Goalkeeping Situation
- flash gunner
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Think we need a new keeper but its not the first position the new manager should change. Cech is nowhere near his best but better than average and Ospina is ok as a number 2. Yeah they need to be improved but other position come first IMO
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northbank123 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:21 amProblem wasn’t letting him go, it was allowing him to become an arrogant prick who was a self-perceived legend - like most arsenal youngsters of his era.
Went from being the best young keeper around in 11/12 (better than de Gea) to another calamity off the Arsenal School of Goalkeeping Clowns conveyor belt.
Exactly, which is why I would hope that bringing him back under a stronger manager and better coaching staff, would get him back on track - surely he cant be happy to continue being a back up at juve at his age ?
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flash gunner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:29 amThink we need a new keeper but its not the first position the new manager should change. Cech is nowhere near his best but better than average and Ospina is ok as a number 2. Yeah they need to be improved but other position come first IMO
On a good day maybe flash, but tbh those days are few and far between right now.
Personally I believe that a new keeper, a new centre back and a new DM (quality players of course) are an absolute must - I dont think we can go into next season without getting ALL of those needs met, so I wouldnt prioritise one over the other
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I would bring him back and immediately install him as no1 with Cech as his back up. Juve are trying to sign Donnarumma who would definitely be a starter if the deal comes off so it's not looking too promising for Szczesny at the moment.augie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:29 amnorthbank123 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:21 amProblem wasn’t letting him go, it was allowing him to become an arrogant prick who was a self-perceived legend - like most arsenal youngsters of his era.
Went from being the best young keeper around in 11/12 (better than de Gea) to another calamity off the Arsenal School of Goalkeeping Clowns conveyor belt.
Exactly, which is why I would hope that bringing him back under a stronger manager and better coaching staff, would get him back on track - surely he cant be happy to continue being a back up at juve at his age ?
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I think you’re doing Cech a massive favour there. Very rarely will you see him pull off a great save or think what a commanding performance he’s put in, but he seems to regularly concede soft goals that many keepers wouldn’t. The two in Moscow being recent examples.flash gunner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:29 amThink we need a new keeper but its not the first position the new manager should change. Cech is nowhere near his best but better than average and Ospina is ok as a number 2. Yeah they need to be improved but other position come first IMO
Agree Ospina is fine as a number two, although people get a bit carried away with how good he actually is just because he’s not Cech. Has no presence, enormous flapper and doesn’t instil confidence in his defenders. I thought his flop for yesterday’s winner was pathetic and that he had plenty of time to make the ground.
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We have needed as decent goalkeeper since Lehman left but its now just one of several vacancies to be addressed !
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flash gunner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:29 amThink we need a new keeper but its not the first position the new manager should change. Cech is nowhere near his best but better than average and Ospina is ok as a number 2. Yeah they need to be improved but other position come first IMO
can't agree, we build from the back and neither of those two instil confidence, goalkeeper and two competent centre halves is an basic requirement from the off, we'll always bag goals but equally we'll always concede with the melts we have in key positions, one goal will win a lot of matches if can stop letting in completely avoidable goals
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I think we should try and get Pope,he would be good at crosses surely



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Bring back Bob Wilson.
Not as coach, but #1 between the posts.
a £50m transfer kitty ain't going to get us all the players we need, so ask for a few favours.
Bob is probably still a better retired pensionable keeper than anyone we had since Lehman.
May as well get Kenny Sansom too.
Not as coach, but #1 between the posts.
a £50m transfer kitty ain't going to get us all the players we need, so ask for a few favours.
Bob is probably still a better retired pensionable keeper than anyone we had since Lehman.
May as well get Kenny Sansom too.
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cant agree with this. we were all delighted that ches was flogged as he was a liability far too many times. lots of history being rewritten on here. as it seems he was maybe crap due to the manager but hes not pulled up that many trees in italy, in a defensive minded league.
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if hes all of a sudden so good why are juve signing someone else...1989 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:47 amI would bring him back and immediately install him as no1 with Cech as his back up. Juve are trying to sign Donnarumma who would definitely be a starter if the deal comes off so it's not looking too promising for Szczesny at the moment.augie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:29 amnorthbank123 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:21 amProblem wasn’t letting him go, it was allowing him to become an arrogant prick who was a self-perceived legend - like most arsenal youngsters of his era.
Went from being the best young keeper around in 11/12 (better than de Gea) to another calamity off the Arsenal School of Goalkeeping Clowns conveyor belt.
Exactly, which is why I would hope that bringing him back under a stronger manager and better coaching staff, would get him back on track - surely he cant be happy to continue being a back up at juve at his age ?
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the playing mantis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:43 pmcant agree with this. we were all delighted that ches was flogged as he was a liability far too many times. lots of history being rewritten on here. as it seems he was maybe crap due to the manager but hes not pulled up that many trees in italy, in a defensive minded league.
To be fair, he is second choice behind one of the greatest keepers the world has ever seen, so to be back up to him is no disgrace - I assume that he went there planning on being back up for a couple of years and then becoming number 1 when buffon retired, but it now looks like they are after the ac milan kid instead. Nobody is rewriting history at all, but what I am saying is that he was a keeper with real quality potential when he came up first, and maybe with a better manager and coach along with a stricter enviroment, he might have turned into the top quality keeper we thought he would - maybe that could still happen ?

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Wouldnt have to pay out for these new fangled gloves that keeper wear these days eitherThe Arsenal Way wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:30 pmBring back Bob Wilson.
Not as coach, but #1 between the posts.
a £50m transfer kitty ain't going to get us all the players we need, so ask for a few favours.
Bob is probably still a better retired pensionable keeper than anyone we had since Lehman.

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Whoa fucking whoa...Cech better than average? Absolutely no way I’m having that. He’s easily the worst keeper in the league - totally immobile, error prone, shit distribution and dodgy as fuck.
Scez being better than Cech shouldn’t be the benchmark, every keeper in the world falls into that category even Ospina whose uber shit, what we need is a proper, top quality keeper who’ll actually save us points rather than fumble them down the shitter like the two duds we already have.
Scez being better than Cech shouldn’t be the benchmark, every keeper in the world falls into that category even Ospina whose uber shit, what we need is a proper, top quality keeper who’ll actually save us points rather than fumble them down the shitter like the two duds we already have.
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Agreed 100%. A few peeps on here need to set the Wenger Agenda aside and actually re-watch some of those games he played in for us. Ffs he was useless. Looked a good "shot stopper" when he came through but ffs that is a minimum requirement for a keeper and not an indication of brilliance no matter what shit SlySports pundits tell us....the playing mantis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:43 pmcant agree with this. we were all delighted that ches was flogged as he was a liability far too many times. lots of history being rewritten on here. as it seems he was maybe crap due to the manager but hes not pulled up that many trees in italy, in a defensive minded league.

Chesney had nothing else in his game and his own arrogance determined his development far far more than any coaching he might have had or not had ffs.
The fact he can't budge an aging and past his best Buffon to the extent that Juve are trying to sign another keeper says it all. Ffs lads.


Ffs.
