Has any seen support for Wenger or Gallas?

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Tony Cascarino - Joins the numpty list.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 427839.ece

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Agreed Augie

Does anyone honestly believe if Gallas had done that "tackle" he would not be looking at a six month ban at least(if it had been Gallas probably six months inside)

What if the "tackle" had been comitted against Rooney.Would the press be sticking up for the player that fouled him

Is there any ex-player/pundit out there who is going to condemn this thug? Why are they all afraid of telling the truth.We have all seen the tackle with our own eyes.

The press keep going on about crime in Britain yet when a player goes over the top and nearly ends a career of a player it is brushed under the carpet. That wasn"t a tackle it was an assault


The press,the BBC,Sky can all stick their heads in the sand and try and cover this up.But we have all seen the pictures. you can"t hide the TRUTH from us.

Wenger spoke more truth in his post match interview than you will ever see in any British newspaper

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chunkyandy wrote:if it had happened for ronaldo they would have had a fucking minits silence, these c**ts(so called football pundits/commentators) wouldnt recognise passion if it bit them on the arse...and they called Gallas silly and said it was a protest...wankers...his mate has just had his leg shattered and we lost in the last few minits to a penalty that never was.
Not t talk about the overweight scouse brat :|

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donaldo wrote:Agreed Augie

Does anyone honestly believe if Gallas had done that "tackle" he would not be looking at a six month ban at least(if it had been Gallas probably six months inside)

What if the "tackle" had been comitted against Rooney.Would the press be sticking up for the player that fouled him

Is there any ex-player/pundit out there who is going to condemn this thug? Why are they all afraid of telling the truth.We have all seen the tackle with our own eyes.

The press keep going on about crime in Britain yet when a player goes over the top and nearly ends a career of a player it is brushed under the carpet. That wasn"t a tackle it was an assault


The press,the BBC,Sky can all stick their heads in the sand and try and cover this up.But we have all seen the pictures. you can"t hide the TRUTH from us.

Wenger spoke more truth in his post match interview than you will ever see in any British newspaper

The thing is donaldo I am not looking for the fa, the press or even Arsenal to brand taylor a thug - what I am looking for now is some sort of justice. I dont want to hear he is a nice lad or it was an accident either - it was an extremely reckless tackle, the kind of tackle that everybody in the game knows can end a players career in a second and I want to see a punishment that fits the crime. As was said on here yesterday that tackle would come under the heading of reckless endangerment in a court of law and would be dealt with accordingly. The media and the brummies are all trying to drag us into a character trial of taylor and they want us all to focus on taylor and the intent of his tackle but I believe that his character is totally irrelevent and he should be punished on the severity of the tackle and injury only and no three game ban can be classed as justice

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donaldo wrote:...............Does anyone honestly believe if Gallas had done that "tackle" he would not be looking at a six month ban at least
Could you imagine if that had been a foreign defender having done that to one of messrs Gerrard, Rooney, Lumpard, etc.? The (tabloid) Scum would have been running a petition to have them deported.

Whilst Taylor "maybe" didn't intend to maim Eduardo, make absolutely no mistake that he was 100% taking him out. All photos show the same thing, a straight leg, studs initially making contact below the knee, but more to the point, Taylor is looking exactly where he is tackling. The end result might not have been intended but he knew exactly what sort of challenge he was making.

Rant over

Paul

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Again, and I dont wish to sound patronising here, we are focusing on the "imagine if xxxx had done that tackle" which is exactly what the media want us to do. Who committed the tackle is neither here nor there cos the damage to Eduardo is exactly the same regardless of who was the offender. I understand the whole if a vinny jones type did it and it might have come down in our favour but I still believe that to follow that line of thought suits the media/fa/brum/taylor himself as it allows them to bring character into the situation instead of just looking at the tackle and the resulting injury implications

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Well said augie.

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BT wrote:Also love the way Taylor keeps being referred to as 'Tiny' in the press to make him seem as sweet as possible.
Erm, maybe it is a synonym that is used for the size that they see in the shower rooms :shock: :oops: :lol: :wink:

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khalid_red wrote:
BT wrote:Also love the way Taylor keeps being referred to as 'Tiny' in the press to make him seem as sweet as possible.
Erm, maybe it is a synonym that is used for the size that they see in the shower rooms :shock: :oops: :lol: :wink:
Aha, so that's the reason for the tackle - penis envy and a need to exert his manliness?!

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gooner paranoia there ,, im sorry but take off the gooner glass's ,, if gallas or anyone else done that tackle the punishment would be the same,, straight red-3 games
now im not trying to defend taylor or anything else but us gooners do get a bee in our bonnet about everyone out to get us :roll:
all the top clubs feel the same way,, the press hate us blah blah blah :roll:
its not one rule for them and one rule for us you know,, same rules for everyone,, look at gallas kicking nani,, if that was the other way round we would be going mad :roll:
get over it,, it was a bad tackle but ye all know he didnt mean to break his fcuking leg :x

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Cant agree rebel

Can you imagine the outcry if it had been Ronaldo or Rooney instead of Eduardo.I dont think it would be a 3 match ban.Ben Thatcher got an 8 game ban last season

As for all this Taylor bollocks that he is a nice guy and he would never set out to hurt anyone.We are now supposed to feel sorry for him.Over the last 48 hours you would think the victim was Taylor not Eduardo judging by the press coverage

You say the press hate the big clubs c"mon rebel the press,t,v and radio are so Man utd biased its untrue.Which media outlet do Arsenal get better coverage than Man Utd

Of course we are paranoid look how press and the FA have treated us over the years

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rebel gooner wrote:gooner paranoia there ,, im sorry but take off the gooner glass's ,, if gallas or anyone else done that tackle the punishment would be the same,, straight red-3 games
now im not trying to defend taylor or anything else but us gooners do get a bee in our bonnet about everyone out to get us :roll:
all the top clubs feel the same way,, the press hate us blah blah blah :roll:
its not one rule for them and one rule for us you know,, same rules for everyone,, look at gallas kicking nani,, if that was the other way round we would be going mad :roll:
get over it,, it was a bad tackle but ye all know he didnt mean to break his fcuking leg :x



It is quite possible that he didnt mean to break eduardo's leg rebel, but at the same time it was what has always been known as a leg breaking tackle so I cannot accept the excuse that it was an accident. He, and every professional footballer in the world, knows the massive risk of this kind of tackle and he ignored the risk and a 3 game ban doesnt send a warning to any player that might consider making that type of tackle in the future. Intent on a football pitch is impossible to prove or disprove but I keep coming back to the high risk of such a tackle and I really fear that the next time a neville sister or joey barton puts in a similar tackle with a similar result they will also use the no intent excuse - anarchy will follow :roll:

I didnt agree with wenger coming out saturday evening with the lifetime ban for tackle because I felt that at that time wenger's emotions were naturally running high and he hadnt had time for reflection. However the one thing that he said that I 100% agree with is that the whole "lets get in there and kick Arsenal out of their stride" ethos has played a large part in this situation. This tactic was initially patented by the above mentioned neville sisters and their manc(*****) buddies in salford and has been copyed by other thug teams up and down the country thanks in no small part to the media who have also driven that agenda along. That we have also not received the protection that every team should get from the fools that referee games now should be no surprise to Gooners everywhere but the punishment handed out here will have a huge say in how interested the fa are in protecting players livelihoods/careers and will also determine whether the kick Arsenal tactics continue.

I realise that the taylor side are going to use his previous good record and intent as a defense but I would love to get a chance to put forward a case to the fa on this matter. Will taylor get a fitting punishment ? Absolutely not :roll: In fact Gooners everywhere should prepare themselves for the minimum 3 game ban, followed by a knighthood, royal pardon, a pay rise and probably a book deal detailing the torment he suffered over this whole saga :roll: :x

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Let it be noted that on this day Tue 26th Feb 2008 I southampton Gooner did agree 100% with everthing augie said on a thread. Well said that man :shock: :shock:

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Agreed Augie,
There have not been many 'experts' sitting there saying what a horrible tackle it was have there ? They have focused on Taylor's "Did't mean it and is a nice guy" stance.

Regarding the comment "we are getting a bee in our bonnet about everyone out to get us" from Rebel (sorry Reb) I don't think we are imagining it either, if any other premiership club had this happen to their player with a bad tackle of this magnitude I am pretty sure everyone connected with the said club would be fucked off like we all are but we will not get anywhere trying to hang the *word censored* I think we need to draw a line under this, Eddy to continue with his recovery and lets win the league for the lad. :wink:

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Im worried i agree with Augie too often these days!!! Well said Augie

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