red Action. Chance to make a serious statement and they bottle it, just like the team. Spineless pricks too afraid to upset their Master....until you then realise that Red Action kept Wenker in a job back in 2008 with their street parades, pocketed money from the club to insult Usmanov. BSM? Touted as hardcore revolutionaries but closer to a kids tea-party. Again, bury criticism of the manager way down the list of points. Still pandering to the AKBs. Huge opportunity missed, they deliberately gave Wenker an Out.
As such, expect Kroenke to be made scapegoat and a new 3-year deal for Wenker

[armchair]

Dickheads have hijacked my "TimeForChange" message. Way too late to the party then they're gonna dilute the message. Wankers can fuck off

[Pete on the beach]

I think the posters are a good idea, as long as the guys with the banners show up too , then we get the mass 'time for change ' posters with the ambiguous message ( but let's face it the public will know who is targeted due to recent weeks) and the ever growing band of Wenger banners at the end